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On January 29 2016 13:46 Deathstar wrote: The Bush family is known to be against Cruz so I don't know what that tweet is supposed to mean. Cruz is slimey but he's more respectable than Jeb Bush will ever be.
There are a lot of stories about how everyone hates Cruz. Like everyone he has ever worked with, come in contact with, dealt with him, passed him on the street. It sort of amazing how consistent Cruz is with making everyone loath him.
Yup, i usually criticize US police for being triggerhappy, but in this case i would've shot as well. I love how the police states that apparently he was hit "in the single digits" though, i'm confused as to what that's supposed to mean. Are they proud of that, or sorry?
PS: "on his knees, hands in the air". Right.
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That painting, i love how his hair on that painting does not even remotely resemble the flimsy cobweb-noodles he has flopping around on his head.
Just sad how the predictable certain types immediately crafted their own fact free versions of what happened to the guy. So many want to believe so badly in such trash conspiracies, including Tarp Man himself, leading to his senseless death. smh
Yup, i usually criticize US police for being triggerhappy, but in this case i would've shot as well. I love how the police states that apparently he was hit "in the single digits" though, i'm confused as to what that's supposed to mean. Are they proud of that, or sorry?
PS: "on his knees, hands in the air". Right.
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That painting, i love how his hair on that painting does not even remotely resemble the flimsy cobweb-noodles he has flopping around on his head.
Yeah, that seems pretty justified. To bad it won't matter to those who have already declared him a martyr. They will believe whatever fits their narrative regardless of reality.
Yup, i usually criticize US police for being triggerhappy, but in this case i would've shot as well. I love how the police states that apparently he was hit "in the single digits" though, i'm confused as to what that's supposed to mean. Are they proud of that, or sorry?
PS: "on his knees, hands in the air". Right.
edit:
That painting, i love how his hair on that painting does not even remotely resemble the flimsy cobweb-noodles he has flopping around on his head.
Yeah, that seems pretty justified. To bad it won't matter to those who have already declared him a martyr. They will believe whatever fits their narrative regardless of reality.
“He stepped out, and he started walking, with his hands in the air. And they actually didn’t shoot him immediately. It took, I’m guessing, they didn’t shoot him for maybe 15 seconds,” she said. “He started walking out on the snow and he was shouting. He was saying, ‘if you’re going to shoot me, then just shoot me’.”
Finicum was one of the most vocal and colorful faces of the occupiers, a father and rancher who wore a cowboy hat and carried a gun on his hip. He usually wore a gun in a holster, and he did that day, Sharp said.
“I’m not sure if it was a hip holster or a leg holster, but I know the gun was holstered and he did not touch it. He had his hands in the air,” she said.
Yeah. I mean.. I don't know. The video is out there, uncut etc (which was a good move i might add), yet one of those cowboys/girls is either so detached from reality that she, even though she watched it allegedly (i personally don't see her though), or blatantly lying. You can also tell that the policeman in finicums back tried to stop him, he saw it coming.
Yup, i usually criticize US police for being triggerhappy, but in this case i would've shot as well. I love how the police states that apparently he was hit "in the single digits" though, i'm confused as to what that's supposed to mean. Are they proud of that, or sorry?
PS: "on his knees, hands in the air". Right.
edit:
That painting, i love how his hair on that painting does not even remotely resemble the flimsy cobweb-noodles he has flopping around on his head.
Yeah, that seems pretty justified. To bad it won't matter to those who have already declared him a martyr. They will believe whatever fits their narrative regardless of reality.
“He stepped out, and he started walking, with his hands in the air. And they actually didn’t shoot him immediately. It took, I’m guessing, they didn’t shoot him for maybe 15 seconds,” she said. “He started walking out on the snow and he was shouting. He was saying, ‘if you’re going to shoot me, then just shoot me’.”
Finicum was one of the most vocal and colorful faces of the occupiers, a father and rancher who wore a cowboy hat and carried a gun on his hip. He usually wore a gun in a holster, and he did that day, Sharp said.
“I’m not sure if it was a hip holster or a leg holster, but I know the gun was holstered and he did not touch it. He had his hands in the air,” she said.
Yeah. I mean.. I don't know. The video is out there, uncut etc (which was a good move i might add), yet one of those cowboys/girls is either so detached from reality that she, even though she watched it (she jumped out of the car after that guy), doesn't recall it correctly but her borked version - or is blatantly lying.
Either way, you're right.
Its a lot more comforting to tell yourself the bad police shot your innocent father then admit he commit suicide by going for his gun.
Yup, i usually criticize US police for being triggerhappy, but in this case i would've shot as well. I love how the police states that apparently he was hit "in the single digits" though, i'm confused as to what that's supposed to mean. Are they proud of that, or sorry?
PS: "on his knees, hands in the air". Right.
edit:
That painting, i love how his hair on that painting does not even remotely resemble the flimsy cobweb-noodles he has flopping around on his head.
Yeah, that seems pretty justified. To bad it won't matter to those who have already declared him a martyr. They will believe whatever fits their narrative regardless of reality.
“He stepped out, and he started walking, with his hands in the air. And they actually didn’t shoot him immediately. It took, I’m guessing, they didn’t shoot him for maybe 15 seconds,” she said. “He started walking out on the snow and he was shouting. He was saying, ‘if you’re going to shoot me, then just shoot me’.”
Finicum was one of the most vocal and colorful faces of the occupiers, a father and rancher who wore a cowboy hat and carried a gun on his hip. He usually wore a gun in a holster, and he did that day, Sharp said.
“I’m not sure if it was a hip holster or a leg holster, but I know the gun was holstered and he did not touch it. He had his hands in the air,” she said.
Yeah. I mean.. I don't know. The video is out there, uncut etc (which was a good move i might add), yet one of those cowboys/girls is either so detached from reality that she, even though she watched it (she jumped out of the car after that guy), doesn't recall it correctly but her borked version - or is blatantly lying.
Either way, you're right.
Its a lot more comforting to tell yourself the bad police shot your innocent father then admit he commit suicide by going for his gun.
Well..
"Based on some things that I've seen, I think there is potentially a completely different side to the story compared to what is being represented," Finicum family attorney Todd Macfarlane told Reuters earlier in the afternoon.
I kinda made my mind up, i have to say - wasn't that guy also the one that said "they won't catch me alive" or something similar?
RENO, Nev. (AP) — The governor of gold-rich Nevada is pressing the Obama administration to alter its sage grouse protection plan to free up thousands of mining claims by shrinking the restricted area in exchange for making other unprotected areas off limits, restoring burned out rangeland and reining in wild horse herds.
Gov. Brian Sandoval maintains his alternative would exclude only about 6 percent of the federal land the government has temporarily withdrawn from future mineral development in Nevada. Previously unverified mining claims in the state are effectively frozen across 4,200 square miles — a swath nearly as large as Connecticut.
The moderate Republican wants to swap about one-fifth of the withdrawn area, some 555,000 acres, for 394,000 alternative acres he says contain higher quality habitat more critical to the survival of the imperiled bird, according to interviews with his aides and documents obtained by The Associated Press.
Interior Secretary Sally Jewell decided in September the greater sage grouse didn't warrant Endangered Species Act protection across 11 western states, where its numbers once totaling an estimated 16 million have dwindled to as few as 200,000.
But almost simultaneously, the Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management adopted new regulations restricting development around grouse habitat that some critics say are just as onerous as endangered species protection for ranchers, miners and others.
Jewell also initiated a 2-year ban on new mining exploration in grouse habitat while the government studies whether tens of thousands of square miles across the West should be withdrawn from potential "mineral entry" for another 10 years.
In a Jan. 15 letter to BLM Director Neil Kornze, Sandoval argued a more effective way to protect the chicken-sized bird is to step up wildfire restoration and reduce "out-of-control" mustang populations. He says there's no scientific basis for the mining withdrawal, but asks that if necessary, it be limited to a maximum of five years. He also urged federal officials to clarify their "confusing" definition of "valid existing claims," which Jewell insists are exempt.
In detailed comments attached to the letter, Sandoval's office outlined the plan he says would protect 49 additional leks — the bird's traditional breeding grounds — while dropping protection of five others in the government blueprint.
Slightly shifting protection boundaries based on new maps would release all but 1 percent of the 3,726 mining claims currently in limbo in the biggest U.S. gold-producing state, he said.
On January 29 2016 13:46 Deathstar wrote: The Bush family is known to be against Cruz so I don't know what that tweet is supposed to mean. Cruz is slimey but he's more respectable than Jeb Bush will ever be.
NEW ORLEANS (AP) — A federal judge's ruling Tuesday allows the city to move ahead with plans to remove prominent Confederate monuments from the city's streets, and delivers a blow to preservationists and a chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
U.S. District Judge Carl Barbier ruled against a collection of groups seeking to block the removal of four monuments, including a towering marble column and bronze statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee, a landmark on the cityscape.
In December, the City Council voted 6-1 to remove the monuments. The move is one of the boldest statements yet by an American city to sever ties with its Confederate past, and it has sparked strong emotions in this Deep South city where tensions over the Civil War still run deep.
Barbier, though, said his ruling was based on the law, not on passions.
"The Court is well aware of the emotion and passions that are involved in this case," Barbier wrote in his 62-page ruling. "The Court does not judge the wisdom, or lack thereof, of the actions taken by the Mayor or the City."
The city is enforcing an ordinance that allows the removal of monuments considered a public nuisance because they honor ideologies that foster racial, ethnic or religious supremacy and cause vandalism and civic unrest.
Barbier wrote that "the only issue before the Court is a legal one: Does the City's newly passed ordinance violate Plaintiffs' statutory or constitutional rights?"
Barbier knocked down each argument the plaintiffs made and said they "have failed to demonstrate that they will likely succeed on the merits of any of their claims."
The plaintiffs have advanced many arguments; among them, that their constitutional rights had been violated by the process for removal, the ordinance was unlawful and the monuments were protected by historic preservation laws.
On January 29 2016 12:36 cLutZ wrote: *Any primary. Its an off the cuff applause line like, "Millionaires and Billionaires".
*Any Republican primary. I agree it's a suitable off the cuff applause line suitable for Republicans.
So your assertion is that Bernie and Hillary know the Constitutional structure of all the OECD countries?
I've got a fair idea of Brazil, India, China, Japan, Australia, Canada, US, Mexico, UK, France, Germany, Italy, EU, Russia. Enough that I'd get the basics right if asked. You could make a basic infographic covering those pretty easily. Additionally I'm not running for President.
On January 29 2016 12:36 cLutZ wrote: *Any primary. Its an off the cuff applause line like, "Millionaires and Billionaires".
*Any Republican primary. I agree it's a suitable off the cuff applause line suitable for Republicans.
So your assertion is that Bernie and Hillary know the Constitutional structure of all the OECD countries?
I've got a fair idea of Brazil, India, China, Japan, Australia, Canada, US, Mexico, UK, France, Germany, Italy, EU, Russia. Enough that I'd get the basics right if asked. You could make a basic infographic covering those pretty easily. Additionally I'm not running for President.
On January 29 2016 23:21 Mohdoo wrote: Very curious to see post debate polls. Won't be surprised if trump ends up benefitting.
It depends on how much damage Cruz took, and whether that damage translates into votes for Trump or votes for Rubio.
Right now Trump's biggest threat is Rubio placing second in New Hampshire. If that happens, and Rubio places a respectable third in Iowa as expected, Rubio will almost certainly become the establishment frontrunner. That's bad for Trump, he wants the establishment candidates to keep splitting the vote and giving him easy wins in primaries. Trump would much rather Cruz be his chief rival, as the establishment will almost certainly side with Trump if his only viable opponent is Cruz.
So basically Trump's ideal outcome is he wins Iowa and New Hampshire, but Rubio gets beaten by any of Cruz/Jeb/Christie/Kasich in New Hampshire. He'd probably be fine with a narrow loss in Iowa if it meant Cruz became his clear and only rival down the line.
On January 29 2016 23:21 Mohdoo wrote: Very curious to see post debate polls. Won't be surprised if trump ends up benefitting.
There won't be any post debate polls that aren't hugely contaminated by Iowa results, unfortunately; this week's data has almost all been collected. I wouldn't ascribe anything to what happens to poll numbers next cycle to the debates.
WASHINGTON -- Cable customers who are tired of paying through the nose to rent set-top boxes are about to see some serious savings, thanks to a new proposal from the Federal Communications Commission.
The new regulation would open up the set-top box market to consumer choice so that customers could rent or buy devices from providers other than their cable companies. About 99 percent of cable customers currently rent set-top boxes from their cable company. According to a survey commissioned by Sens. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) and Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), cable customers pay an average of $232 a year for those rentals -- a $20 billion market annually, just for set-top box rentals.
Set-top box fees have soared, even as prices for newer technology have plummeted. Consumer payments for set-top boxes are up 185 percent over the past two decades, according to FCC estimates, even as prices for laptops and cell phones have fallen.
Up to $14 billion of the total market is economically pointless profit for cable companies, according to an analysis by the Consumer Federation of America and Public Knowledge, a nonprofit Internet freedom group. Big cable companies including Comcast and Verizon have leveraged their market power to charge prices far higher than what would be permitted in a competitive industry.
Cable companies and their lobbyists are furious about the plan, which the commission is set to vote on Feb. 18. But the proposal didn't emerge from a vacuum. Liberal senators have been pressuring the FCC to act on cable "monopolies" for months. In July, current Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) organized a letter calling on the agency to collect a host of consumer pricing information from cable companies -- a move designed to show that in many regions of the country, households pay arbitrarily high prices due to a lack of other cable options. Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Al Franken (D-Minn.), Markey and Blumenthal all signed on to the letter.
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