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IgnE
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On September 21 2015 06:23 IgnE wrote: You can draw venn diagrams all you want, it doesn't necessarily add meaning to the discussion. What do venn diagrams have to do with logical debate? Unless I'm missing the metaphor here. Also, what point does having the deist headcount serve exactly ? I think the reason your not getting an answer is because frankly it doesnt really matter. But thats not where you want to go with it right ? If you really care so much, find out yourself and then you can share it with everyone with some information that may possibly qualify as useful trivia. | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
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IgnE
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46516 Posts
On September 21 2015 06:26 IgnE wrote: Drawing circles of sets. Look the "Catholic" circle fits entirely in the "Christian" one! I'm glad we agree on that. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On September 21 2015 06:26 IgnE wrote: Drawing circles of sets. Look the "Catholic" circle fits entirely in the "Christian" one! It doesnt ? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46516 Posts
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/how-do-latinos-feel-about-donald-trump--525563459717?cid=sm_fb_lastword | ||
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IgnE
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Please explain. | ||
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Chocolate
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
On September 21 2015 06:28 Chocolate wrote: Are you normally this childish or are you going through a phase? Lol grow up and take it to PMs | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46516 Posts
I think you guys are misunderstanding each other. | ||
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Introvert
United States5044 Posts
On September 21 2015 06:11 Plansix wrote: Its a self proving argument. The founding fathers governed the country by their own values, which happened to be "Judeo-Christian". But they did not write that into the Constitution. They wrote that the people who were elected, and by extension the people as a whole, would decided which the values of the nation. But of course the people who govern also feel the best way to govern is by their values, because they were elected by the people based on that. Exactly the point. No, they didn't write " you shall have no other gods before me" but they were influenced by what many of them believed, and to dismiss all infleunce in that area is wrong. Idk why some people think that J-C values were no where to be found. | ||
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
On September 21 2015 06:28 Chocolate wrote: EDIT I don't want to try to argue with someone who actually rejects logic anymore Please explain to me how self-identification is fully explained by drawing circles of sets? Or how it's relevant to Moltke's post at all? You seem pretty dense for someone so arrogant. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 21 2015 06:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Trump received a 70% negative rating by Latino voters. I'm more surprised it's not lower than higher. http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/how-do-latinos-feel-about-donald-trump--525563459717?cid=sm_fb_lastword Well if you look at the polls from Gallup, they show most Latino's views haven't changed. http://www.gallup.com/poll/184814/hispanics-frown-trump-not-rest-gop-field.aspx I think they don't care about the Republican debates about who is the most hardcore about deporting illegal immigrants, so they don't watch. And the democrats haven't done anything yet. But Trump continues to be unelectable when it comes to the general election. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
The CNN/ORC poll showed Trump, a real estate mogul and former reality TV star, continues to lead the contest with the support of 24 percent of registered voters, down from 32 percent in a previous poll. bit.ly/1OnmXrB ... Speaking to NBC on Sunday, Trump was asked whether he'd accept a Muslim president, and replied: "Some people have said it already happened." reuters on top of still having really bad numbers when it comes to how many people think he's a goon | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46516 Posts
 I feel like Trump peaked right before the second debate, and is going to go downhill because it's becoming more and more obvious to his "fans" that he doesn't know shit. He was much quieter and less in control during the second debate. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 21 2015 06:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Well that's reassuring I feel like Trump peaked right before the second debate, and is going to go downhill because it's becoming more and more obvious to his "fans" that he doesn't know shit. He was much quieter and less in control during the second debate. The closer we get to the primary, the more we enter grown up land. And that isn't where Trump does well. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On September 21 2015 06:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Trump received a 70% negative rating by Latino voters. I'm more surprised it's not lower than higher. http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/how-do-latinos-feel-about-donald-trump--525563459717?cid=sm_fb_lastword But, he said he would win the Latino vote because they love him! Why wouldn't they want to be stigmatized worse than they are, and create a Latino equivalent to the red scare?! | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On September 21 2015 06:18 On_Slaught wrote: I don't know how you're arriving about "carrying about the issues." I'd have to see the source, but reform of an complicated tax system funding an entire sector of lawyers is an issue. I haven't heard what Carson's specific views are on it and how it was articulated. I find this issue-avoidance charge usually reduces to a wide rejection of conservative solutions to the issues. Wake me up when both sides stop saying other ideas don't work, haven't worked int he past, never had a chance of working even theoretically, and won't work in the future.Carson also said he favors a tithe system solely because of the Bible. The fact him and Trump are in the top 3 are proof enough that a large segment of the Republican base simply doesn't care about the issues, or is living in some fantasy land. On September 21 2015 06:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The Republican base certainly cares about perceived onslaughts on the free practice and inculcation of Judeo-Christian values. Lately, this has flared up in religious objections to involvement in other faith's religious ceremonies, and taxpayer support of the sale and distribution of fetal body parts and organs.The Republican party is based on Judeo-Christian principles. The Republican party has by and large limited itself to vocal defense of such principles. I think it's increasingly based upon replacing the management of the three branches and bureaucracy for unknown goals. | ||
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cLutZ
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