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In Washington state, for example, it’s technically illegal for an elector to break his pledge to his party, although the ramifications are minimal and no elector has ever been prosecuted. If Satiacum and Chiafalo follow through on their threats to break their party pledge, they could be slapped with fines of around $1,000. In Georgia and Texas, where there are no laws governing electors, Vu and Suprun would face no consequences.

But that doesn’t mean their votes will necessarily stand. If any faithless elector ends up swaying the outcome of the election, federal lawmakers have a couple of avenues of recourse, both of which are baked into the U.S. Constitution.

The first applies if an elector abstains or flips his vote in such a way that it results in an Electoral College tie. In such a case, then a little known provision buried in the Twelfth Amendment mandates that the House decides the president, while the Senate chooses the vice president. Each state delegation in the House casts one vote for president, and whichever candidates get the simple majority wins.

The second constitutional check is more broad. On January 6, 2017, the newly elected Congress will meet to determine if the Electoral College vote was “regularly given.” For most of the country’s 57 past presidential elections, this vote has been ceremonial. But it doesn’t have to be. If just one House member and one senator objects to the way that the Electoral College vote played out—for example, if a faithless elector swings the final tally—then the new members can retreat to chambers to vote on what to do about it. If the House and Senate agree, their decision is final. If the House or the Senate do not agree, then the dispute goes to the “executive of the state,” meaning the state’s Secretary of State, who would make the final call.

In other words, if Satiacum, Chiafalo, Vu, or Suprun cast a vote that ultimately alters the course of the election, and anyone in the newly-elected House or Senate balks, then the decision, in all likelihood, will be delegated to Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp, or Texas Secretary of State Carlos Cascos. And while it’s impossible to say what, exactly, those state chiefs would choose, they would be under extraordinary pressure to honor the voters’ will.

On November 09 2016 12:15 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
im up at 4am watching this insane process coming to an end and i absolutely have lost all faith in humanity.

i knew things were going down in the US in the last 2 decades. But even if she wins in the end this is the clearest proof that the good years are over for this world. The supposdely most powerful leading democracy on the planet is in huge parts going for a braindamaged insane racist that represents evrything bad in this world.

With other countries leaning right in the eu, brexit and all that crap ... im scared. im truly scared for the future of the world as we know it and humankind as a whole. we learned nothing.

On November 09 2016 12:16 StarStruck wrote:


I don't know what the fuck you're spouting considering how many time Donald has gone bankrupt and guess what? His building in Toronto is doing just that too lmao.

On November 09 2016 12:16 SoSexy wrote:


LOL

On November 09 2016 12:17 Sermokala wrote:

Jesus calm down. things are the best they've ever been full stop. if trump is as bad as everyone is thinking then he won't get more then 4 years let alone 2 strong ones with a house on his side.

You can think whatever you want about his ideas, but the fact remains that he has been the most authentic and well-meaning presidential candidate the US has had in a very long time.

On November 09 2016 12:18 Toadesstern wrote:
If clinton gets back WI+MI, loses NH, loses NV, wins all of Maine:


höhöhö

On November 09 2016 12:17 biology]major wrote:
To all the trump supporters in this thread, we were outnumbered from the get go in this thread, but we are about to pull off something historic.

On November 09 2016 12:19 FiWiFaKi wrote:


Agreed.

Lets not start gloating just yet though, Hillary has a very large probability to win if she hold Wisconsin, Michigan, and Colorado. I expect all of these to end within 1-2%.

On November 09 2016 12:19 Doraemon wrote:
what is the actual appeal of trump? he keeps saying MAGA but i've never seen once how he will do it