US Politics Mega-thread - Page 2796

On January 28 2016 01:10 Mohdoo wrote:
Now there's an interesting take on the potential Trump presidency: Not enough foreign intervention.

So far, this is my take on the trump general election sales pitch:

- Single payer healthcare
- Tariffs added to help American manufacturing
- Tariffs removed from other countries so they buy more of our stuff in exchange for our military support
- Drastically decreasing foreign soldier presence around the world unless they are paying for it
- Ending illegal immigration

On January 28 2016 03:11 Nyxisto wrote:
and all of it fueled by the power of xenophobic ranting. The democrats have been doing it wrong all the time!

On January 28 2016 03:15 Mohdoo wrote:


As Bernie Sanders wins 2016 by a landslide running on a promise to reinstate slavery.

On January 27 2016 17:49 Jibba wrote:

This crap is just meaningless. I absolutely hate that people think Trump is a good business man or negotiator. It's drivel. It's like saying, "In order to win the Indy 500, you're going to need to start the car. There is simply no way to win the Indy 500, without first starting the car and pressing the accelerator."

And people with no business or negotiation experience eat that shit up.

On January 28 2016 03:30 LemOn wrote:
It's pro bookies betting on the whole thing (why Rubio is still second, 2x more likely to win than Cruz) and they don't seem to get skewed by short term 1-2 state polls

The remaining members of the armed militia occupying a wildlife refuge in rural Oregon were deciding whether to surrender or stand their ground on Wednesday after officials killed one of their spokesmen and arrested the main leaders of the protest on a remote highway.

Hours after news broke on Tuesday night that law enforcement officials had fatally shot militiaman LaVoy Finicum, an Arizona rancher, and arrested leader Ammon Bundy and seven others, police began setting up blockades around the Malheur national wildlife refuge.

By early Wednesday morning, heavily armed law enforcement officials were blocking access to the refuge, preventing reporters and some Harney County residents from passing through.

Within the wildlife sanctuary, protesters were debating what to do next, according to militia members and supporters in direct communication with the holdouts.

“They arrested all of the leadership,” occupier Corey Lequieu said on Wednesday. “It’s all up in the air.” Lequieu, a Nevada resident who has been at the occupation for weeks, said the protesters who are still at the refuge became increasingly angry and sad as news spread Tuesday that Finicum was killed and that the main militia leaders were behind bars.

“There are some pretty pissed off people,” said Lequieu, who said he was at the refuge Tuesday night but was driving away Wednesday morning. He declined to say where he was headed or if he planned to return.

Lequieu said the militiamen have not yet decided if they plan to turn themselves in but noted that many are devastated by Finicum’s death, which might motivate their next steps. “It was a setup,” he said of the arrests and fatal shooting. “They were waiting to murder him.”

On January 28 2016 03:50 oBlade wrote:

Skipping the part where we impugn the multibillionaire as a businessman for a second, I've been thinking through Trump's latest thing on the assumption that it is probably more calculated (even if incorrectly calculated) than it might first appear.

I remember he made some stink about an earlier debate, too, right?

Here's what I think's going on:
1) I think he was the last to get a question in debate #6. If he threatened to boycott Monday and then showed up Thursday, the topic on everyone's minds, and one of the fore questions, would probably be "Mr. Trump, oh, you." Making sure he's got attention/focus would be good.

But it actually looks like he won't show up this time.

2) It's the last debate before Iowa and he's polling a head of a large field. The other candidates (mainly Cruz, Rubio) could make gains. But if he's not at this debate, that improvement won't be at his expense. It's like in Final Jeopardy, you don't want to wager so much that if you get it wrong someone else can take first place. Trump would have more to risk in this debate than gain, given the momentum/lead he already has. Now, the chance might be slim of him fucking up this debate if he went, but nevertheless I think that's what's going on, he/his campaign don't think they have anything to gain from this debate, so skip it.

That said, I think these little stunts tend not to work out (in the case of Perot running-not running-then running again, in the case of McCain "suspending" his campaign because of the financial crisis). But in this case it's just one debate, so it seems more tactical, I guess. As always, it'll be interesting to see what happens next.

On January 28 2016 04:54 Mohdoo wrote:


Delicious. God I love this so much. This has been such an excellent example of the futility of militia. The federal government will always win. Have as many guns as you want. At the end of the day, you are powerless to the federal government. Dumb rednecks can't do shit.

On January 28 2016 04:54 Mohdoo wrote:


Delicious. God I love this so much. This has been such an excellent example of the futility of militia. The federal government will always win. Have as many guns as you want. At the end of the day, you are powerless to the federal government. Dumb rednecks can't do shit.

On January 28 2016 05:44 cLutZ wrote:

Aren't they kind of not trying? Like, they are splitting up and carrying out formal business. If they actually were trying they would either A) Occupy a meaningful building and bring months of supplies; or B) Be completely anonymous and commit to a guerrilla strategy seamlessly melding in and out of the population (gathering support if people support the cause and getting exposed if they do not).

On January 28 2016 05:44 cLutZ wrote:

Aren't they kind of not trying? Like, they are splitting up and carrying out formal business. If they actually were trying they would either A) Occupy a meaningful building and bring months of supplies; or B) Be completely anonymous and commit to a guerrilla strategy seamlessly melding in and out of the population (gathering support if people support the cause and getting exposed if they do not).

On January 28 2016 05:36 RenSC2 wrote:
Hey GH, I'll take your sigbet on Trump if you'd like and nobody more prominent steps up. If Trump does not get the Republican nomination, you'll have "Greedo shot first." as your signature from the moment he drops out or loses at the convention until Nov 9th. If he does win, name my signature for when Trump mathematically wins until Nov 9th.

As disappointed as I've been with the Republicans over the last 15 years, I still have enough faith that they'll dump Trump. His boycott is a great time to characterize him as a blowhard wimp. He's afraid of a debate with a hostile moderator. He's going to hide behind veterans, yet he wasn't willing to serve. Get the wimp characterization to stick to someone who tries to project power and he'll be done. This boycott opens up the attack and the Republicans need to latch on like a pit bull.

Also, Trump just did the super villain "I am invincible" speech which is usually followed by a major loss.