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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 09 2016 03:14 GMT
#120721
On November 09 2016 12:13 Grettin wrote:
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On November 09 2016 12:12 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:11 Nyxisto wrote:
Clinton is catching up in Michigan again. If she gets Michigan she's still in it right?


Yes, Trump is one state away from winning, he just needs to take one, any firewall state will do.


What are those firewall states, if i may ask?


Michigan, Wisconsin, Virginia, Colorado, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 03:14 GMT
#120722
On November 09 2016 12:13 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:12 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:11 Nyxisto wrote:
Clinton is catching up in Michigan again. If she gets Michigan she's still in it right?


Yes, Trump is one state away from winning, he just needs to take one, any firewall state will do.


What are those firewall states, if i may ask?


Trump needs one of Penn, Colorado, Michigan, Wisconsin, Virginia, or Minnesota... Or Nevada + NH.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46399 Posts
November 09 2016 03:14 GMT
#120723
On November 09 2016 12:12 Sent. wrote:
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On November 09 2016 12:10 BigO wrote:
Just feels abit wierd that a bunch of uneducated Americans can have such a big impact on the rest of the world. I mean, do they really have any clue what they are acctually doing?


Theyre choosing their president, they dont have to care about what the rest of the world thinks.


They don't even care about what's best for the United States and Americans, so they sure in hell won't be thinking about other places or peoples.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 03:14 GMT
#120724
On November 09 2016 12:13 zlefin wrote:
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On November 09 2016 12:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:10 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:08 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:05 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:02 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:00 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
[quote]

I guess stupid is all relative.

partially relative, partially absolute. even on an absolute scale one can make a decent case for it.
on a relative it's of course very easy to make the case for it.

this election just makes it all the easier to prove the point of course, given how well documentedly unfit clinton is.



Fixed that for you man ;D

don't be an idiot. the two are not equivalent, and your claims to the contrary merely demonstrate your inability to tell the difference.
and replacing one with the other doens't make you right, nor me wrong. it just means you're unable to actually look at issues in a decent fashion.


I'm not the one being an idiot here lol

There is a huge difference between the two and unless you're a criminal, a briber with millions at stake, or an illegal immigrant, one is objectively better than the other

yes, you are. but you are not capable of recognizing it. at any rate, all your false claims have been proven false int he past repeatedly, so there's little to be done. too much bubble.


You should strongly consider you're the one incapable of recognizing it

I haven't made any false claims to be disproven so I don't know what fantasyland you're living in

Everything I've predicted months ago is coming true and everyone is waking up out of fantasyland now upset that reality doesn't match the coolaid they've been drinking this election

i have considered it, and carefully reviewed everything; and it's simply not the case.
you have made many false claims. but like I say, you're unable to see them.
also, the koolaid claim just proves you really are not paying any attention to what i've said, so no point in talking to you, you're high on your own madness.


Alright. I'm just waiting for you to substantiate anything you're claiming here

Or you can just call me mad and false and idiotic.

Pretty sure it's blatantly obvious that you aren't considering or reviewing anything here but your own narrowminded opinion

as stated, you ignore what i've said, so not taling to you anymore; this final note only to clarify that point.


I've ignored your personal attacks, which is all you've done

You haven't substantiated anything

Good talk
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 09 2016 03:15 GMT
#120725
Michigan should be Trumpland.
Detroit has massive amount to poll out, but is only 10% for Clinton in favour.
On top, the rural counties should in total have the same amount to poll out like the big cities of that state.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
MasterCynical
Profile Joined September 2012
505 Posts
November 09 2016 03:15 GMT
#120726
Nate Iron will soon be Nate Rust! Trump2016 Incoming!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
November 09 2016 03:15 GMT
#120727
On November 09 2016 12:14 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:13 Grettin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:12 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:11 Nyxisto wrote:
Clinton is catching up in Michigan again. If she gets Michigan she's still in it right?


Yes, Trump is one state away from winning, he just needs to take one, any firewall state will do.


What are those firewall states, if i may ask?


Trump needs one of Penn, Colorado, Michigan, Wisconsin, Virginia, or Minnesota... Or Nevada + NH.


On November 09 2016 12:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:13 Grettin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:12 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:11 Nyxisto wrote:
Clinton is catching up in Michigan again. If she gets Michigan she's still in it right?


Yes, Trump is one state away from winning, he just needs to take one, any firewall state will do.


What are those firewall states, if i may ask?


Michigan, Wisconsin, Virginia, Colorado, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire


Thanks again!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
November 09 2016 03:15 GMT
#120728
On November 09 2016 12:14 Hexe wrote:
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On November 09 2016 12:13 Vin{MBL} wrote:
This is 100% the fault of the Democratic establishment. They supported such a weak candidate. Literally any other democrat would've wiped the floor with Trump.

But who? They only had 3 to begin with? I dont think Warren would have done well even if hillary wasnt a thing.



Why did we have those 3 choices? Money + support from the political + corporate establishment.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
November 09 2016 03:15 GMT
#120729
On November 09 2016 12:13 plasmidghost wrote:
Trump is also winning New Hampshire, holy shit


In how many hours will we know results on all this close states?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
November 09 2016 03:15 GMT
#120730
The democracy we all so enshrine and worship also means those from different backgrounds are given a vote for changing the country. It might be frustrating to see the "uneducated" vote, but they're a citizen of the USA and have their vision of what they want their country to be.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
November 09 2016 03:15 GMT
#120731
im up at 4am watching this insane process coming to an end and i absolutely have lost all faith in humanity.

i knew things were going down in the US in the last 2 decades. But even if she wins in the end this is the clearest proof that the good years are over for this world. The supposdely most powerful leading democracy on the planet is in huge parts going for a braindamaged insane racist that represents evrything bad in this world.

With other countries leaning right in the eu, brexit and all that crap ... im scared. im truly scared for the future of the world as we know it and humankind as a whole. we learned nothing.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4447 Posts
November 09 2016 03:15 GMT
#120732
On November 09 2016 12:13 SoSexy wrote:
The tears in this thread are already out of control lmao

Trust me, the sweetest part is the bet i made with kwizach.
Initially i said a $10 bet.
He begged me for more so i said OK $20.
Begged me again so i said OK $50.
Oh god, so glorious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
November 09 2016 03:16 GMT
#120733
On November 09 2016 11:59 Slaughter wrote:
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On November 09 2016 11:57 ggrrg wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Dems you should probably blame the DNC and their shady primary tactics for this loss and not Trump.
Sanders would have demolished Trump, it wouldn't have been close.


Agree.


Saying Sanders would have demolished Trump just says to me that Trump is actually a truly horrible candidate who only had a chance because Clinton has a huge optics problem.


I forgot. Of course, if Hillary loses it can only be due to the mysogonistic nature of the voters...
It has been debated to death why a lot of people hate her and there is absolutely no reason to discuss this here any further.

As far as Sanders is concerned, he would have probably had a better shot than her simply because he is an ideologue. It is irrelevant if the enactment of his ideas would have had a negative impact (and let's be honest most of them had no chance of ever coming into effect since they would have been blocked till eternity in the US political system). The fact of the matter is that he has deeply routed values he believes in and certain voters would have been very much inclined to vote for him. He would have been more likely to mobilize voters in key states than an opportunitic, establishment blueprint such as Hillary.

A somewhat relevant anecdote on the subject: I had the pleasure to spend a year in Vermont where I met a large variety of (very nice btw) people with completely different views. Among them were several deep red conservatives that literally did not even read the ballot when voting. They simply voted for every republican candidate. The only exeception nearly all of them did was voting for Sanders because they valued his integrity and honesty.
You can think whatever you want about his ideas, but the fact remains that he has been the most authentic and well-meaning presidential candidate the US has had in a very long time.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 09 2016 03:16 GMT
#120734
On November 09 2016 11:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This result is pretty much a classic cartoon lesson in 'Crime doesn't pay"


I don't know what the fuck you're spouting considering how many time Donald has gone bankrupt and guess what? His building in Toronto is doing just that too lmao.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
November 09 2016 03:16 GMT
#120735
On November 09 2016 12:15 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
im up at 4am watching this insane process coming to an end and i absolutely have lost all faith in humanity.

i knew things were going down in the US in the last 2 decades. But even if she wins in the end this is the clearest proof that the good years are over for this world. The supposdely most powerful leading democracy on the planet is in huge parts going for a braindamaged insane racist that represents evrything bad in this world.

With other countries leaning right in the eu, brexit and all that crap ... im scared. im truly scared for the future of the world as we know it and humankind as a whole. we learned nothing.


LOL

User was warned for this post
Dating thread on TL LUL
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 09 2016 03:16 GMT
#120736
On November 09 2016 12:13 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:11 Nyxisto wrote:
Clinton is catching up in Michigan again. If she gets Michigan she's still in it right?

Yes, if she gets WI, MI and NV she'll barely edge it out.


Keep an eye on NC too-winning that opens things up a bit for her. CNN's saying 80% of the day-of votes are counted, but a few major Dem counties are way below that-possibly enough to swing the 150K vote edge Trump currently has in the state and then some more besides.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 09 2016 03:16 GMT
#120737
I'm a little confused as to why people are talking smack about Nate Silver... he did predict there was a decent probability of an outcome like this?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 03:16 GMT
#120738
I made a couple 90-day banbets with Kwark and Godwrath

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=4255#85099
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=4256#85113

not a bet but funny honorable mentions

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=4174#83473

Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 09 2016 03:16 GMT
#120739
On November 09 2016 12:15 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
im up at 4am watching this insane process coming to an end and i absolutely have lost all faith in humanity.

i knew things were going down in the US in the last 2 decades. But even if she wins in the end this is the clearest proof that the good years are over for this world. The supposdely most powerful leading democracy on the planet is in huge parts going for a braindamaged insane racist that represents evrything bad in this world.

With other countries leaning right in the eu, brexit and all that crap ... im scared. im truly scared for the future of the world as we know it and humankind as a whole. we learned nothing.


Please, dont show all the people here German Angst.
Our media has done enough of that.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 03:17:13
November 09 2016 03:17 GMT
#120740
To all the trump supporters in this thread, we were outnumbered from the get go in this thread, but we are about to pull off something historic.
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