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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 20 2016 09:06 LegalLord wrote: Sounds like someone who prefers to avoid leaving a paper trail. I'd do the same. I'm like 60/40 she just doesn't want a paper trail vs her emails humanize her and make her seem very normal, which is not the image wikileaks is trying to paint. | ||
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Introvert
United States4753 Posts
On October 20 2016 07:04 Sermokala wrote: Mcmullin Real american hero? Somehow Hillary collapses in the final strech and fails to get 270 electoral votes, trump doing the same without Utah. lack of 270 Electoral votes means the top 3 presidential canidates names get sent to the house and the top two vice presidents go to the sentate. There are enough republican canidates that will refuse to vote for trump and there isn't enough democrats to vote for hillary for a majority and a win, the vote then goes to the senate where pence wins automatically. So the only way for the democrats to prevent republican presidency for the next four years is to make a deal with mcmullin. Mcmullin saves the nation. Also aparently Jill stein has the same poll numbers in texas as Harambe. I find this hilarious and fun. These are the Republicans we are talking about here, the whole lot will go for Trump even if they find him unbearable and/or unfit. They don't have the spine. Would be a nice final touch to 2016. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
The year of our lord, 2016. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
On October 20 2016 09:02 Kickstart wrote: Just saw MSNBC advertise the debate as 'the final showdown' and then had cuts of them back and forth bashing the other. Amused/annoyed that they have turned it into some hyped up sports event or something. Think that says something about the current state of our politics. It's almost as funny as it's sad at this point. This debate will probably be more toxic than a puffer fish pizza. I've got this image in my head of tonights debate : 2 monkeys throwing feces at each other for 90 minutes. A pretty accurate picture imho... because they both stink! | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On October 20 2016 08:47 Plansix wrote: http://www.wsj.com/articles/missing-from-hacked-emails-clinton-herself-1476662725?mod=e2fb I am surprised none of us picked this up. It is sort of weird that all the emails that are dumped, almost none of them are from her. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 In the days after she was sworn in, Hillary Clinton also contacted her predecessor, Colin Powell, to ask how he had managed his information flow as secretary of state from 2001 to 2005. In his early weeks, Powell recalled, he’d “received several security briefings that restricted his ability to communicate.” He’d questioned the NSA and CIA on “why PDAs were anymore of a risk than the television remote controls.” He never got a convincing answer. And so, he advised Hillary Clinton “to resist restrictions that would inhibit her ability to communicate.” But he told her to choose wisely and not to create an unnecessary paper trail. He said if it became “public” that Clinton had a BlackBerry and she used it to “do business,” her emails could become “official record[s] and subject to the law.” As Powell said: “Be very careful. I got around it all by not saying much and not using systems that captured the data.” It was all advice Clinton was probably predisposed to take—in part because she eschewed technology herself. According to Cooper, “Clinton [as senator] usually carried a flip phone along with her BlackBerry because it was more comfortable for communications and Clinton was able to use her BlackBerry while talking on the flip phone.” But at State, she gave up the flip phone, conducting most discussions in person, reading most documents in printed hard copy, or using one of the three phones in her Mahogany Row office: A black phone, capable of making secure and unsecure calls, a yellow one used only for secure conversations, and a dedicated white phone for direct calls to certain government officials. She never had a computer or fax machine in her office. It's both her being cautious about leaving paper trails and her not liking technology. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13931 Posts
On October 20 2016 09:14 Introvert wrote: These are the Republicans we are talking about here, the whole lot will go for Trump even if they find him unbearable and/or unfit. They don't have the spine. Would be a nice final touch to 2016. I'd say it would take more spine to vote with the party on every vote then not. But The candidates who come from anywhere near close states or elections would have to not vote for trump or they'd lose. You can't shake off trump once you've publicly voted for him. You'll be living with that 30% favor-ability person you supported for president. While if they also don't vote for trump it could go to mcmulin or even better pence. Pence is the ideal candidate for GOP establishment president. If anything voteing for pence is voteing for the gop. | ||
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Wolfstan
Canada605 Posts
On October 20 2016 05:31 LegalLord wrote: Given all the criticisms you could levy against Trump, flip-flopping on globalization seems almost irrelevant in comparison. That's why politicians seem to throw so much shit at the wall hoping it sticks. Every voter has their own individual core values and its their job to find every voters breaking point when doing attack ads. Personally for me, charges of -isms are largely ineffective, but as a policy/ideas voter those attacks do a much better job swaying my opinion than attacks based on identity politics. "Mexicans are rapists" - don't give a shit "Grab her by the pussy" - nope Have sexual relations with an intern - don't care as long as he did a good job "Why can't we use nukes?" - I can't vote for that guy Can we get details? - Trump has had a year to give details, he comes across as too clueless to be head of the executive branch Bernie Sanders NY daily news interview end my support of him, These flip-flopping criticisms are for voters that have different concerns than you. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Plus, he probably didn't actually write that letter, and just like the immigration policy on his website he didn't write his supporters don't believe he's accountable for it at all. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On October 20 2016 09:16 Blisse wrote: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 It's both her being cautious about leaving paper trails and her not liking technology. Powell's advice is something practiced in all levels of life. You want something binding, make them write it down. You don't want to be held accountable? Don't write it down. For example: until your friend texts/emails/messages you that they're coming, assume they aren't. And if you aren't sure if you're coming, make sure to mention it in passing that you're coming but never respond back with an affirmative. Another example: "I could email the plan, or I could accidentally bump into him in the hallway and we talk through the plan on the way to the next meeting." | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On October 20 2016 09:50 plasmidghost wrote: In all honesty I'd support repealing the presidential term limits amendment as long as we have fair elections every 4 years So you want them repealed right now? When were the last unfair elections in the US? | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On October 20 2016 09:50 plasmidghost wrote: In all honesty I'd support repealing the presidential term limits amendment as long as we have fair elections every 4 years No lie, I'm willing to make human sacrifices to make this happen. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On October 20 2016 09:53 mahrgell wrote: So you want them repealed right now? When were the last unfair elections in the US? I mean fair in that the US ensures that a president that has been in power for a while cannot consolidate it and prevent presidential elections, I don't think there's been any notable unfair election in the US for a while | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44334 Posts
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On October 20 2016 09:02 Kickstart wrote: Just saw MSNBC advertise the debate as 'the final showdown' and then had cuts of them back and forth bashing the other. Amused/annoyed that they have turned it into some hyped up sports event or something. Think that says something about the current state of our politics. The whole world watches on in horror as you choose which of the warmongers gets control of sufficient nuclear power to destroy the world ten times over through something akin to reality TV. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On October 20 2016 09:57 a_flayer wrote: The whole world watches on in horror as you choose which of the warmongers gets control of sufficient nuclear power to destroy the world ten times over through something akin to reality TV. We greatly apologize for our fuckups this year | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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