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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 09 2016 03:05 GMT
#120661
On November 09 2016 12:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:02 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:00 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:56 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:46 hunts wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:36 Clonester wrote:
Trump is doing it. He is changing the game.
Against all the odds.


No all trump is doing is showing that there are many uneducated bigoted idiots out there who are allowed to vote, and that republicans did a good job of voter suppression in key states.

It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/

actually, it's more like 85-90% of the us population is stupid.
trump just got a higher proportion of the stupid vote this time.


I guess stupid is all relative.

partially relative, partially absolute. even on an absolute scale one can make a decent case for it.
on a relative it's of course very easy to make the case for it.

this election just makes it all the easier to prove the point of course, given how well documentedly unfit clinton is.



Fixed that for you man ;D

don't be an idiot. the two are not equivalent, and your claims to the contrary merely demonstrate your inability to tell the difference.
and replacing one with the other doens't make you right, nor me wrong. it just means you're unable to actually look at issues in a decent fashion.


I'm not the one being an idiot here lol

There is a huge difference between the two and unless you're a criminal, a briber with millions at stake, or an illegal immigrant, one is objectively better than the other


As if there was the slightest objectivity involved in this election.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 09 2016 03:05 GMT
#120662
--- Nuked ---
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 09 2016 03:05 GMT
#120663
On November 09 2016 12:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:02 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:00 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:56 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:46 hunts wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:36 Clonester wrote:
Trump is doing it. He is changing the game.
Against all the odds.


No all trump is doing is showing that there are many uneducated bigoted idiots out there who are allowed to vote, and that republicans did a good job of voter suppression in key states.

It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/

actually, it's more like 85-90% of the us population is stupid.
trump just got a higher proportion of the stupid vote this time.


I guess stupid is all relative.

partially relative, partially absolute. even on an absolute scale one can make a decent case for it.
on a relative it's of course very easy to make the case for it.

this election just makes it all the easier to prove the point of course, given how well documentedly unfit clinton is.



Fixed that for you man ;D

don't be an idiot. the two are not equivalent, and your claims to the contrary merely demonstrate your inability to tell the difference.
and replacing one with the other doens't make you right, nor me wrong. it just means you're unable to actually look at issues in a decent fashion.


I'm not the one being an idiot here lol

There is a huge difference between the two and unless you're a criminal, a briber with millions at stake, or an illegal immigrant, one is objectively better than the other

yes, you are. but you are not capable of recognizing it. at any rate, all your false claims have been proven false int he past repeatedly, so there's little to be done. too much bubble.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 03:06:39
November 09 2016 03:06 GMT
#120664
On November 09 2016 12:03 Clonester wrote:
Virgina is Clintoland, thats save now.

N.C. is extremly likely to be won by Trump.

Now it is Michigan, whoever wins here... and freaking Wisconson.

I can see Michigan going back looking at what's still left out there... Wisconsin looking a bit more scary for me
Though most people, like posts on 538 livefeed, seem to suggest Michigan is the more critical one
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 03:06:49
November 09 2016 03:06 GMT
#120665
On November 09 2016 12:05 plasmidghost wrote:
A ton of Wisconsin hasn't even reported yet, I wonder how that's gonna play out


Anyone who can guess Wisconsin or Michigan based on what I'm seeing on CNN's results is a fucking wizard
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4416 Posts
November 09 2016 03:06 GMT
#120666
Talking head on TYT livestream still thinks Clinton will win
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 03:07:01
November 09 2016 03:06 GMT
#120667
On November 09 2016 12:05 plasmidghost wrote:
A ton of Wisconsin hasn't even reported yet, I wonder how that's gonna play out

I think he has issues with the classic conservatives in Wisconsin due to his attacks on Ryan. His strength seems to be predicated on getting blue collar whites to the polls, so the map is gonna be wonky.
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
November 09 2016 03:07 GMT
#120668
Interesting to see how the numbers do sometimes vary from district to district within a state
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 09 2016 03:07 GMT
#120669
NYTimes just crushed the 70% mark for Trump, with 269 (thanks house) to over 280 electorials, but clinton being at +2 in popular.

I still think Trump can even out the popular vote.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 03:09:26
November 09 2016 03:07 GMT
#120670
On November 09 2016 12:02 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I might be stupid, so I dunno, but I've made my arguments here very clear many times about why I think Hillary is an awful person and why she shouldn't be president. So while you might think that Trump is unfit, I think than Hillary is unfit, so there we are.

I agree Hillary is an awful person. I think both are unfit to be president. I just think Trump's inexperience and a tendency for irrational outbursts is more disqualifying than Clinton being awful and corrupt.

But we've had this discussion before so I guess it's not really worth carrying forward. We're both aware of the candidates' flaws, we just disagree on how important they are, and that's really hard to argue definitively.
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 09 2016 03:07 GMT
#120671
--- Nuked ---
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 03:08 GMT
#120672
By land area, Trump wins like 95% of the US.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
November 09 2016 03:08 GMT
#120673
How much left to count in Florida?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 03:08 GMT
#120674
On November 09 2016 12:05 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:02 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:00 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:56 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:46 hunts wrote:
[quote]

No all trump is doing is showing that there are many uneducated bigoted idiots out there who are allowed to vote, and that republicans did a good job of voter suppression in key states.

It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/

actually, it's more like 85-90% of the us population is stupid.
trump just got a higher proportion of the stupid vote this time.


I guess stupid is all relative.

partially relative, partially absolute. even on an absolute scale one can make a decent case for it.
on a relative it's of course very easy to make the case for it.

this election just makes it all the easier to prove the point of course, given how well documentedly unfit clinton is.



Fixed that for you man ;D

don't be an idiot. the two are not equivalent, and your claims to the contrary merely demonstrate your inability to tell the difference.
and replacing one with the other doens't make you right, nor me wrong. it just means you're unable to actually look at issues in a decent fashion.


I'm not the one being an idiot here lol

There is a huge difference between the two and unless you're a criminal, a briber with millions at stake, or an illegal immigrant, one is objectively better than the other

yes, you are. but you are not capable of recognizing it. at any rate, all your false claims have been proven false int he past repeatedly, so there's little to be done. too much bubble.


You should strongly consider you're the one incapable of recognizing it

I haven't made any false claims to be disproven so I don't know what fantasyland you're living in

Everything I've predicted months ago is coming true and everyone is waking up out of fantasyland now upset that reality doesn't match the coolaid they've been drinking this election
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 03:08 GMT
#120675
On November 09 2016 12:08 Grettin wrote:
How much left to count in Florida?


1%
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 09 2016 03:08 GMT
#120676
On November 09 2016 12:06 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Talking head on TYT livestream still thinks Clinton will win


so everyone must think trump will win? why bother have a conversation then
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 03:08 GMT
#120677
Florida has gone to Trump it's over.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
November 09 2016 03:09 GMT
#120678
Lmao I hope the media is happy with trump winning because they are imo the biggest reason why he achieved what he has this election cycle
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9299 Posts
November 09 2016 03:09 GMT
#120679
On November 09 2016 12:08 Grettin wrote:
How much left to count in Florida?


1% according to the guardian
You're now breathing manually
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
November 09 2016 03:09 GMT
#120680
Thanks guys.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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