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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On July 25 2016 05:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Of course Clinton doesn't want her to speak alternate media will explode over this. Hell TYT is already covering this an they get more traffic than CNN. Did they cover Twitter trying to suppress the story? | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9206 Posts
On July 25 2016 04:51 zeo wrote: Whats wrong with that tweet? A lot of people voted for Hillary in the primaries because they thought she was going to win anyway because of the super-delegates. It was on liberal news channels 24/7 how Bernie had no chance to win hillary was the safe pick because of the super-delegates. Anyway... When an election is seen as a forgone conclusion, it's the favorite that loses more due to voter complacency. That's the main mechanism through which polling upsets happen and if anything, this helped Bernie (see Indiana & Michigan primary polls vs results). It's also how we got our current president, he was ~9 points behind in the polls between the 1st & 2nd round and he won by ~9 points. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Hm4J9X8.png) Anyway you weren't even arguing that Bernie supporters would be discouraged to vote by his chances (which at least sounds intuitive), but that they'd instead vote for HIllary thinking she was going to win anyway. I've never heard of such reasoning to vote for someone, it makes no sense to me, that's shooting yourself in the foot with absolutely nothing to gain. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On unity: the Republican party has always been more unified and had a stronger sense of solidarity and involvement in political affairs. But the Democratic party is significantly larger. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On July 25 2016 05:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/bakedalaska/status/757274448294588417 Wait, is that a leftist/Bernie supporter with a Milo website email address? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 25 2016 05:54 xDaunt wrote: Wait, is that a leftist/Bernie supporter with a Milo website email address? Geee, there is no possible way that this guy's sole goal is to stir up shit? Edit: Yeah, he is pushing to have Milo back on twitter and garbage. He would be shitting on Bernie or whoever was going to be running against Trump. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
On July 25 2016 05:54 xDaunt wrote: Wait, is that a leftist/Bernie supporter with a Milo website email address? The guy has a trump licking the building as his background image. Pretty sure he is a trump supporter, even tho when it comes to the DNC primaries criticism from bernie and trump supporters is pretty much the same. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12454 Posts
On July 25 2016 05:37 Dan HH wrote: When an election is seen as a forgone conclusion, it's the favorite that loses more due to voter complacency. That's the main mechanism through which polling upsets happen and if anything, this helped Bernie (see Indiana & Michigan primary polls vs results). Both are likely to happen; some people will be discouraged to vote for Bernie, some people will feel it's not necessary to vote for Clinton. It's hard to argue whether it cancels out or not. In the context of a primary, there is an additional factor. If it's a close race between the two candidates of the party you know you're going to vote for, it might raise your interest in the second candidate. You might wonder why he's doing so well and invest some time in looking at what he said and how it differentiates him from the other candidate. Perhaps you'll look at both platforms and perhaps you'll change your mind, or perhaps you won't. If it's not a close race, if it's a foregone conclusion that the other candidate will win, then it doesn't really matter what the second candidate thinks, because he's not going to win anyway. You might not invest that time into looking him up and stick with the candidate that is going to win, cause of surface arguments like "electability" and cause you know you'll support the party anyway. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45854 Posts
On July 25 2016 05:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I think that's a really smart and dare-I-say moral move from the Democratic Party. Good. | ||
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RolleMcKnolle
Germany1054 Posts
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.redstate.com/uploads/2016/07/HILLARY-EMAIL.jpg) Hillary just added DWS to her campaign - Awesome! | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 25 2016 06:54 scott31337 wrote: Hillary just added DWS to her campaign - Awesome! "Honorary chair" sounds like a position they made up to give her the job of "Please deal wit the Democrats who still want to deal with you." On July 25 2016 07:00 Nevuk wrote: The optics are also horrible, like did people need any MORE proof that DWS' only role as DNC chair was to make Hillary their nominee? She is well connected and there are members of the DNC who like her still. They can't just boot her, someone who matters will get grumpy. She isn't part of the official Clinton Election campaign. She is part of some nation wide group that is coordinating efforts to get other democrats elected. | ||
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RolleMcKnolle
Germany1054 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 25 2016 07:02 RolleMcKnolle wrote: also, the new interim chair isnt even slightly better: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4uf3qx/new_dnc_interim_chair_in_leaked_emails_i_will/ Sanders is a grumpy old man that doesn't work well with others .Do you want her to shower Sanders with kisses and hugs? Sing his praises from the roof in private email? Do you think Sander said nice things about all this co-workers and other democrats? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45854 Posts
On July 25 2016 06:49 RolleMcKnolle wrote: I wouldn't call it moral, rather damage control. Since she is becoming more and more of a liability and HRC is in the position to decide on the next chair anyway. So it doesn't even matter. I think that's a good way of putting it! | ||
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