EPTOn June 06 2016 12:22 IgnE wrote:
Why aren't you running a small town somewhere then?
Why aren't you running a small town somewhere then?
because I'm not a poli sci major, not even a minor.
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zlefin
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because I'm not a poli sci major, not even a minor. | ||
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Plansix
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On June 06 2016 22:19 Rebs wrote: Actually Sharia Law in of itself is an interpretation, there is nothing divine about it, most of which are agenda driven, and most of the tennets are bullshit political power plays from the middle ages that we are now stuck with and its purported infallibility + Show Spoiler + (regardless of what school you follow) Also why is being in a picture with Yasser Arafat a big deal ? He was a known terrorist supporter, but also was the dude you needed to meet with to try to work towards peace in Israel. And peace talks are really weird if you refuse smile in a photo or treat the person like a leaper. “I am here to talk about peace, but no photos please. Just in case this doesn’t work out and we can’t make a deal. My wife might want to run for president in 2008 and 2016.” | ||
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maybe that'll be the title of her next memoir | ||
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On June 06 2016 13:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Someone should really tell Bill Clinton to shut up... He's only going to get worse when that new book from the former Secret Service Agent comes out at the end of the month. | ||
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SK.Testie
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On June 06 2016 22:39 Mohdoo wrote: god damn bill is an idiot Couldn't this also be a good idea? Rather than taking in the radical far left, isn't this a message that the Clintons are going to stick to their more centrist way? Pretty sure the Sanders are so on the progressive train that they're forced to vote for the Clintons anyway. Just by the SCOTUS nominations alone they are forced into Clintons camp. She quite literally does not have to pander to them. | ||
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Mohdoo
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On June 06 2016 21:59 TheTenthDoc wrote: Ramadan is LITERALLY a month of a calendar. So yes, we are all entering/beginning Ramadan. Like we all entered June, and like we all entered/began the Chinese New Year.\ I entered June. I will not be entering Ramadan because it is meaningless to me. Just because a large group of people is expressing their beliefs, it does not mean "we" are a part of it. I want nothing to do with Ramadan. | ||
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Plansix
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On June 06 2016 22:41 Mohdoo wrote: I entered June. I will not be entering Ramadan because it is meaningless to me. Just because a large group of people is expressing their beliefs, it does not mean "we" are a part of it. I want nothing to do with Ramadan. That is fine. But using the word "we" to reference the people who do care is perfectly fine as well. No one needs to be upset about it. | ||
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On June 06 2016 22:42 Plansix wrote: Apparently the book claims that she gave Bill Clinton a black eye at one point and everyone was scared of her. Weirdly enough, all the article just call him the “secret service agent” rather than his name. I also can’t find out who he was assigned to or any real details of his time with the secret service. This is not the first “tell all book” released leading up the an election and it won’t be the last. People gotta get paid. That is fine. But using the word "we" to reference the people who do care is perfectly fine as well. No one needs to be upset about it. I'm fine with what Clinton said. Was less fine with what TheTenthDoc said. | ||
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Velr
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If i wanted to wish someone a nice time, i would do exactly that? Like: Have a nice day, merry christmass or "whatever is appropriate" Ramadan. But well, being upset about this, seems pretty ridiculous to me. | ||
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On June 06 2016 12:34 kwizach wrote: Clinton wins the Porto Rico primary! Once she's "officially" the presumptive nominee by Tuesday, that will allow Obama, Biden, etc., to campaign for her (or perhaps they'll wait a couple of days for Sanders to officially concede). I can't wait to see the Democrats united and at work together against Trump. Can't wait to see a united work effort towards war, pauperization of large parts of the population, pseudo progessive programs and US hegemony either! | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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On June 06 2016 22:41 Mohdoo wrote: I entered June. I will not be entering Ramadan because it is meaningless to me. Just because a large group of people is expressing their beliefs, it does not mean "we" are a part of it. I want nothing to do with Ramadan. It's a calendar month. It has nothing to do with beliefs beyond what people who don't know what it is think it does. The word for the month in that calendar is "Ramadan." We also begin Tammuz, Sivan, Μάρτιος, and the like. I mean if I was in Israel I wouldn't get upset about someone posting about beginning July. And no, just because the calendar is used by or organized around a religion doesn't mean the months in that calendar are inherently religious. Otherwise we're all forcing a Christian calendar on people when we discussed entering a new millenium. | ||
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On June 06 2016 23:29 TheTenthDoc wrote: I mean, it's a calendar month. It has nothing to do with beliefs beyond what people who don't know what it is think it does. The word for the month in that calendar is "Ramadan." We also begin Tammuz, Sivan, Μάρτιος, and the like. I mean if I was in Israel I wouldn't get upset about someone posting about beginning July. The title "Ramadan" is associated with a set of beliefs which I find to be disagreeable. I do not even slightly identify with Ramadan and do not recognize myself as entering into it. I am entering into an interval of time and I do not recognize the label of "Ramadan" being associated with it. On June 06 2016 23:32 Plansix wrote: It comes down to being polite. The president represents everyone in the country. So we, collectively, as a nation enter the Ramadan. Much like the nation enters the Christmas season. I am not Jewish, but I have celebrated a number of Jewish with a good friend of mine and his family. If anything, the tweet reminded me to call a couple of our friends and find out what they are doing for Ramadan. Yeah, it's fine for a president/leader saying this because they are talking to the entire country and "we" means everyone for them. It is not the same situation for us. | ||
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GoTuNk!
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On June 06 2016 23:01 Mohdoo wrote: I'm fine with what Clinton said. Was less fine with what TheTenthDoc said. It is odd by someone who will reluctantly say merry christmas. Everything that politicians do and say means something. "We" implies she celebrates the Ramadan ? Did she wish happy hannukah/eastern recently? | ||
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Plansix
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On June 06 2016 23:32 Mohdoo wrote: The title "Ramadan" is associated with a set of beliefs which I find to be disagreeable. I do not even slightly identify with Ramadan and do not recognize myself as entering into it. I am entering into an interval of time and I do not recognize the label of "Ramadan" being associated with it. That’s nice? Mr. Rogers would say it’s ok to have those feelings, but not to be mean because of them. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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On June 06 2016 23:32 Mohdoo wrote: The title "Ramadan" is associated with a set of beliefs which I find to be disagreeable. I do not even slightly identify with Ramadan and do not recognize myself as entering into it. I am entering into an interval of time and I do not recognize the label of "Ramadan" being associated with it. Yeah, it's fine for a president/leader saying this because they are talking to the entire country and "we" means everyone for them. It is not the same situation for us. The title "before Christ" is associated with a set of beliefs I find to be disagreeable, but I won't complain about people saying we're entering a new decade in 2021. You aren't celebrating Ramadan, but saying you aren't entering it or beginning it is like saying you aren't starting June. It's just a factual statement, like "I'm breathing." Edit: I mean you're 100% within your rights to find the people who use the calendar disagreeable, there's nothing wrong with that, and you're also within your rights to not celebrate the holiday associated with the month. It's just weird to conflate the two so forcefully in my mind; I don't think of the dates on the Jewish calendar that contain Passover or Hanukkah as the same as the holidays themselves, ya know? | ||
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