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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42636 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 20:14:11
February 01 2016 18:44 GMT
#56301
Any. I checked the odds on a betting site and Hillary is favoured. I'll simply bet on Hillary with GH 1:1 and then counter it with a bet on BS where the winnings equal my bet with GH on a betting site.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 18:49:07
February 01 2016 18:46 GMT
#56302
On February 02 2016 03:40 oneofthem wrote:
why is omalley in the poll lmao i misclicked it


My OCD had me put 3 people in each contest.
On February 02 2016 03:44 KwarK wrote:
Any. I checked the odds on a betting site and Hillary is favoured. I'll simply bet on Hillary with GH 1:1 and then counter it with a bet on BH where the winnings equal my bet with GH on a betting site.


Lmao the hedge
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
February 01 2016 19:38 GMT
#56303
Who in the hell is predicting Rubio to win the Iowa caucus!?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 20:02:15
February 01 2016 20:00 GMT
#56304
rubio got mad numbers in the latest polls (i didn't vote for him though)
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 01 2016 20:18 GMT
#56305
On February 02 2016 04:38 Mohdoo wrote:
Who in the hell is predicting Rubio to win the Iowa caucus!?

i misclicked that too but on purpose
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 01 2016 20:19 GMT
#56306
He's had a surge but I've got my fingers crossed that it's a statistical blip and he still finishes a distant third (I want the madhouse to continue).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 01 2016 20:23 GMT
#56307
Rubio has good polling the last few weeks, I think some of the establishment is coalescing around him and if anything momentum has been important in Iowa and if anyone's got that it's him.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 20:28:10
February 01 2016 20:27 GMT
#56308
I hope Rand Paul and O'Malley win the caucuses.

Where are your poll gods now???
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 01 2016 20:27 GMT
#56309
On February 02 2016 05:19 Seuss wrote:
He's had a surge but I've got my fingers crossed that it's a statistical blip and he still finishes a distant third (I want the madhouse to continue).

I want it to end and for the clown show to finally stop. Him coming in second would be amazing since it would at least renew my faith in the more moderate part of the GOP and make the last 7 months of news coverage look terrible.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23214 Posts
February 01 2016 20:29 GMT
#56310
On February 02 2016 03:44 KwarK wrote:
Any. I checked the odds on a betting site and Hillary is favoured. I'll simply bet on Hillary with GH 1:1 and then counter it with a bet on BS where the winnings equal my bet with GH on a betting site.


Kwark and your crazy maths.

Still ready for that sig bet though.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 20:31:11
February 01 2016 20:30 GMT
#56311
On February 02 2016 05:27 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I hope Rand Paul and O'Malley win the caucuses.

Where are your poll gods now???


E Plebius Unum

In Nate Silver we trust
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23214 Posts
February 01 2016 20:40 GMT
#56312
On February 02 2016 05:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 05:27 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I hope Rand Paul and O'Malley win the caucuses.

Where are your poll gods now???


E Plebius Unum

In Nate Silver we trust


I mean they have an explanation already for why being wildly wrong wouldn't be their fault, but I'm predicting this will be the most wrong Nate and crew have been about an election.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 01 2016 20:42 GMT
#56313
I thought they weren't even predicting the primaries because Silver relies on polling, and polling is dead.
Freeeeeeedom
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
February 01 2016 20:46 GMT
#56314
On February 02 2016 05:42 cLutZ wrote:
I thought they weren't even predicting the primaries because Silver relies on polling, and polling is dead.


If anyone can understand the modeling that needs to be applied to new poling dynamics, it is Nate Silver. Dude has quite the track record.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 20:47:41
February 01 2016 20:46 GMT
#56315
Nate Silver has said that pooling is not as reliable, especially when turn out is since none of the candidates ground game have been tested. They don’t have enough information to predict much at this point. This isn’t science, it politics.

But Silver has been throwing all sorts of shade on the polling for the last 7 months, especially the head to head polling.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10697 Posts
February 01 2016 20:48 GMT
#56316
And if he's not sure enough to make a good guess, well then he only can lose, so why would i put his name on the line?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 20:53:11
February 01 2016 20:51 GMT
#56317
On February 02 2016 05:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Rubio has good polling the last few weeks, I think some of the establishment is coalescing around him and if anything momentum has been important in Iowa and if anyone's got that it's him.


Not so much weeks as days. He was in decline in Iowa up until the 24th, but started gaining ground after that.

I suspect he's gained less ground than the RCP average indicates. He's definitely up 2-4 points from where he was before, but I suspect a lot of what we're seeing is simply polls that have historically favored Rubio (or don't have much history) pushing out polls on the other end of the spectrum.

That could be wishful thinking on my part, but I'm hoping for an extended circus since I believe it might cause the Republican establishment to reevaluate (but that's probably also wishful thinking).

On February 02 2016 05:48 Velr wrote:
And if he's not sure enough to make a good guess, well then he only can lose, so why would i put his name on the line?


Fivethirtyeight.com has up to date probabilities for Iowa and New Hampshire. The problem isn't Nate Silver's models at the moment, it's that his models don't have a conclusive winner for the Republican primary in Iowa.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 01 2016 20:51 GMT
#56318
The best pollsters are the ones who tell you when they don’t have enough information. Anyone can make a guess based on the information presented to them.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 20:53:03
February 01 2016 20:51 GMT
#56319
nate silver isn't doing some crazy model it is just polls and stuff like endorsements. wouldn't really call it a model at all. he just had a platform.

i was telling you guys the polling numbers are a joke for a long time but you gotta go to silver to learn this apparently
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
February 01 2016 21:01 GMT
#56320
On February 02 2016 05:51 oneofthem wrote:
nate silver isn't doing some crazy model it is just polls and stuff like endorsements. wouldn't really call it a model at all. he just had a platform.

i was telling you guys the polling numbers are a joke for a long time but you gotta go to silver to learn this apparently


I think it is fair to note that Nate Silver was distinguished in his analysis of 2008 and 2012.
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