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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 02:54 GMT
#120601
On November 09 2016 11:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:46 hunts wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:36 Clonester wrote:
Trump is doing it. He is changing the game.
Against all the odds.


No all trump is doing is showing that there are many uneducated bigoted idiots out there who are allowed to vote, and that republicans did a good job of voter suppression in key states.

It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/


Sounds like a pretty good argument.


Imo when people use the argument that everyone is stupid, they need to look and consider more closely why people think the way they do. We've had many successful people from both sides, it's not like inherently one side knows things and the other doesn't. We're all born the same.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 09 2016 02:55 GMT
#120602
On November 09 2016 11:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I have a feeling there will be a lot of brexit like 'but I only voted for Trump as a protest, I didn't want him to become actual president, can we redo the vote?' stories this week

Except that's not going to happen because the "protest" vote is 3rd party.

The Brexit referendum only had 2 options so the only protest option was Leave. Presidential elections have more than 2 options so someone protesting Hillary Clinton doesn't have to vote Trump.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 09 2016 02:55 GMT
#120603
doesn't matter what sanders supporters say, theirs is still bad politics and bad policy.

without the fractured media environment the establishment would be holding much better. it's guerrilla warfare vs regular army.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23238 Posts
November 09 2016 02:55 GMT
#120604
On November 09 2016 11:54 acker wrote:
I wonder how Nate Silver is feeling right now.


Better than the guys he was arguing with earlier this week?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 09 2016 02:55 GMT
#120605
Umm... New York Times has Trump ahead by 14k in Virginia with 90% reporting compared to CNN's 82%
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 02:55 GMT
#120606
On November 09 2016 11:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:46 hunts wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:36 Clonester wrote:
Trump is doing it. He is changing the game.
Against all the odds.


No all trump is doing is showing that there are many uneducated bigoted idiots out there who are allowed to vote, and that republicans did a good job of voter suppression in key states.

It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/


Sounds like a pretty good argument.


Smart people are the reason he won
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 09 2016 02:55 GMT
#120607
On November 09 2016 11:55 oneofthem wrote:
doesn't matter what sanders supporters say, theirs is still bad politics and bad policy.

without the fractured media environment the establishment would be holding much better. it's guerrilla warfare vs regular army.

Doesn't matter how good your policy is if you never get the chance to implement it.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44362 Posts
November 09 2016 02:55 GMT
#120608
On November 09 2016 11:54 acker wrote:
I wonder how Nate Silver is feeling right now.


He had a much more conservative prediction about Hillary's win than most news networks, right? He was criticized for not throwing in with the 80-90% probability?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120609
Yeah. But on the other hand, Trump.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120610
On November 09 2016 11:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm so proud of America right now for being smart

Lol at all the people flaming Trump/Trump supporters/america

Mods just giving up on this thread right now?


Based off his own history? They're both -_-;; George W. Bush made a lot of people sweat too. The point is you vote for the lesser evil.

Vote for who you want man. Let the chaos ensue.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7105 Posts
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120611
On November 09 2016 11:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:46 hunts wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:36 Clonester wrote:
Trump is doing it. He is changing the game.
Against all the odds.


No all trump is doing is showing that there are many uneducated bigoted idiots out there who are allowed to vote, and that republicans did a good job of voter suppression in key states.

It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/


Sounds like a pretty good argument.


Smart people are the reason he won

LOL
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120612
Okay, NYTimes just flipped over
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120613
On November 09 2016 11:55 plasmidghost wrote:
Umm... New York Times has Trump ahead by 14k in Virginia with 90% reporting compared to CNN's 82%


Cause NYT using more updated data. Check here
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 02:57:08
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120614
On November 09 2016 11:55 plasmidghost wrote:
Umm... New York Times has Trump ahead by 14k in Virginia with 90% reporting compared to CNN's 82%


NYT is total vote %

CNN is day-of vote %

I think this has already come up.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4333 Posts
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120615
On November 09 2016 11:54 acker wrote:
I wonder how Nate Silver is feeling right now.

Probably feeling more like Nate Bronze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120616
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:46 hunts wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:36 Clonester wrote:
Trump is doing it. He is changing the game.
Against all the odds.


No all trump is doing is showing that there are many uneducated bigoted idiots out there who are allowed to vote, and that republicans did a good job of voter suppression in key states.

It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/

actually, it's more like 85-90% of the us population is stupid.
trump just got a higher proportion of the stupid vote this time.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120617
Shit. All my poker money is in $. Rip my winnings?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120618
On November 09 2016 11:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:51 Dismay wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:46 hunts wrote:
On November 09 2016 11:36 Clonester wrote:
Trump is doing it. He is changing the game.
Against all the odds.


No all trump is doing is showing that there are many uneducated bigoted idiots out there who are allowed to vote, and that republicans did a good job of voter suppression in key states.

It's important to understand why Trump is doing well, and it's not just uneducated racism. There's a pretty big rural vs urban dynamic at play here.


The standard Hillary lost because 50% of the US population is stupid argument, standard. =/


Sounds like a pretty good argument.


Smart people are the reason he won


Amen.

The number of blind liberals that make me angry vs blind conservatives that make me angry doesn't even compare.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 02:56 GMT
#120619
On November 09 2016 11:54 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 11:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm so proud of America right now for being smart

This sentence might be the dumbest ive read tonight. And that's saying something.


Quality content post. I know you're upset but 'ur dumb' isn't really doing much for your cause

User was warned for this post
Xialos
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada508 Posts
November 09 2016 02:57 GMT
#120620
Ye but is it not going to swing back in favor of Clinton once california's results comes in?
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