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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 19 2015 00:00 GMT
#40861
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?


hopefully not until this kind of thing stops, or are you seriously trying to tell people that this wasn't about racism?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45317 Posts
June 19 2015 00:00 GMT
#40862
On June 19 2015 08:41 zlefin wrote:
In comparing to other first world countries, it must be noted that America has a much higher homicide rate in general (about 5x as much iirc, most other first world countries have homicide rates that are far below the world averages).

Also, in fairness; we shouldn't just look at justifiable homicides in self-defense, as a gun used in self-defense might not cause a death and still have been helpful.


Fewer than 1% are even able to use or threaten to use a gun in self-defense, and I wonder if a thief seeing you wield a gun actually does more harm than good... it could cause an escalation where now the intruder has to shoot you (or risk being shot himself), because you're a clear threat to them.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 19 2015 00:00 GMT
#40863
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45317 Posts
June 19 2015 00:04 GMT
#40864
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?


It's easy to scream racism when racism is prevalent in our country. One can easily point to preferential law enforcement treatment that is given to whites and the countless disproportionate crap that blacks go through when dealing with police. Especially when it comes to guns, it's pretty accurate.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 00:07:11
June 19 2015 00:06 GMT
#40865
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23669 Posts
June 19 2015 00:26 GMT
#40866
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)


"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 19 2015 00:27 GMT
#40867
Not so long ago, critics of Obamacare were warning of death spirals, the risk that too many sick people and not enough healthy ones would sign up for insurance, triggering a cycle of ever higher costs for insurers and steep premium hikes for consumers.

That didn't happen. In fact, a $10 billion cushion that the Affordable Care Act created to protect insurance companies from high-cost patients turned out to be more than needed, the government announced yesterday.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-18/obamacare-patients-cost-insurers-less-than-expected-last-year
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
June 19 2015 00:29 GMT
#40868
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.

You daft? They were talking about the NRA members tending towards being racist and black people getting treated differently when exercising their 2A rights. GOA and JPFO are FAR less ridiculous than the NRA. NRA is for idiots, which is why they tend to be more racist than the average gun owner.
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
June 19 2015 00:32 GMT
#40869
On June 19 2015 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4



Again, that's not talking about pro-2A folks. That's talking about police. Police are notoriously against the 2A anyways. The whole point to what I was responding to are the idiotic people who are trying to tenuously (or more so disingenuous) make it that pro-2A folks are racists. That's what these authoritarian clowns always do. Everything they're against they just scream your racist and shut down any intellectual discussion. It becomes very black and white.

Ok, so we're past the non-sequitur part of this discussion. I think you very well know my feelings about the police (in fact, I'm far more radical than you are, so if you want to go there, let's go there then, but don't bring BS into a topic where it doesn't belong).
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45317 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 00:33:45
June 19 2015 00:33 GMT
#40870
On June 19 2015 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4



Wow and that's even in Oregon...

The black guy has some major balls to even participate in this.

(Obviously, anecdotal evidence is anecdotal... but this seems to be par for the course.)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 19 2015 00:34 GMT
#40871
On June 19 2015 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4



Open carry laws are dumb, but that black guy should have been wearing a vest or something if he was going to do that. He could been killed. Vests are probably illegal.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 19 2015 00:36 GMT
#40872
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.

And Anders Breivik's incident was about multiculturalism?
liftlift > tsm
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 00:39:12
June 19 2015 00:36 GMT
#40873
On June 19 2015 09:29 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.

You daft? They were talking about the NRA members tending towards being racist and black people getting treated differently when exercising their 2A rights. GOA and JPFO are FAR less ridiculous than the NRA. NRA is for idiots, which is why they tend to be more racist than the average gun owner.


Fair enough, but I'll have to disagree that the gist they weren't pushing was that if you're for the 2A you're by association a racist. It's why they mentioned guns, and not the NRA only. There's also a long history with folks like them pushing this ridiculous association fallacy in all sorts of political areas where they have disagreements with 'the other side'. Oh, you're against Government telling people how to run their establishments, you're a racist. Oh, you're a radical on the 1A, you're a misogynistic asshole. It's all very blasé after a while.

PS: Don't get me wrong, I equally dislike the oh, you're against what the State of Israel is doing - you're an anti-Semite, Nazi. That sort of logic doesn't belong anywhere.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23669 Posts
June 19 2015 00:38 GMT
#40874
On June 19 2015 09:34 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4



Open carry laws are dumb, but that black guy should have been wearing a vest or something if he was going to do that. He could been killed. Vests are probably illegal.


Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Not to mention his pregnant wife in the backdrop who easily could of been hit had he fired on the guy with gun.

Acting like the difference in reaction is limited to the police is colossally dumb and I shouldn't even go on about it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
June 19 2015 00:42 GMT
#40875
On June 19 2015 09:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:34 IgnE wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4



Open carry laws are dumb, but that black guy should have been wearing a vest or something if he was going to do that. He could been killed. Vests are probably illegal.


Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Not to mention his pregnant wife in the backdrop who easily could of been hit had he fired on the guy with gun.

Acting like the difference in reaction is limited to the police is colossally dumb and I shouldn't even go on about it.


Again, this is all a non-sequitur. What we were talking about is the discussion of that TV host calling pro-2A folks racist by association. Oh, you're for the 2A, then you're a racist. We weren't talking about the perception of open-carry and the racism/discrimination in how the police/random person views whites versus blacks. If you want to know how I feel about that, it's pretty similar to you, but more radical. I'm all for the disbanding of Government-police forces, especially the non-sense SWAT/DEA stuff. (We can get into security and justice and how it should be administered in another thread if you want)
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 19 2015 00:52 GMT
#40876
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.

And I never said that, got it? I think posters helped you get there. Good talk.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 01:14:13
June 19 2015 01:13 GMT
#40877
The US should just start right now for a long term phase out of gun culture. Go super ham on illegal guns and those found with them while at the same time make smaller changes to discourage buying guns like price increases etc on legal guns to gradually just reduce guns in our society (both legal and illegal). Do this country wide (not just state to state because it renders any legislation moot when people can just go 1 state over to get it).
Never Knows Best.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18855 Posts
June 19 2015 01:17 GMT
#40878
On June 19 2015 10:13 Slaughter wrote:
The US should just start right now for a long term phase out of gun culture. Go super ham on illegal guns and those found with them while at the same time make smaller changes to discourage buying guns like price increases etc on legal guns to gradually just reduce guns in our society (both legal and illegal). Do this country wide (not just state to state because it renders any legislation moot when people can just go 1 state over to get it).

Oh how I wish we could do this. It's gonna take more than affirmative gun policy, it's gonna take education reform and a host of other changes that are going to piss a lot of people off unfortunately. Fuck those people but hey, that's what this country is all about. If we could pass an amendment banning alcohol, we can put the brakes on this wild west bullshit. It won't be easy though.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 19 2015 01:23 GMT
#40879
Should seriously just have the same systems we have in place for cars, and apply them to guns.

Pretty sure insurance costs alone with dissuade people except hobbyists and enthusiasts from them.
liftlift > tsm
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4908 Posts
June 19 2015 01:24 GMT
#40880
Thank heavens we still have our guns and gun rights for a while longer. Still scary that Heller was 5-4, but at least that kept the second amendment alive and useful for much longer.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
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