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On September 03 2016 02:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 01:41 Rebs wrote:On September 03 2016 01:37 KwarK wrote:On September 03 2016 01:29 OuchyDathurts wrote:On September 03 2016 01:21 Plansix wrote:On September 03 2016 01:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Amid public outcry over a sharp increase in the cost of the EpiPen, a life-saving drug to stop an anaphylactic allergy attack, Hillary Clinton has unveiled a plan to prevent “unjustified price hikes” for older prescription drugs.
Clinton’s proposal would create a team of representatives from federal agencies that would investigate and monitor the cost of long-available prescription drugs with little or no competition to protect consumers from so-called “price gouging”. The plan sets out criteria for determining “an excessive, outlier price increase” and a set of enforcement tools that include making alternative drugs available and imposing fines or penalties to help fund expanded access.
“Over the past year, we’ve seen far too many examples of drug companies raising prices excessively for longstanding, life-saving treatments with little or no new innovation or [research and development],” Clinton said in a statement. “It’s time to move beyond talking about these price hikes and start acting to address them.”
Last week, Clinton called on Mylan, the manufacturer of EpiPen, to reduce the cost of the medical device after reports highlighted that its price rose by 461%, from from $56.64 to $317.82, since 2007, when the company acquired the product.
In a statement, Clinton called the price hike “outrageous” a “troubling example” of pharmaceutical companies taking advantage of consumers. “Since there is no apparent justification in this case, I am calling on Mylan to immediately reduce the price of EpiPens,” Clinton said in a statement.
In response to the uproar, Mylan said it would launch a generic EpiPen version that is identical to the brand-name device but significantly less expensive, with a list price of $300 for a two-pack. The company also announced earlier that it would offer additional financial assistance, including co-payments worth $300, to patients who have to pay the full out-of-pocket price for the device.
Last year, Clinton outlined a plan to tackle the rising costs of prescription drugs amid outrage over the staggering price increase of Daraprim, a drug that treats life-threatening parasitic infection. The startup company responsible, Turing Pharmaceuticals, owned by controversial former hedge fund manager Martin Shkreli, acquired the decades-old drug and raised the cost from $13.50 to $750 per pill.
That plan would deny tax breaks for pharmaceutical companies that market medicines directly to consumers, a controversial and costly practice legal only in the US and New Zealand, according to the World Health Organization. Clinton also said she would push companies to invest in research and development in exchange for federal subsidies. Source If this policy leads to me no longer seeing ads for erection pills, I support every part that makes that happen. No longer will I see a 52 year old man throw a football through a tire swing. Oh god, no more drug commercials would be the fucking dream! Unfortunately there's way way WAYYYYYY too much money to be made from that garbage. They're banned in almost all other countries, just so you know. It's one of those weird things you notice after coming to the US than Americans might not think about because they're normal. yeah directly naming competitors and shitting on them in ads was a bit of "waaah?" moment for me aswell. Wait, so the rest of the world doesn't understand the eternal tug of war between Tylenol and Advil, while Aleve plays the role of Gary Johnson/ Team Instinct?
I just had to look those two up o/
That being said I would have known the names Paracetamol and Ibuprofen! Mostly because I'm supposedly alllergic against the first which is apparently super rare
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On September 03 2016 02:20 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 02:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 03 2016 01:41 Rebs wrote:On September 03 2016 01:37 KwarK wrote:On September 03 2016 01:29 OuchyDathurts wrote:On September 03 2016 01:21 Plansix wrote:On September 03 2016 01:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Amid public outcry over a sharp increase in the cost of the EpiPen, a life-saving drug to stop an anaphylactic allergy attack, Hillary Clinton has unveiled a plan to prevent “unjustified price hikes” for older prescription drugs.
Clinton’s proposal would create a team of representatives from federal agencies that would investigate and monitor the cost of long-available prescription drugs with little or no competition to protect consumers from so-called “price gouging”. The plan sets out criteria for determining “an excessive, outlier price increase” and a set of enforcement tools that include making alternative drugs available and imposing fines or penalties to help fund expanded access.
“Over the past year, we’ve seen far too many examples of drug companies raising prices excessively for longstanding, life-saving treatments with little or no new innovation or [research and development],” Clinton said in a statement. “It’s time to move beyond talking about these price hikes and start acting to address them.”
Last week, Clinton called on Mylan, the manufacturer of EpiPen, to reduce the cost of the medical device after reports highlighted that its price rose by 461%, from from $56.64 to $317.82, since 2007, when the company acquired the product.
In a statement, Clinton called the price hike “outrageous” a “troubling example” of pharmaceutical companies taking advantage of consumers. “Since there is no apparent justification in this case, I am calling on Mylan to immediately reduce the price of EpiPens,” Clinton said in a statement.
In response to the uproar, Mylan said it would launch a generic EpiPen version that is identical to the brand-name device but significantly less expensive, with a list price of $300 for a two-pack. The company also announced earlier that it would offer additional financial assistance, including co-payments worth $300, to patients who have to pay the full out-of-pocket price for the device.
Last year, Clinton outlined a plan to tackle the rising costs of prescription drugs amid outrage over the staggering price increase of Daraprim, a drug that treats life-threatening parasitic infection. The startup company responsible, Turing Pharmaceuticals, owned by controversial former hedge fund manager Martin Shkreli, acquired the decades-old drug and raised the cost from $13.50 to $750 per pill.
That plan would deny tax breaks for pharmaceutical companies that market medicines directly to consumers, a controversial and costly practice legal only in the US and New Zealand, according to the World Health Organization. Clinton also said she would push companies to invest in research and development in exchange for federal subsidies. Source If this policy leads to me no longer seeing ads for erection pills, I support every part that makes that happen. No longer will I see a 52 year old man throw a football through a tire swing. Oh god, no more drug commercials would be the fucking dream! Unfortunately there's way way WAYYYYYY too much money to be made from that garbage. They're banned in almost all other countries, just so you know. It's one of those weird things you notice after coming to the US than Americans might not think about because they're normal. yeah directly naming competitors and shitting on them in ads was a bit of "waaah?" moment for me aswell. Wait, so the rest of the world doesn't understand the eternal tug of war between Tylenol and Advil, while Aleve plays the role of Gary Johnson/ Team Instinct? I just had to look those two up o/ That being said I would have known the names Paracetamol and Ibuprofen! Mostly because I'm supposedly alllergic against the first which is apparently super rare
Your not alone! I'm allergic to Paracetamol aswell. A real pain in the ass if your a kid and the school first-aid doesnt have anything else ><
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On September 03 2016 02:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 01:41 Rebs wrote:On September 03 2016 01:37 KwarK wrote:On September 03 2016 01:29 OuchyDathurts wrote:On September 03 2016 01:21 Plansix wrote:On September 03 2016 01:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Amid public outcry over a sharp increase in the cost of the EpiPen, a life-saving drug to stop an anaphylactic allergy attack, Hillary Clinton has unveiled a plan to prevent “unjustified price hikes” for older prescription drugs.
Clinton’s proposal would create a team of representatives from federal agencies that would investigate and monitor the cost of long-available prescription drugs with little or no competition to protect consumers from so-called “price gouging”. The plan sets out criteria for determining “an excessive, outlier price increase” and a set of enforcement tools that include making alternative drugs available and imposing fines or penalties to help fund expanded access.
“Over the past year, we’ve seen far too many examples of drug companies raising prices excessively for longstanding, life-saving treatments with little or no new innovation or [research and development],” Clinton said in a statement. “It’s time to move beyond talking about these price hikes and start acting to address them.”
Last week, Clinton called on Mylan, the manufacturer of EpiPen, to reduce the cost of the medical device after reports highlighted that its price rose by 461%, from from $56.64 to $317.82, since 2007, when the company acquired the product.
In a statement, Clinton called the price hike “outrageous” a “troubling example” of pharmaceutical companies taking advantage of consumers. “Since there is no apparent justification in this case, I am calling on Mylan to immediately reduce the price of EpiPens,” Clinton said in a statement.
In response to the uproar, Mylan said it would launch a generic EpiPen version that is identical to the brand-name device but significantly less expensive, with a list price of $300 for a two-pack. The company also announced earlier that it would offer additional financial assistance, including co-payments worth $300, to patients who have to pay the full out-of-pocket price for the device.
Last year, Clinton outlined a plan to tackle the rising costs of prescription drugs amid outrage over the staggering price increase of Daraprim, a drug that treats life-threatening parasitic infection. The startup company responsible, Turing Pharmaceuticals, owned by controversial former hedge fund manager Martin Shkreli, acquired the decades-old drug and raised the cost from $13.50 to $750 per pill.
That plan would deny tax breaks for pharmaceutical companies that market medicines directly to consumers, a controversial and costly practice legal only in the US and New Zealand, according to the World Health Organization. Clinton also said she would push companies to invest in research and development in exchange for federal subsidies. Source If this policy leads to me no longer seeing ads for erection pills, I support every part that makes that happen. No longer will I see a 52 year old man throw a football through a tire swing. Oh god, no more drug commercials would be the fucking dream! Unfortunately there's way way WAYYYYYY too much money to be made from that garbage. They're banned in almost all other countries, just so you know. It's one of those weird things you notice after coming to the US than Americans might not think about because they're normal. yeah directly naming competitors and shitting on them in ads was a bit of "waaah?" moment for me aswell. Wait, so the rest of the world doesn't understand the eternal tug of war between Tylenol and Advil, while Aleve plays the role of Gary Johnson/ Team Instinct?
haha no, its more like
"this drug does x better than all competitors."
or to be more elaborate the paraphrased version of an ad would be
"This is Plasma he just used a regular pain reliever. Now it is not acting fast enough and he is going to flop his big meeting. Dont be like Plasma. While showing Plasma in an atrocious state disappointing in his big moment due to the headache he cant keep away.
Here is Brand Drug Y. Kill all headaches and your presentations and become a boss. Shows Plasma killing it.
Brand Drug Y will change your life.
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On September 03 2016 01:34 Plansix wrote:
The ACA got through congress dispute overwhelming opposition from the health care industry. I can see ending the tax exemption happening if the democrats do well. It isn't my number 1 issue, but getting healthcare to be less shitty is up there.
The ACA passed despite the healthcare industry because Dems killed the public option and Hillary also abandoned single payer and is now pushing for universal insurance.
Reminder for Hillary supporters that this won't be a surprise when it happens:
+ Show Spoiler +
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Consumers don't need to use antibacterial soaps, and some of them may even be dangerous, the Food and Drug Administration says.
On Friday, the FDA issued a rule banning the use of triclosan, triclocarban and 17 other chemicals in hand and body washes. which are marketed as being more effective than simple soap.
Companies have a year to take these ingredients out of their products or remove the products from the market, the agency said.
"If the product makes antibacterial claims, chances are pretty good that it contains one of these ingredients," Theresa Michele, director of the FDA's Division of Nonprescription Drug Products, said Friday in a conference call with reporters.
The ban applies only to consumer products, not to antibacterial soaps used in hospitals and food service settings.
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There is some evidence that triclosan, triclocarban and the other chemicals can disrupt hormone cycles and cause muscle weakness, says Mae Wu, a senior attorney at the Natural Resources Defense Council, which originally asked the FDA to ban the ingredients.
The rule is part of a broader effort by the FDA to encourage consumers to skip so-called antibacterial soaps and simply use regular soap and water.
"There's no data demonstrating that over-the-counter antibacterial soaps are better at preventing illness than washing with plain soap and water," the agency said in a press release issued shortly after the rule was announced.
But advocates for the soap industry dispute that.
"Washing the hands with an antiseptic soap can help reduce the risk of infection beyond that provided by washing with non-antibacterial soap and water," said Brian Sansoni, spokesman for the American Cleaning Institute, in an emailed statement.
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http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/09/02/492394717/fda-bans-19-chemicals-used-in-antibacterial-soaps
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GH, I was alive in 2010 and know exactly what happened. The public option and single payer were never going to work out. The ACA barely got passed and had to be rushed out the door because Ted Kennedy died. I voted in the special election for his seat and based my vote on the fact that the health care reform needed to go through.
So you don't need to educate me on your version what what happened. I remember that time very clearly.
Also: Yay for banning dangerous soaps.
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On September 03 2016 03:13 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 01:34 Plansix wrote:
The ACA got through congress dispute overwhelming opposition from the health care industry. I can see ending the tax exemption happening if the democrats do well. It isn't my number 1 issue, but getting healthcare to be less shitty is up there. The ACA passed despite the healthcare industry because Dems killed the public option and Hillary also abandoned single payer and is now pushing for universal insurance. Reminder for Hillary supporters that this won't be a surprise when it happens: + Show Spoiler +
Fantastic graphic that basically summarizes my thoughts on Hillary's "bipartisanship."
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On September 03 2016 03:19 Plansix wrote:
GH, I was alive in 2010 and know exactly what happened. The public option and single payer were never going to work out. The ACA barely got passed and had to be rushed out the door because Ted Kennedy died. I voted in the special election for his seat and based my vote on the fact that the health care reform needed to go through.
So you don't need to educate me on your version what what happened. I remember that time very clearly.
Also: Yay for banning dangerous soaps.
I remmeber posting in this thread when it happened. All I remember about the guy that won is that he won based on an ad that he drives a truck.
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On September 03 2016 03:57 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 03:19 Plansix wrote:
GH, I was alive in 2010 and know exactly what happened. The public option and single payer were never going to work out. The ACA barely got passed and had to be rushed out the door because Ted Kennedy died. I voted in the special election for his seat and based my vote on the fact that the health care reform needed to go through.
So you don't need to educate me on your version what what happened. I remember that time very clearly.
Also: Yay for banning dangerous soaps. I remmeber posting in this thread when it happened. All I remember about the guy that won is that he won based on an ad that he drives a truck.
Scott Brown is a stuffed shirt who won against one of the weakest candidates MA democrats could have put out there. I had zero love for the Martha Coakley and I think she was a shitty AG, but the health care vote mattered. There is a reason Brown lost to Warren next election, and it is because he sucked and did nothing. If want to be a Republican in MA and work in the US senate, you need to work with Democrats a lot or you are going to get voted out pretty quick. Scott missed the memo.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/02/presidential-debate-moderators-announced/89762876/
First presidential debate:
Lester Holt, Anchor, NBC Nightly News
Monday, September 26, Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY
Vice presidential debate:
Elaine Quijano, Anchor, CBSN and Correspondent, CBS News
Tuesday, October 4, Longwood University, Farmville, VA
Second presidential debate (town meeting):
Martha Raddatz, Chief Global Affairs Correspondent and Co-Anchor of “This Week,” ABC
Anderson Cooper, Anchor, CNN
Sunday, October 9, Washington University in St. Louis, St. Louis, MO
Third presidential debate:
Chris Wallace, Anchor, Fox News Sunday
Wednesday, October 19, University of Nevada, Las Vegas, Las Vegas, NV
The CPD also announced that Steve Scully, Senior Executive Producer, White House and Political Editor for C-SPAN Networks, will serve as backup moderator for all the debates.
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has run an unusually cheap campaign in part by not paying at least 10 top staffers, consultants and advisers, some of whom are no longer with the campaign, according to a review of federal campaign finance filings.
Those who have so far not been paid, the filings show, include recently departed campaign manager Paul Manafort, California state director Tim Clark, communications director Michael Caputo and a pair of senior aides who left the campaign in June to immediately go to work for a Trump Super PAC.
The New York real estate magnate and his allies have touted his campaign’s frugality, saying it is evidence of his management skills. His campaign’s spending has totaled $89.5 million so far, about a third of what Democratic rival Hillary Clinton’s campaign has spent.
But not compensating top people in a presidential campaign is a departure from campaign finance norms. Many of the positions involved might typically come with six-figure annual paychecks in other campaigns.
“It’s unprecedented for a presidential campaign to rely so heavily on volunteers for top management positions,” said Paul Ryan, an election lawyer with the campaign finance reform advocacy group Campaign Legal Center.
The Trump campaign said the Reuters’ reporting was “sloppy at best” but declined to elaborate.
One of the 10 who were unpaid, Michael Caputo, told a Buffalo radio station in June after he resigned from the campaign, that he was not volunteering. Rather, he said he just had not gotten paid. Caputo confirmed to Reuters on Thursday that the Trump campaign has still not paid his invoices.
In another instance, two high-level former Trump campaign advisers, former Chris Christie campaign manager Ken McKay and Manafort lobbying associate Laurance Gay, departed the Trump campaign in June and went to work for the Trump-backed Super PAC, Rebuilding America Now. In June, the Super PAC paid each of them $60,000, the filings show.
Federal campaign law stipulates that people working for campaigns, who may possess strategic knowledge of a campaign or work as a campaign’s agents, must wait for 120 days before going to work for a Super PAC, a political spending group that can accept unlimited sums of money from wealthy donors so long as it does not coordinate with a campaign.
Through a spokesperson, McKay and Gay said they were volunteering for Trump and did not possess strategic information so the rule did not apply to them.
Source
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How does the campaign manager not have strategic information? Do they think the FEC is going to be fool by that shit?I will enjoy when the robust review of this garbage after the election.
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biology -> I'd answer your poll question; but I can't read anything inside spoilers, and I'm not sure thing setup as actual polls work either; ever since I had to disable a bunch of stuff to get tl to not crash my browser. So I'm not quite sure what your question is.
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So are these new FBI documents another tempest in a teapot or is everyone frothing at mouth about it legit or is it somewhere in between?
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On September 03 2016 04:53 zlefin wrote:
biology -> I'd answer your poll question; but I can't read anything inside spoilers, and I'm not sure thing setup as actual polls work either; ever since I had to disable a bunch of stuff to get tl to not crash my browser. So I'm not quite sure what your question is.
my q was if you could replace hrc with any currently available democrat for office, would you? (no repeat obama)
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On September 03 2016 05:12 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So are these new FBI documents another tempest in a teapot or is everyone frothing at mouth about it legit or is it somewhere in between?
Maybe Trump can use this to target her mental health even more? due to her saying she couldn't recall over and over.
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On September 03 2016 05:12 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So are these new FBI documents another tempest in a teapot or is everyone frothing at mouth about it legit or is it somewhere in between?
They are nothing, IMO. I think the report hurts any argument against Clinton because they are so concise about how few emails contained sensitive information and how few of the emails were marked. And that she received almost all of classified information via physical documents. Citing that report doesn’t help make the case because it breaks down how little was found.
Anyone who works with email in an office knows how much non-sense you get related to your job and how much you have to delete. If someone asked me about a 4 year old case and the emails related to it, my response would be "I don't recall" more often than not.
In contrast, Clinton is being asked about ALL her emails for her entire time as SOS. If she remembered all of it, she would be a tiny god with super human memory powers.
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On September 03 2016 05:21 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 05:12 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So are these new FBI documents another tempest in a teapot or is everyone frothing at mouth about it legit or is it somewhere in between? They are nothing, IMO. I think the report hurts any argument against Clinton because they are so concise about how few emails contained sensitive information and how few of the emails were marked. And that she received almost all of classified information via physical documents. Citing that report doesn’t help make the case because it breaks down how little was found.
It doesnt matter though. Now its out. And Trump can lie about it.
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On September 03 2016 05:23 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 05:21 Plansix wrote:On September 03 2016 05:12 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So are these new FBI documents another tempest in a teapot or is everyone frothing at mouth about it legit or is it somewhere in between? They are nothing, IMO. I think the report hurts any argument against Clinton because they are so concise about how few emails contained sensitive information and how few of the emails were marked. And that she received almost all of classified information via physical documents. Citing that report doesn’t help make the case because it breaks down how little was found. It doesnt matter though. Now its out. And Trump can lie about it.
I doubt that is going to change any minds that haven't already been changed. We are close to blood for a stone when it comes to the email drama.
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On September 03 2016 05:12 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So are these new FBI documents another tempest in a teapot or is everyone frothing at mouth about it legit or is it somewhere in between?
Just the same ole "LOOK! HRC HAD WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE SHE WORKED WITH! THEY HAPPENED TO BE INVOLVED IN MANY THINGS AS A RESULT OF WORKING TOGETHER! FRAUD!"
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