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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 02:44:56
February 02 2016 02:41 GMT
#56381
On February 02 2016 11:35 darthfoley wrote:
well this is disappointing for me and for sanders


Wha? 50-50 is a win for Bernie, Hillary has been favored to win outright for the whole campaign. Plus he's going to blow her out in NH.

Not sure how O'Malley can justify staying in being in debt and getting 0% out of Iowa.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4744 Posts
February 02 2016 02:42 GMT
#56382
Everyone on the GOP side obsessed with Rubio still lmao. Tomorrow's news has already been written!
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 02 2016 02:42 GMT
#56383
fuck cruz
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 02 2016 02:44 GMT
#56384
https://twitter.com/chucktodd/status/694347080286887937?s=09
Freeeeeeedom
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4744 Posts
February 02 2016 02:45 GMT
#56385
On February 02 2016 11:44 cLutZ wrote:
https://twitter.com/chucktodd/status/694347080286887937?s=09


It's too perfect. I didn't think Trump would appeal to moderates as much, but he hasn't even been hiding it as time has gone on, so I guess it's not a surprise at this point.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 02 2016 02:46 GMT
#56386
On February 02 2016 11:35 darthfoley wrote:
well this is disappointing for me and for sanders

He was never going to crush Clinton outright. People who believed that were delusional.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 02:50:02
February 02 2016 02:47 GMT
#56387
caucuses are fun. Bad for bernie. he needed as much momentum early as he could. Bad for Trump since people are going to see him as not for real or being overblown. also Ted Cruz is a moron.

https://twitter.com/FernandoPeinado/status/694345745420320768/video/1


"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 02 2016 02:48 GMT
#56388
On February 02 2016 11:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:35 darthfoley wrote:
well this is disappointing for me and for sanders

He was never going to crush Clinton outright. People who believed that were delusional.


I never said he would crush her. I was just hoping he'd be on the right side of the 50.7-48.7

@GH I think Bernie needs to win IA because the media is just going to write him off as "See, we told you so!" and I don't like that.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4744 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 02:49:20
February 02 2016 02:48 GMT
#56389
I think there is something likable about the idea (caucus). Citizen interaction and all that.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
February 02 2016 02:50 GMT
#56390
I'm on track to win both of my bar bets.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 02:52:03
February 02 2016 02:50 GMT
#56391
On February 02 2016 11:48 Introvert wrote:
I think there is something likable about the idea (caucus). Citizen interaction and all that.


I like the idea but its prob a mess. on 538 there actually discussion caucuses right now.

also carson cant even make good excuses anymore. remember when he was leading polls? lol
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 02:54:57
February 02 2016 02:52 GMT
#56392
from bbc

Ben Carson going home for 'a fresh set of clothes'


The Carson campaign has released a statement to dispel reports that the retired neurosurgeon was dropping out of the race. However, Mr Carson said he was leaving the campaign trail and returning to his home in Florida for "a fresh set of clothes", raising eyebrows among journalists.


also cruz's percentage slowly going down but dont think itll matter in the end.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
February 02 2016 02:54 GMT
#56393
On February 02 2016 11:48 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:46 Plansix wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:35 darthfoley wrote:
well this is disappointing for me and for sanders

He was never going to crush Clinton outright. People who believed that were delusional.


I never said he would crush her. I was just hoping he'd be on the right side of the 50.7-48.7

@GH I think Bernie needs to win IA because the media is just going to write him off as "See, we told you so!" and I don't like that.


That last 30% favors Bernie heavy. It's not too late for Iowans to turn it around.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
February 02 2016 02:55 GMT
#56394
On February 02 2016 11:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:48 darthfoley wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:46 Plansix wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:35 darthfoley wrote:
well this is disappointing for me and for sanders

He was never going to crush Clinton outright. People who believed that were delusional.


I never said he would crush her. I was just hoping he'd be on the right side of the 50.7-48.7

@GH I think Bernie needs to win IA because the media is just going to write him off as "See, we told you so!" and I don't like that.


That last 30% favors Bernie heavy. It's not too late for Iowans to turn it around.


thats not what 538 said 15 minutes ago
The Democratic race looks extremely close, with Clinton leading Sanders 51 percent to 48 percent. BUT, it’s going to be very difficult for Sanders to make up that deficit. There simply aren’t a lot of “Bernie blowout” zones. In very liberal, academic Iowa City (Johnson County), Bernie is leading by 15 percentage points, but that’s not as huge a lead as he might have expected there. And his leads elsewhere aren’t nearly as large. Plus, there’s still a good chunk of Clinton-friendly Polk (Des Moines) still out.
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4744 Posts
February 02 2016 02:55 GMT
#56395
On February 02 2016 11:52 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
from bbc

Show nested quote +
Ben Carson going home for 'a fresh set of clothes'


The Carson campaign has released a statement to dispel reports that the retired neurosurgeon was dropping out of the race. However, Mr Carson said he was leaving the campaign trail and returning to his home in Florida for "a fresh set of clothes", raising eyebrows among journalists.


also cruz's percentage slowly going down but dont think itll matter in the end.


So has Trump's. Prob most going to Rubio.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
February 02 2016 02:57 GMT
#56396
Martin O'Malley's campaign is over. He's going to announce it later.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 03:00:47
February 02 2016 02:58 GMT
#56397
On February 02 2016 11:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
Martin O'Malley's campaign is over. He's going to announce it later.


Martin O'Malley's campaign has been over since before it begun

yeah rubio making a play for 2nd right now. still 3.1 percent behind though so basically same trump is behind cruz.

Bernie staying about same which is bad since theres less and less left for him to make up the gap
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4744 Posts
February 02 2016 02:59 GMT
#56398
In a dream world, I'd love to see Rubio beat Trump. It's about the same distance from Cruz -> Trump -> Rubio.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
February 02 2016 02:59 GMT
#56399
I haven't seen any good analysis on the nature of final precincts. Like, any chance pcts turn around due to demographics etc.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 03:04:44
February 02 2016 02:59 GMT
#56400
Anyone know how CNN went from 69% reporting to 63%?

On February 02 2016 11:59 frazzle wrote:
I haven't seen any good analysis on the nature of final precincts. Like, any chance pcts turn around due to demographics etc.


Definitely on the Dem side. They favor Bernie as they are the more populous and college areas.

Huckabee and Santorum are going to drop out after this. Probably Fiorina and Gilmore (10 votes) too haha.

O'Malley was viable somewhere! Also Hillary is down to 50%.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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