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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 02:57 GMT
#120621
Eh, Silver will be somewhat vindicated, but he's going to have a lot of shit on him from this whole election.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 02:57 GMT
#120622
On November 09 2016 11:56 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:46 hunts wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:36 Clonester wrote:
Trump is doing it. He is changing the game.
Against all the odds.


No all trump is doing is showing that there are many uneducated bigoted idiots out there who are allowed to vote, and that republicans did a good job of voter suppression in key states.

It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/

actually, it's more like 85-90% of the us population is stupid.
trump just got a higher proportion of the stupid vote this time.


I guess stupid is all relative.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 09 2016 02:57 GMT
#120623
On November 09 2016 11:56 plasmidghost wrote:
Okay, NYTimes just flipped over


But NYTimes is also at 62% Trump overall.
NYTimes saw Virginia at 95% Clinton all along.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 02:57 GMT
#120624
Hillary takes lead in VI with 92% (by 6k votes).
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4359 Posts
November 09 2016 02:57 GMT
#120625
Clinton winning VA is irrelevant if she can't even win Wisconsin.
Seriously Wisconsin wasn't meant to be in play guys!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 09 2016 02:57 GMT
#120626
On November 09 2016 11:57 Xialos wrote:
Ye but is it not going to swing back in favor of Clinton once california's results comes in?

Not how it works.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
November 09 2016 02:57 GMT
#120627
On November 09 2016 11:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Dems you should probably blame the DNC and their shady primary tactics for this loss and not Trump.
Sanders would have demolished Trump, it wouldn't have been close.


Agree.

User was warned for this post
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
November 09 2016 02:58 GMT
#120628
On November 09 2016 11:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I have a feeling there will be a lot of brexit like 'but I only voted for Trump as a protest, I didn't want him to become actual president, can we redo the vote?' stories this week

Except that's not going to happen because the "protest" vote is 3rd party.

The Brexit referendum only had 2 options so the only protest option was Leave. Presidential elections have more than 2 options so someone protesting Hillary Clinton doesn't have to vote Trump.


I don't think applying the typical protest vote explanation works here. It's definitely a "who do i hate more" / lesser of 2 evils vote. In this kind of mindset, you have to vote for the person you think will have the most chance to upset the candidate you hate. People who might have voted 3rd party or not at all are showing up to vote against the candidate they hate by casting a vote for the other candidate who actually has a shot to win.

But who knows.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 02:58 GMT
#120629
This result is pretty much a classic cartoon lesson in 'Crime doesn't pay"
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 09 2016 02:58 GMT
#120630
So the biggest question for me know.
Will Donald win the popular vote?
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
November 09 2016 02:59 GMT
#120631
My heart can't handle this. I'm gonna turn all this stuff off, disable my wifi and watch an F1 race, and then check the results tomorrow.

"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 09 2016 02:59 GMT
#120632
On November 09 2016 11:57 Xialos wrote:
Ye but is it not going to swing back in favor of Clinton once california's results comes in?


California's a given for Clinton. It probably will swing the popular vote, but that doesn't matter.
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
November 09 2016 02:59 GMT
#120633
On November 09 2016 11:57 Xialos wrote:
Ye but is it not going to swing back in favor of Clinton once california's results comes in?

California's numbers are baked in.
EG - ROOT - Gambit Gaming
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23489 Posts
November 09 2016 02:59 GMT
#120634
All the stink about Jill Stein and it's Evan McMullen and Gary Johnson saving Hillary's hide atm in Virginia...
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 09 2016 02:59 GMT
#120635
On November 09 2016 11:57 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Dems you should probably blame the DNC and their shady primary tactics for this loss and not Trump.
Sanders would have demolished Trump, it wouldn't have been close.


Agree.


Saying Sanders would have demolished Trump just says to me that Trump is actually a truly horrible candidate who only had a chance because Clinton has a huge optics problem.
Never Knows Best.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
November 09 2016 02:59 GMT
#120636
I believe Clinton has secured Virginia.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45088 Posts
November 09 2016 03:00 GMT
#120637
On November 09 2016 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Hillary takes lead in VI with 92% (by 6k votes).


What is VI? You mean VA?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 09 2016 03:00 GMT
#120638
On November 09 2016 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:56 zlefin wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:46 hunts wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:36 Clonester wrote:
Trump is doing it. He is changing the game.
Against all the odds.


No all trump is doing is showing that there are many uneducated bigoted idiots out there who are allowed to vote, and that republicans did a good job of voter suppression in key states.

It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/

actually, it's more like 85-90% of the us population is stupid.
trump just got a higher proportion of the stupid vote this time.


I guess stupid is all relative.

partially relative, partially absolute. even on an absolute scale one can make a decent case for it.
on a relative it's of course very easy to make the case for it.

this election just makes it all the easier to prove the point of course, given how well documentedly unfit trump is.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 03:00 GMT
#120639
On November 09 2016 12:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Hillary takes lead in VI with 92% (by 6k votes).


What is VI? You mean VA?


Opps
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45088 Posts
November 09 2016 03:00 GMT
#120640
On November 09 2016 12:00 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Hillary takes lead in VI with 92% (by 6k votes).


What is VI? You mean VA?


Opps


No worries, I just wasn't sure
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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