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trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
February 02 2016 01:50 GMT
#56361
That's absurd. Trump isn't running to make money. In fact, if you read my post, it doesn't matter at all why Trump himself things he is running.

Fact is, people are going to drop out of the republican race, because they are out of money, not because they are low in the polls. Trump can just continue.

Obviously he is a loose cannon and isn't calling his corporate friends to ask them what to say.

Once the corporate world starts to fight itself/ fight the US president, people will take heed and get pissed and do something. Once their country is really going to shit, maybe they will take action.

The slow pace it has now, people will stay indifferent.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 02 2016 01:50 GMT
#56362
nah it is actually good that he doesn't rely on outside money.

but why go trump when that is a concern, go bloomberg
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 01:56:55
February 02 2016 01:54 GMT
#56363
His tax plan is nothing but a gift for high income earners (taxes down to 25%, eliminate estate taxes etc..), so I don't exactly understand the notion that he is a man of the people
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
February 02 2016 01:55 GMT
#56364
On February 02 2016 10:54 Nyxisto wrote:
His tax plan is nothing but a gift for high income earners, so I don't exactly understand the notion that he is a man of the people


The people that are corporations, duh...
Yargh
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
February 02 2016 01:57 GMT
#56365
I have yet to see Trump's economical plan of creating more jobs for Americans.

But I have seen enough of Bernie Sanders to know that he will drive out the top corporations into foreign lands and thus will hemorrhage jobs from American with his tax plans.

And Hillary Clinton will not be the dem's nominee due to her incompetence and public's distrust of her.

It is a shame that Rand Paul fell to Trump's abrasiveness and played the aggressive game instead of focusing on his plan because I think Rand Paul is the best candidate out of everyone there.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
February 02 2016 01:59 GMT
#56366
Don't worry, Trump will force corporations to work in the US. Somehow.
Yargh
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 02:04:29
February 02 2016 01:59 GMT
#56367
On February 02 2016 10:54 Nyxisto wrote:
His tax plan is nothing but a gift for high income earners (taxes down to 25%, eliminate estate taxes etc..), so I don't exactly understand the notion that he is a man of the people


Are you even reading?


When capitalism collapses for sure and money loses all value, like in 2008 when the bankers who caused the crash thought it would to such an extent they called their wives to take the money off the bank and buy food, gasoline and guns, I'd rather not be 75 years old. Trump can save me from that fate.




Right now very excited to see democracy 'live in action' on CNN. lol
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 02:04:35
February 02 2016 02:04 GMT
#56368
anyway

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/data/election-calendar/

hilldawg leading

MARTIN O'MALLEY
DELEGATES: 0
VOTES: 1

LOL
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 02 2016 02:06 GMT
#56369
On February 02 2016 10:59 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 10:54 Nyxisto wrote:
His tax plan is nothing but a gift for high income earners (taxes down to 25%, eliminate estate taxes etc..), so I don't exactly understand the notion that he is a man of the people


Are you even reading?


When capitalism collapses for sure and money loses all value, like in 2008 when the bankers who caused the crash thought it would to such an extent they called their wives to take the money off the bank and buy food, gasoline and guns, I'd rather not be 75 years old. Trump can save me from that fate.




Right now very excited to see democracy 'live in action' on CNN. lol

He is reading. He is treating your posts with the exact level of discourse they deserve.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9003 Posts
February 02 2016 02:15 GMT
#56370
I'm voting for O'Malley. From what I've seen and read, he's in the middle of Clinton and Sanders. Just not popular with voters. If he could piggy-back off of Sander's enthusiastic young crowd, and manage to convince the old people they can keep medicare/medicaid and their pensions by cracking down hard on wall st, he could pull it off.

I'll keep an eye out to see if he continues on the path for the nomination.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
February 02 2016 02:17 GMT
#56371
go trump 2016.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9003 Posts
February 02 2016 02:18 GMT
#56372
Entrance Poll Breakdown

Not sure how telling this is for any of the candidates. But it seems accurate so far.
CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
February 02 2016 02:19 GMT
#56373
On February 02 2016 11:15 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I'm voting for O'Malley. From what I've seen and read, he's in the middle of Clinton and Sanders. Just not popular with voters. If he could piggy-back off of Sander's enthusiastic young crowd, and manage to convince the old people they can keep medicare/medicaid and their pensions by cracking down hard on wall st, he could pull it off.

I'll keep an eye out to see if he continues on the path for the nomination.


I like how he is a good looking mainstream Democrat with low baggage weight. He also lifts.
Dun tuch my cheezbrgr
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 02 2016 02:19 GMT
#56374
On February 02 2016 11:04 oneofthem wrote:
anyway

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/data/election-calendar/

hilldawg leading

MARTIN O'MALLEY
DELEGATES: 0
VOTES: 1

LOL

How is it that over 40% of democrat precincts are reporting but less than 1000 votes have been counted?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 02 2016 02:21 GMT
#56375
On February 02 2016 11:18 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Entrance Poll Breakdown

Not sure how telling this is for any of the candidates. But it seems accurate so far.

college dropouts favor sanders, postgrads favor clinton.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 02 2016 02:22 GMT
#56376
On February 02 2016 11:19 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:04 oneofthem wrote:
anyway

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/data/election-calendar/

hilldawg leading

MARTIN O'MALLEY
DELEGATES: 0
VOTES: 1

LOL

How is it that over 40% of democrat precincts are reporting but less than 1000 votes have been counted?

probably rural places
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23305 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 02:26:11
February 02 2016 02:24 GMT
#56377
On February 02 2016 11:19 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:04 oneofthem wrote:
anyway

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/data/election-calendar/

hilldawg leading

MARTIN O'MALLEY
DELEGATES: 0
VOTES: 1

LOL

How is it that over 40% of democrat precincts are reporting but less than 1000 votes have been counted?


It's complicated on the Dem side. Those are the numbers for the delegates going on to higher caucuses within the state. No idea why they say "votes" though.

Hillary should be leading in the smaller caucuses that were able to get their counts faster. Probably will lose about 5 points by the end.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
February 02 2016 02:28 GMT
#56378
On February 02 2016 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:04 oneofthem wrote:
anyway

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/data/election-calendar/

hilldawg leading

MARTIN O'MALLEY
DELEGATES: 0
VOTES: 1

LOL

How is it that over 40% of democrat precincts are reporting but less than 1000 votes have been counted?


It's complicated on the Dem side. Those are the numbers for the delegates going on to higher caucuses within the state. No idea why they say "votes" though.

Hillary should be leading in the smaller caucuses that were able to get their counts faster. Probably will lose about 5 points by the end.


Isn't it something like this:

Republicans: names on pieces of paper in a bucket.
Democrats: yelling and shouting at each other until two yelling groups are made in an auditorium and then counted by hand.
Dun tuch my cheezbrgr
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23305 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 02:34:12
February 02 2016 02:30 GMT
#56379
On February 02 2016 11:28 CannonsNCarriers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:04 oneofthem wrote:
anyway

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/data/election-calendar/

hilldawg leading

MARTIN O'MALLEY
DELEGATES: 0
VOTES: 1

LOL

How is it that over 40% of democrat precincts are reporting but less than 1000 votes have been counted?


It's complicated on the Dem side. Those are the numbers for the delegates going on to higher caucuses within the state. No idea why they say "votes" though.

Hillary should be leading in the smaller caucuses that were able to get their counts faster. Probably will lose about 5 points by the end.


Isn't it something like this:

Republicans: names on pieces of paper in a bucket.
Democrats: yelling and shouting at each other until two yelling groups are made in an auditorium and then counted by hand.


For larger caucuses they use paper on the Dem side too but there is still the "yelling" and standing/sitting on different sides.

Marco Rubio will be the establishment candidate.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 02 2016 02:35 GMT
#56380
well this is disappointing for me and for sanders
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
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