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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 09 2016 03:09 GMT
#120681
NYT has Trump winning but 538 has Clinton still winning. And we know now whose model was closer to reality...
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4359 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 03:10:16
November 09 2016 03:09 GMT
#120682
New Hampshire
Republican @ 4.25 8h 51m 4.25 $30.00 -


Ohio
Republican @ 1.59 8h 51m 1.59 $70.00 -

Iowa
Republican @ 2.37 8h 51m 2.37 $30.00 -

Pennsylvania
Republican @ 4.33 $30.00 -

US Presidential Election 2016
Next President
Donald Trump @ 3.00 $100

Here's my bets, posted them in this thread last week.
Only worried about PA at this stage.
Could be up for around a $500 windfall, somewhere around there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
November 09 2016 03:10 GMT
#120683
On November 09 2016 12:09 Titusmaster6 wrote:
Lmao I hope the media is happy with trump winning because they are imo the biggest reason why he achieved what he has this election cycle

They were trying to stop him but it backfired massively, really quite funny.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 09 2016 03:10 GMT
#120684
It's fucking Brexit all over again with the markets, but easily 10x worse
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 09 2016 03:10 GMT
#120685
538's model is explicitly not based on current votes, just pre-election predictions and called states.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 03:10 GMT
#120686


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
November 09 2016 03:10 GMT
#120687
On November 09 2016 12:08 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:06 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Talking head on TYT livestream still thinks Clinton will win


so everyone must think trump will win? why bother have a conversation then

NYT has Trump victory at 73%, 538 has 55%
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 03:11:12
November 09 2016 03:10 GMT
#120688
On November 09 2016 12:09 On_Slaught wrote:
NYT has Trump winning but 538 has Clinton still winning. And we know now whose model was closer to reality...


538's day-of model is purely based on called states and the time it took to call them for a candidate, it doesn't reflect reality or any vote totals
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
November 09 2016 03:10 GMT
#120689
Just feels abit wierd that a bunch of uneducated Americans can have such a big impact on the rest of the world. I mean, do they really have any clue what they are acctually doing?
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 09 2016 03:10 GMT
#120690
On November 09 2016 12:08 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:05 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:02 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:00 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:56 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
[quote]
It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/

actually, it's more like 85-90% of the us population is stupid.
trump just got a higher proportion of the stupid vote this time.


I guess stupid is all relative.

partially relative, partially absolute. even on an absolute scale one can make a decent case for it.
on a relative it's of course very easy to make the case for it.

this election just makes it all the easier to prove the point of course, given how well documentedly unfit clinton is.



Fixed that for you man ;D

don't be an idiot. the two are not equivalent, and your claims to the contrary merely demonstrate your inability to tell the difference.
and replacing one with the other doens't make you right, nor me wrong. it just means you're unable to actually look at issues in a decent fashion.


I'm not the one being an idiot here lol

There is a huge difference between the two and unless you're a criminal, a briber with millions at stake, or an illegal immigrant, one is objectively better than the other

yes, you are. but you are not capable of recognizing it. at any rate, all your false claims have been proven false int he past repeatedly, so there's little to be done. too much bubble.


You should strongly consider you're the one incapable of recognizing it

I haven't made any false claims to be disproven so I don't know what fantasyland you're living in

Everything I've predicted months ago is coming true and everyone is waking up out of fantasyland now upset that reality doesn't match the coolaid they've been drinking this election

i have considered it, and carefully reviewed everything; and it's simply not the case.
you have made many false claims. but like I say, you're unable to see them.
also, the koolaid claim just proves you really are not paying any attention to what i've said, so no point in talking to you, you're high on your own madness.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 03:11 GMT
#120691
On November 09 2016 12:10 BigO wrote:
Just feels abit wierd that a bunch of uneducated Americans can have such a big impact on the rest of the world. I mean, do they really have any clue what they are acctually doing?


Come on, don't be so ignorant.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 09 2016 03:11 GMT
#120692
On November 09 2016 12:10 BigO wrote:
Just feels abit wierd that a bunch of uneducated Americans can have such a big impact on the rest of the world. I mean, do they really have any clue what they are acctually doing?

Uneducated Americans have had a big impact on the rest of the world for the better part of the last century.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4359 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 03:11:57
November 09 2016 03:11 GMT
#120693
NYT 73% of Trump victory, from 80% Clinton when counting began.
Kitco.com (the premiere live gold chart) is down, probably from so much traffic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 09 2016 03:11 GMT
#120694
At this point I feel like the rest of the world just has to hope that the USA doesn't drag us down with them.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 09 2016 03:11 GMT
#120695
Clinton is catching up in Michigan again. If she gets Michigan she's still in it right?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45082 Posts
November 09 2016 03:11 GMT
#120696
On November 09 2016 12:10 BigO wrote:
Just feels abit wierd that a bunch of uneducated Americans can have such a big impact on the rest of the world. I mean, do they really have any clue what they are acctually doing?


They don't, and it's really, really embarrassing.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 09 2016 03:11 GMT
#120697
If I was Hillary, I'd be extremely concerned about Wisconsin, 45% of Milwaukee reporting, Green Bay going massively red, and still a ton of rural areas to start reporting
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 09 2016 03:12 GMT
#120698
On November 09 2016 12:10 BigO wrote:
Just feels abit wierd that a bunch of uneducated Americans can have such a big impact on the rest of the world. I mean, do they really have any clue what they are acctually doing?

no, most people don't.
that's why I said most are idiots.
most people have a poor and limited understanding of the world, geopolitics, management, ethics, justice, law, sociology, criminology.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 03:12 GMT
#120699
On November 09 2016 12:11 Nyxisto wrote:
Clinton is catching up in Michigan again. If she gets Michigan she's still in it right?


Yes, Trump is one state away from winning, he just needs to take one, any firewall state will do.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9251 Posts
November 09 2016 03:12 GMT
#120700
On November 09 2016 12:10 BigO wrote:
Just feels abit wierd that a bunch of uneducated Americans can have such a big impact on the rest of the world. I mean, do they really have any clue what they are acctually doing?


Theyre choosing their president, they dont have to care about what the rest of the world thinks.
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