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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24134 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 01:19:01
June 06 2016 01:18 GMT
#79081
On June 06 2016 10:05 farvacola wrote:
political science majors don't have any money to run for office on



I think we should replace every member of the house and senate. Doesn't mean some of the long time members shouldn't get back in, but that we'd be better off starting with a whole new group of folks and working from there.

Coincidentally, same thing I advocate for clearing out most corrupt establishments.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 06 2016 01:22 GMT
#79082
regular churning is good for helping with corruption.
Though with congress, I wouldn't say corruption is the prime problem (though there's certainly some of it).
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
haisexer
Profile Joined June 2016
Afghanistan4 Posts
June 06 2016 01:26 GMT
#79083
fuck off back to teamliquid.net op you faggot.

User was temp banned for this post.
hai is better than meteos and bunny
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 06 2016 01:33 GMT
#79084
Someone is not being the person Mr. Rogers knew he could be.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5001 Posts
June 06 2016 01:38 GMT
#79085
We need term limits, that is certainly true.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 06 2016 01:58 GMT
#79086
Term limits sound nice; thoguh I'm not sure they really work out that effectively in practice. IT's quite common for things that sound reasonable to work quite different in practice, or to simply not have the desired benefits.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
June 06 2016 02:34 GMT
#79087
On June 06 2016 10:05 farvacola wrote:
political science majors don't have any money to run for office on

and even if they ran for these small town posisions where they were needed its no where near enough money to begin to think to live off of.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 06 2016 03:22 GMT
#79088
On June 06 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:
I've noticed a bit of that; you'd think all those political science majors would manage to fill such things out reasonably.


Why aren't you running a small town somewhere then?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 03:37:34
June 06 2016 03:34 GMT
#79089
Clinton wins the Porto Rico primary! Once she's "officially" the presumptive nominee by Tuesday, that will allow Obama, Biden, etc., to campaign for her (or perhaps they'll wait a couple of days for Sanders to officially concede). I can't wait to see the Democrats united and at work together against Trump.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 06 2016 03:39 GMT
#79090
A growing number of Republican lawmakers and strategists fear that Donald Trump’s hostile remarks about minorities and his un­or­tho­dox strategy have imperiled his campaign at the end of a five-week head start on Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton that they hoped would fortify him heading into the general election.

Their concerns increased again Sunday after Trump said he thought a Muslim judge might treat him unfairly because he wants to temporarily ban most foreign Muslims from entering the country. The remark was an expansion on repeated assertions over the past week that an American-born judge overseeing a fraud case against him should recuse himself because of his “Mexican heritage.”

“If it were a Muslim judge, would you also feel like they wouldn’t be able to treat you fairly because of that policy of yours?” host John Dickerson asked on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

“It’s possible, yes. Yeah. That would be possible, absolutely,” Trump replied.

While Republicans credit Trump for making some strides after vanquishing his final GOP opponents last month, many are concerned about repeated comments singling out people for criticism on the basis of race, ethnicity or religion. The attacks in the Trump University case also underscore the extent to which Trump, who is traveling overseas later this month to visit some of his golf courses, commingles his private business interests with his presidential campaign.

Finally, many Republicans are also unnerved by Trump’s decision to continue picking fights with fellow Republicans and to spend time and resources campaigning in California and other Democratic-leaning states that he is extremely unlikely to win in November.

The prevailing view among prominent Republicans is that Trump still has the time and ability to make the necessary course corrections, especially given Clinton’s vulnerabilities. But they see some acute problems in the way he has conducted himself in recent days.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 03:42:23
June 06 2016 03:40 GMT
#79091
On June 06 2016 08:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
Trump's mistake on the Judge wasn't his comment, that's part of his basic strategy, the mistake would appear to be not giving the media something better to jump on after. The judge comment was perfect in that no one is talking about the "fraud", but he needs his next thing for the media to latch onto. He got over the hump on the right by redirecting people to the protests, but the left/media isn't letting go so easily (for obvious reasons). Expect him to say something bombastic Monday that the media can't ignore and then the entirety of the coordinated effort from Hillary and the media will be evaporated by coverage of whatever he says Monday.

So long as people are arguing over whether Trump is racist or not Trump is winning. There are no shortage of white men (or women) that feel like they or their actions have been arbitrarily or inaccurately ascribed to racism and are angry about it, and as Bernie's campaign brought to the forefront, they aren't limited to the right.

So far Hillary's campaign and the DNC have shown me that they don't at all understand what they are up against.



I have to agree, whether its a deliberate or not on Trumps part it does obfuscate the issue quite significantly, especially since hes throwing the Crooked Hillary bombs every chance he gets. I do hope Sanders points it out though given the opportunity.

Still though whats depressing is that all of these tactics rely on people being naive and lacking critical thinking. Sadly that seems to a pretty common theme.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 06 2016 04:23 GMT
#79092
Someone should really tell Bill Clinton to shut up...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 06 2016 07:28 GMT
#79093
Anti-Trump conservatives didn't get their candidate.

David French tweeted Sunday night "after much thought and prayer" he will not be running for president.

French, a writer for the National Review, was courted by members of the Never Trump crowd to mount an independent bid for president, giving Republicans an alternative to Donald Trump.

"I gave it serious thought — as a pretty darn obscure lawyer, writer, and veteran — only because we live in historic times," French wrote for the National Review. "Never before have both parties failed so spectacularly, producing two dishonest, deceitful candidates who should be disqualified from running for town council, much less leader of the free world."

French went on to detail the ways in which he says Hillary Clinton and Trump are habitual liars and unfit to be president.

Source
© Current year.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 06 2016 07:40 GMT
#79094

We?
© Current year.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24134 Posts
June 06 2016 08:27 GMT
#79095
On June 06 2016 16:40 CorsairHero wrote:
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/739571492028092416
We?


Somebody call Trump, I think he just found the first Muslims he's going to ban.



Seriously though, it's no surprise Trump wanted to face Hillary.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
June 06 2016 08:47 GMT
#79096
This coming from someone that won't even say Merry Christmas because it could offend some people.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 06 2016 10:22 GMT
#79097
People getting offended over Happy Holidays and Muslim holidays exist.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
johnsonmilla
Profile Joined May 2016
United States2 Posts
June 06 2016 11:07 GMT
#79098
--- Nuked ---
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 13:03:24
June 06 2016 12:59 GMT
#79099
On June 06 2016 16:40 CorsairHero wrote:
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/739571492028092416
We?


Ramadan is LITERALLY a month of a calendar.

So yes, we are all entering/beginning Ramadan. Like we all entered June, and like we all entered/began the Chinese New Year.

Expect people to not even exercise the basic googling to understand this though! Including someone running for President of the United States who has commented on Sharia Law without putting even an ounce of effort into learning what it is (hint: there are multiple interpretations of it).
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 13:21:28
June 06 2016 13:19 GMT
#79100
On June 06 2016 21:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 16:40 CorsairHero wrote:
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/739571492028092416
We?


Ramadan is LITERALLY a month of a calendar.

So yes, we are all entering/beginning Ramadan. Like we all entered June, and like we all entered/began the Chinese New Year.

Expect people to not even exercise the basic googling to understand this though! Including someone running for President of the United States who has commented on Sharia Law without putting even an ounce of effort into learning what it is (hint: there are multiple interpretations of it).


Actually Sharia Law in of itself is an interpretation, there is nothing divine about it, most of which are agenda driven, and most of the tennets are bullshit political power plays from the middle ages that we are now stuck with and its purported infallibility + Show Spoiler +
(regardless of what school you follow)
coz Saudi Arabia.

Also why is being in a picture with Yasser Arafat a big deal ?
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