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On July 26 2016 07:22 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:18 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:16 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:11 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:04 amazingxkcd wrote:
To me, you're either voting for hillary because you rather ignore the insurmountable corruption surrounding her and her clinton foundation, focusing on feelings or you vote for trump to fix said corruptions and remove her taint from DC The idea that the token Hillary voter is appealing to emotion more than the token Trump voter is astounding to me. Trump and the RNC are 100% about fearmongering and hatemongering, whereas the Democratic message has been much more positive and optimistic. And what about the entire list of great reforms that I just posted, that Hillary and the Democrats support, that Trump and the Republicans don't? and you're fearmongering with that list. Donald trump hasnt made claims to remove any of that, Either you're joking or you haven't started to follow his election campaign yet. except i do follow his campaign closely? you're making assumptions that he's some tyrannical warlord that wants ot remove everything dems have done just for the hell of it Then you are ignoring those things, because the GOP is pushing to end all of them. Gay marriage, abortions, the voters rights act. They want them all removed. If you don't believe is it going to happen, that is fine. But don't expect everyone else to take that chance. since when did donald say blacks cant vote? since when did donald sasy gay marriage should be removed? i personally am against abortion but i havent seen donald say we must ban abortion without any questions He claimed that women seeking abortions should be punished. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/30/context-transcript-donald-trump-punishing-women-ab/Show nested quote +MATTHEWS: Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no as a principle?
TRUMP: The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.
MATTHEWS: For the woman.
TRUMP: Yeah, there has to be some form. Like he literally said women should be punished for abortion.
If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed - like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion
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On July 26 2016 07:22 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
The social issues are pretty much my main gripe with the republican establishment as well and it seems very much to me like that is part of the reason they hate Trump so much - he doesn't care for any of it either because he's by means a social liberal as well.
I think that's probably true, but him taking Pence as his VP damages my ability to believe that he'd split with the party on these issues when push comes to shove.
At the end of the day it's what he does, not what he believes, that actually matters. And a Republican president is far more likely to be pushed into the Republican agenda than a Democratic one (even one as corrupt as Hillary Clinton).
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On July 26 2016 07:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:22 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2016 07:18 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:16 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:11 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:04 amazingxkcd wrote:
To me, you're either voting for hillary because you rather ignore the insurmountable corruption surrounding her and her clinton foundation, focusing on feelings or you vote for trump to fix said corruptions and remove her taint from DC The idea that the token Hillary voter is appealing to emotion more than the token Trump voter is astounding to me. Trump and the RNC are 100% about fearmongering and hatemongering, whereas the Democratic message has been much more positive and optimistic. And what about the entire list of great reforms that I just posted, that Hillary and the Democrats support, that Trump and the Republicans don't? and you're fearmongering with that list. Donald trump hasnt made claims to remove any of that, Either you're joking or you haven't started to follow his election campaign yet. except i do follow his campaign closely? you're making assumptions that he's some tyrannical warlord that wants ot remove everything dems have done just for the hell of it Then you are ignoring those things, because the GOP is pushing to end all of them. Gay marriage, abortions, the voters rights act. They want them all removed. If you don't believe is it going to happen, that is fine. But don't expect everyone else to take that chance. since when did donald say blacks cant vote? since when did donald sasy gay marriage should be removed? i personally am against abortion but i havent seen donald say we must ban abortion without any questions He claimed that women seeking abortions should be punished. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/30/context-transcript-donald-trump-punishing-women-ab/MATTHEWS: Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no as a principle?
TRUMP: The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.
MATTHEWS: For the woman.
TRUMP: Yeah, there has to be some form. Like he literally said women should be punished for abortion. Show nested quote +If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed - like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion
Is this like the Muslim ban: where he says its not a thing and then a week later he is talking about it again like he is totally going to ban all Muslims?
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"Can we move the prompter again?"
rofl
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On July 26 2016 07:14 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:11 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:04 amazingxkcd wrote:
To me, you're either voting for hillary because you rather ignore the insurmountable corruption surrounding her and her clinton foundation, focusing on feelings or you vote for trump to fix said corruptions and remove her taint from DC The idea that the token Hillary voter is appealing to emotion more than the token Trump voter is astounding to me. Trump and the RNC are 100% about fearmongering and hatemongering, whereas the Democratic message has been much more positive and optimistic. And what about the entire list of great reforms that I just posted, that Hillary and the Democrats support, that Trump and the Republicans don't? and you're fearmongering with that list. Donald trump hasnt made claims to remove any of that, Either you're joking or you haven't started to follow his election campaign yet. except i do follow his campaign closely? you're making assumptions that he's some tyrannical warlord that wants ot remove everything dems have done just for the hell of it That's because he isn't pandering 24/7 it makes them uncomfortable
lol The people thinking the convention was going to be smooth sailing have a hard time admitting they were really wrong.
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On July 26 2016 07:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
tbf kwark he walked back on that one pronto
Which is comforting to who exactly?
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On July 26 2016 07:26 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 26 2016 07:22 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2016 07:18 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:16 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:11 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:04 amazingxkcd wrote:
To me, you're either voting for hillary because you rather ignore the insurmountable corruption surrounding her and her clinton foundation, focusing on feelings or you vote for trump to fix said corruptions and remove her taint from DC The idea that the token Hillary voter is appealing to emotion more than the token Trump voter is astounding to me. Trump and the RNC are 100% about fearmongering and hatemongering, whereas the Democratic message has been much more positive and optimistic. And what about the entire list of great reforms that I just posted, that Hillary and the Democrats support, that Trump and the Republicans don't? and you're fearmongering with that list. Donald trump hasnt made claims to remove any of that, Either you're joking or you haven't started to follow his election campaign yet. except i do follow his campaign closely? you're making assumptions that he's some tyrannical warlord that wants ot remove everything dems have done just for the hell of it Then you are ignoring those things, because the GOP is pushing to end all of them. Gay marriage, abortions, the voters rights act. They want them all removed. If you don't believe is it going to happen, that is fine. But don't expect everyone else to take that chance. since when did donald say blacks cant vote? since when did donald sasy gay marriage should be removed? i personally am against abortion but i havent seen donald say we must ban abortion without any questions He claimed that women seeking abortions should be punished. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/30/context-transcript-donald-trump-punishing-women-ab/MATTHEWS: Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no as a principle?
TRUMP: The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.
MATTHEWS: For the woman.
TRUMP: Yeah, there has to be some form. Like he literally said women should be punished for abortion. If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed - like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion Is this like the Muslim ban: where he says its not a thing and then a week later he is talking about it again like he is totally going to ban all Muslims?
It's a thing where you should just watch the interview yourself and decide.
It looked like the interviewer was out for blood, got the upper hand on him, and baited him into saying something he didn't want to say. He instantly backed off what he said and put this statement out in response.
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On July 26 2016 07:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:26 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 26 2016 07:22 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2016 07:18 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:16 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:11 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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The idea that the token Hillary voter is appealing to emotion more than the token Trump voter is astounding to me. Trump and the RNC are 100% about fearmongering and hatemongering, whereas the Democratic message has been much more positive and optimistic. And what about the entire list of great reforms that I just posted, that Hillary and the Democrats support, that Trump and the Republicans don't? and you're fearmongering with that list. Donald trump hasnt made claims to remove any of that, Either you're joking or you haven't started to follow his election campaign yet. except i do follow his campaign closely? you're making assumptions that he's some tyrannical warlord that wants ot remove everything dems have done just for the hell of it Then you are ignoring those things, because the GOP is pushing to end all of them. Gay marriage, abortions, the voters rights act. They want them all removed. If you don't believe is it going to happen, that is fine. But don't expect everyone else to take that chance. since when did donald say blacks cant vote? since when did donald sasy gay marriage should be removed? i personally am against abortion but i havent seen donald say we must ban abortion without any questions He claimed that women seeking abortions should be punished. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/30/context-transcript-donald-trump-punishing-women-ab/MATTHEWS: Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no as a principle?
TRUMP: The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.
MATTHEWS: For the woman.
TRUMP: Yeah, there has to be some form. Like he literally said women should be punished for abortion. If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed - like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion Is this like the Muslim ban: where he says its not a thing and then a week later he is talking about it again like he is totally going to ban all Muslims? It's a thing where you should just watch the interview yourself and decide. It looked like the interviewer was out for blood, got the upper hand on him, and baited him into saying something he didn't want to say. He instantly backed off what he said and put this statement out in response.
The interview with Chris Matthews? I agree that the video should be watched, because Matthews wasn't baiting anything imo; he just insisted that Trump actually give a straight answer, and Matthews didn't back down from his abortion question until Trump actually gave an answer (which Trump isn't used to).
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lol. It's just ridiculous. We're so united...
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On July 26 2016 07:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:26 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 26 2016 07:22 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2016 07:18 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:16 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:11 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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The idea that the token Hillary voter is appealing to emotion more than the token Trump voter is astounding to me. Trump and the RNC are 100% about fearmongering and hatemongering, whereas the Democratic message has been much more positive and optimistic. And what about the entire list of great reforms that I just posted, that Hillary and the Democrats support, that Trump and the Republicans don't? and you're fearmongering with that list. Donald trump hasnt made claims to remove any of that, Either you're joking or you haven't started to follow his election campaign yet. except i do follow his campaign closely? you're making assumptions that he's some tyrannical warlord that wants ot remove everything dems have done just for the hell of it Then you are ignoring those things, because the GOP is pushing to end all of them. Gay marriage, abortions, the voters rights act. They want them all removed. If you don't believe is it going to happen, that is fine. But don't expect everyone else to take that chance. since when did donald say blacks cant vote? since when did donald sasy gay marriage should be removed? i personally am against abortion but i havent seen donald say we must ban abortion without any questions He claimed that women seeking abortions should be punished. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/30/context-transcript-donald-trump-punishing-women-ab/MATTHEWS: Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no as a principle?
TRUMP: The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.
MATTHEWS: For the woman.
TRUMP: Yeah, there has to be some form. Like he literally said women should be punished for abortion. If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed - like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion Is this like the Muslim ban: where he says its not a thing and then a week later he is talking about it again like he is totally going to ban all Muslims? It's a thing where you should just watch the interview yourself and decide. It looked like the interviewer was out for blood, got the upper hand on him, and baited him into saying something he didn't want to say. He instantly backed off what he said and put this statement out in response.
In what world did you think I haven't seen it?
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United States44203 Posts
On July 26 2016 07:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 26 2016 07:26 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 26 2016 07:22 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2016 07:18 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:16 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:11 amazingxkcd wrote:
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and you're fearmongering with that list. Donald trump hasnt made claims to remove any of that, Either you're joking or you haven't started to follow his election campaign yet. except i do follow his campaign closely? you're making assumptions that he's some tyrannical warlord that wants ot remove everything dems have done just for the hell of it Then you are ignoring those things, because the GOP is pushing to end all of them. Gay marriage, abortions, the voters rights act. They want them all removed. If you don't believe is it going to happen, that is fine. But don't expect everyone else to take that chance. since when did donald say blacks cant vote? since when did donald sasy gay marriage should be removed? i personally am against abortion but i havent seen donald say we must ban abortion without any questions He claimed that women seeking abortions should be punished. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/30/context-transcript-donald-trump-punishing-women-ab/MATTHEWS: Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no as a principle?
TRUMP: The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.
MATTHEWS: For the woman.
TRUMP: Yeah, there has to be some form. Like he literally said women should be punished for abortion. If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed - like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion Is this like the Muslim ban: where he says its not a thing and then a week later he is talking about it again like he is totally going to ban all Muslims? It's a thing where you should just watch the interview yourself and decide. It looked like the interviewer was out for blood, got the upper hand on him, and baited him into saying something he didn't want to say. He instantly backed off what he said and put this statement out in response. The interview with Chris Matthews? I agree that the video should be watched, because Matthews wasn't baiting anything imo; he just insisted that Trump actually give a straight answer, and Matthews didn't back down from his abortion question until Trump actually gave an answer (which Trump isn't used to).
The text from that was actually a great read. Trump tried to redirect and change the subject to the Pope, to Catholic dogma, to whether Matthews was a good Catholic etc over and over and Matthews just smoothly dismissed that and then hammered it back onto Trump. Even if you believe that Trump was just trying to give any kind of answer and completely misspoke on the issue it still shows how badly out of his depth he was and how ineffectual and incompetent he is when not allowed to slither around on an issue.
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On July 26 2016 07:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:26 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 26 2016 07:22 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2016 07:18 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:16 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:11 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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The idea that the token Hillary voter is appealing to emotion more than the token Trump voter is astounding to me. Trump and the RNC are 100% about fearmongering and hatemongering, whereas the Democratic message has been much more positive and optimistic. And what about the entire list of great reforms that I just posted, that Hillary and the Democrats support, that Trump and the Republicans don't? and you're fearmongering with that list. Donald trump hasnt made claims to remove any of that, Either you're joking or you haven't started to follow his election campaign yet. except i do follow his campaign closely? you're making assumptions that he's some tyrannical warlord that wants ot remove everything dems have done just for the hell of it Then you are ignoring those things, because the GOP is pushing to end all of them. Gay marriage, abortions, the voters rights act. They want them all removed. If you don't believe is it going to happen, that is fine. But don't expect everyone else to take that chance. since when did donald say blacks cant vote? since when did donald sasy gay marriage should be removed? i personally am against abortion but i havent seen donald say we must ban abortion without any questions He claimed that women seeking abortions should be punished. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/30/context-transcript-donald-trump-punishing-women-ab/MATTHEWS: Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no as a principle?
TRUMP: The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.
MATTHEWS: For the woman.
TRUMP: Yeah, there has to be some form. Like he literally said women should be punished for abortion. If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed - like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion Is this like the Muslim ban: where he says its not a thing and then a week later he is talking about it again like he is totally going to ban all Muslims? It's a thing where you should just watch the interview yourself and decide. It looked like the interviewer was out for blood, got the upper hand on him, and baited him into saying something he didn't want to say. He instantly backed off what he said and put this statement out in response.
There's nothing tricky about the question of whether a woman should be punished after an abortion. It's very simple.
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We broke rules on purpose because we want to fuck over the guy we wanted to win!!!! He doesn't even want us to do this!!!!! Woooo!!!
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Yes ridiculous they are taking away the signs you yourself said were not allowed inside....
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On July 26 2016 07:34 Plansix wrote:We broke rules on purpose because we want to fuck over the guy we wanted to win!!!! He doesn't even want us to do this!!!!! Woooo!!!
Oh so the rules about signs you care about, the being impartial, not so much. lol.
Trump's probably going to win since dems seem incapable of even understanding why the people are resisting so hard.
It's just reinforcing the reality that the notion that the party is united is imaginary. You want a united party you make some real change, otherwise this is just the beginning. Today was the tamest stuff planned since most of the speakers were Bernie supporters trying to calm the fire.
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On July 26 2016 07:33 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 07:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 26 2016 07:26 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 26 2016 07:22 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2016 07:18 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:16 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2016 07:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 26 2016 07:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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Either you're joking or you haven't started to follow his election campaign yet. except i do follow his campaign closely? you're making assumptions that he's some tyrannical warlord that wants ot remove everything dems have done just for the hell of it Then you are ignoring those things, because the GOP is pushing to end all of them. Gay marriage, abortions, the voters rights act. They want them all removed. If you don't believe is it going to happen, that is fine. But don't expect everyone else to take that chance. since when did donald say blacks cant vote? since when did donald sasy gay marriage should be removed? i personally am against abortion but i havent seen donald say we must ban abortion without any questions He claimed that women seeking abortions should be punished. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/30/context-transcript-donald-trump-punishing-women-ab/MATTHEWS: Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no as a principle?
TRUMP: The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.
MATTHEWS: For the woman.
TRUMP: Yeah, there has to be some form. Like he literally said women should be punished for abortion. If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed - like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion Is this like the Muslim ban: where he says its not a thing and then a week later he is talking about it again like he is totally going to ban all Muslims? It's a thing where you should just watch the interview yourself and decide. It looked like the interviewer was out for blood, got the upper hand on him, and baited him into saying something he didn't want to say. He instantly backed off what he said and put this statement out in response. The interview with Chris Matthews? I agree that the video should be watched, because Matthews wasn't baiting anything imo; he just insisted that Trump actually give a straight answer, and Matthews didn't back down from his abortion question until Trump actually gave an answer (which Trump isn't used to). The text from that was actually a great read. Trump tried to redirect and change the subject to the Pope, to Catholic dogma, to whether Matthews was a good Catholic etc over and over and Matthews just smoothly dismissed that and then hammered it back onto Trump. Even if you believe that Trump was just trying to give any kind of answer and completely misspoke on the issue it still shows how badly out of his depth he was and how ineffectual and incompetent he is when not allowed to slither around on an issue.
I think it comes down to the fact that he honestly doesn't care that much about it, much in line with the fact that he's a social liberal, but knows what he's expected to say to appeal to the far right of his party, for whom it is a very important moral issue.
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On July 26 2016 07:36 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:34 Plansix wrote:We broke rules on purpose because we want to fuck over the guy we wanted to win!!!! He doesn't even want us to do this!!!!! Woooo!!! Oh so the rules about signs you care about, the being impartial, not so much. lol. Trump's probably going to win since dems seem incapable of even understanding why the people are resisting so hard.
I'm sorry, 3.7 million people disagreed. But keep trolling. It only shows just how unreasonable Bernie set your expectations. Or maybe you did this to yourself.
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On July 26 2016 07:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I think it comes down to the fact that he honestly doesn't care that much about it, much in line with the fact that he's a social liberal, but knows what he's expected to say to appeal to the far right of his party, for whom it is a very important moral issue.
So what does that mean when a Republican Congress puts anti-abortion legislation on his desk?
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Oh, you call 50% of the US population know-nothings? Cool cool, all inclusive.
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On July 26 2016 07:36 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 07:34 Plansix wrote:We broke rules on purpose because we want to fuck over the guy we wanted to win!!!! He doesn't even want us to do this!!!!! Woooo!!! Oh so the rules about signs you care about, the being impartial, not so much. lol. Trump's probably going to win since dems seem incapable of even understanding why the people are resisting so hard. It's just reinforcing the reality that the notion that the party is united is imaginary. You want a united party you make some real change, otherwise this is just the beginning. Today was the tamest stuff planned since most of the speakers were Bernie supporters trying to calm the fire.
ýour the vocal minority, yes you can boo and shout but none of it matters. The party leaders and vast majority of voters are united behind Hillary
Unlike the Republicans where the majority of voters are behind Trump and the party leadership wants nothing to do with him.
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