• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:40
CEST 16:40
KST 23:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) FSL Season 10 Individual Championship WardiTV Spring Cup 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors
Tourneys
[BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 Korean KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1680 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 2044

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2042 2043 2044 2045 2046 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 19 2015 00:00 GMT
#40861
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?


hopefully not until this kind of thing stops, or are you seriously trying to tell people that this wasn't about racism?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45765 Posts
June 19 2015 00:00 GMT
#40862
On June 19 2015 08:41 zlefin wrote:
In comparing to other first world countries, it must be noted that America has a much higher homicide rate in general (about 5x as much iirc, most other first world countries have homicide rates that are far below the world averages).

Also, in fairness; we shouldn't just look at justifiable homicides in self-defense, as a gun used in self-defense might not cause a death and still have been helpful.


Fewer than 1% are even able to use or threaten to use a gun in self-defense, and I wonder if a thief seeing you wield a gun actually does more harm than good... it could cause an escalation where now the intruder has to shoot you (or risk being shot himself), because you're a clear threat to them.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 19 2015 00:00 GMT
#40863
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45765 Posts
June 19 2015 00:04 GMT
#40864
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?


It's easy to scream racism when racism is prevalent in our country. One can easily point to preferential law enforcement treatment that is given to whites and the countless disproportionate crap that blacks go through when dealing with police. Especially when it comes to guns, it's pretty accurate.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 00:07:11
June 19 2015 00:06 GMT
#40865
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23928 Posts
June 19 2015 00:26 GMT
#40866
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)


"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 19 2015 00:27 GMT
#40867
Not so long ago, critics of Obamacare were warning of death spirals, the risk that too many sick people and not enough healthy ones would sign up for insurance, triggering a cycle of ever higher costs for insurers and steep premium hikes for consumers.

That didn't happen. In fact, a $10 billion cushion that the Affordable Care Act created to protect insurance companies from high-cost patients turned out to be more than needed, the government announced yesterday.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-18/obamacare-patients-cost-insurers-less-than-expected-last-year
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
June 19 2015 00:29 GMT
#40868
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.

You daft? They were talking about the NRA members tending towards being racist and black people getting treated differently when exercising their 2A rights. GOA and JPFO are FAR less ridiculous than the NRA. NRA is for idiots, which is why they tend to be more racist than the average gun owner.
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
June 19 2015 00:32 GMT
#40869
On June 19 2015 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4



Again, that's not talking about pro-2A folks. That's talking about police. Police are notoriously against the 2A anyways. The whole point to what I was responding to are the idiotic people who are trying to tenuously (or more so disingenuous) make it that pro-2A folks are racists. That's what these authoritarian clowns always do. Everything they're against they just scream your racist and shut down any intellectual discussion. It becomes very black and white.

Ok, so we're past the non-sequitur part of this discussion. I think you very well know my feelings about the police (in fact, I'm far more radical than you are, so if you want to go there, let's go there then, but don't bring BS into a topic where it doesn't belong).
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45765 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 00:33:45
June 19 2015 00:33 GMT
#40870
On June 19 2015 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4



Wow and that's even in Oregon...

The black guy has some major balls to even participate in this.

(Obviously, anecdotal evidence is anecdotal... but this seems to be par for the course.)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 19 2015 00:34 GMT
#40871
On June 19 2015 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4



Open carry laws are dumb, but that black guy should have been wearing a vest or something if he was going to do that. He could been killed. Vests are probably illegal.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 19 2015 00:36 GMT
#40872
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.

And Anders Breivik's incident was about multiculturalism?
liftlift > tsm
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 00:39:12
June 19 2015 00:36 GMT
#40873
On June 19 2015 09:29 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.

You daft? They were talking about the NRA members tending towards being racist and black people getting treated differently when exercising their 2A rights. GOA and JPFO are FAR less ridiculous than the NRA. NRA is for idiots, which is why they tend to be more racist than the average gun owner.


Fair enough, but I'll have to disagree that the gist they weren't pushing was that if you're for the 2A you're by association a racist. It's why they mentioned guns, and not the NRA only. There's also a long history with folks like them pushing this ridiculous association fallacy in all sorts of political areas where they have disagreements with 'the other side'. Oh, you're against Government telling people how to run their establishments, you're a racist. Oh, you're a radical on the 1A, you're a misogynistic asshole. It's all very blasé after a while.

PS: Don't get me wrong, I equally dislike the oh, you're against what the State of Israel is doing - you're an anti-Semite, Nazi. That sort of logic doesn't belong anywhere.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23928 Posts
June 19 2015 00:38 GMT
#40874
On June 19 2015 09:34 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4



Open carry laws are dumb, but that black guy should have been wearing a vest or something if he was going to do that. He could been killed. Vests are probably illegal.


Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Not to mention his pregnant wife in the backdrop who easily could of been hit had he fired on the guy with gun.

Acting like the difference in reaction is limited to the police is colossally dumb and I shouldn't even go on about it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
June 19 2015 00:42 GMT
#40875
On June 19 2015 09:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:34 IgnE wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.


It's not every pro 2nd amendment advocate, but people can't keep pretending there isn't a clear difference.

(non-scientific)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4



Open carry laws are dumb, but that black guy should have been wearing a vest or something if he was going to do that. He could been killed. Vests are probably illegal.


Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Not to mention his pregnant wife in the backdrop who easily could of been hit had he fired on the guy with gun.

Acting like the difference in reaction is limited to the police is colossally dumb and I shouldn't even go on about it.


Again, this is all a non-sequitur. What we were talking about is the discussion of that TV host calling pro-2A folks racist by association. Oh, you're for the 2A, then you're a racist. We weren't talking about the perception of open-carry and the racism/discrimination in how the police/random person views whites versus blacks. If you want to know how I feel about that, it's pretty similar to you, but more radical. I'm all for the disbanding of Government-police forces, especially the non-sense SWAT/DEA stuff. (We can get into security and justice and how it should be administered in another thread if you want)
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 19 2015 00:52 GMT
#40876
On June 19 2015 09:06 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:55 Wegandi wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:18 farvacola wrote:
It isn't just guns, obviously, but yes, let's play hide the sausage yet again with a gun control argument. I'm sure Millitron will be by any minute now.

I am sure if everyone in that church was armed, we would have all been fine. /s. Though I am pretty sure the NRA would be conflicted on the subject arming all black people.


Jessica from The Daily Show had a good clip about that... if it's a white guy, then he's exercising his right to bear arms. But if it's a black guy, then HOLY SHIT HE'S GOT A GUN.


Oh, the caricatures and acting so smug. All the pro-2A folks I hang around with (e.g. members of JPFO, GOA, etc.) use as part of our argument for repealing restrictions on weapon ownership is the fact that a lot of these restrictions were/are remnants of the likes of the KKK/Jim Crow/etc. era laws to prevent blacks from protecting themselves and their communities. Using the NRA as the benchmark of pro-gun folk is asinine - they do as much to fight against gun ownership as they do supposedly to 'fight for it'. Let's all remind people who was against Heller here...the NRA.

Do you people ever get tired of screaming racist about every single thing?

No, just the 20 year old ass hole that just murder 9 black people because they were black. He literally said that's why he did it. So, this time its about racism.


You daft? We're not talking about the guy who shot the folks in the church, that post was about all the 'supposedly' racist pro-gun folk who only want white people to have guns. It was quite obvious in my post and the post I responded to. Capiche?

E.g. the ridiculous idea that if you're pro-2A you're a racist. That's what we are talking about here.

And I never said that, got it? I think posters helped you get there. Good talk.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 01:14:13
June 19 2015 01:13 GMT
#40877
The US should just start right now for a long term phase out of gun culture. Go super ham on illegal guns and those found with them while at the same time make smaller changes to discourage buying guns like price increases etc on legal guns to gradually just reduce guns in our society (both legal and illegal). Do this country wide (not just state to state because it renders any legislation moot when people can just go 1 state over to get it).
Never Knows Best.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
June 19 2015 01:17 GMT
#40878
On June 19 2015 10:13 Slaughter wrote:
The US should just start right now for a long term phase out of gun culture. Go super ham on illegal guns and those found with them while at the same time make smaller changes to discourage buying guns like price increases etc on legal guns to gradually just reduce guns in our society (both legal and illegal). Do this country wide (not just state to state because it renders any legislation moot when people can just go 1 state over to get it).

Oh how I wish we could do this. It's gonna take more than affirmative gun policy, it's gonna take education reform and a host of other changes that are going to piss a lot of people off unfortunately. Fuck those people but hey, that's what this country is all about. If we could pass an amendment banning alcohol, we can put the brakes on this wild west bullshit. It won't be easy though.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 19 2015 01:23 GMT
#40879
Should seriously just have the same systems we have in place for cars, and apply them to guns.

Pretty sure insurance costs alone with dissuade people except hobbyists and enthusiasts from them.
liftlift > tsm
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4945 Posts
June 19 2015 01:24 GMT
#40880
Thank heavens we still have our guns and gun rights for a while longer. Still scary that Heller was 5-4, but at least that kept the second amendment alive and useful for much longer.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Prev 1 2042 2043 2044 2045 2046 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .238
Ryung 124
SpeCial 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7232
Sea 3705
Jaedong 2674
EffOrt 819
Mini 817
Hyuk 543
firebathero 435
Stork 433
Rush 334
actioN 293
[ Show more ]
ZerO 235
ggaemo 127
Hyun 123
hero 115
[sc1f]eonzerg 54
Pusan 52
sSak 43
Free 41
ToSsGirL 40
Bale 34
Sexy 31
Backho 24
scan(afreeca) 22
Shine 21
soO 21
PianO 20
Movie 16
GoRush 15
IntoTheRainbow 14
Rock 13
Noble 6
Dota 2
Gorgc3656
qojqva1874
420jenkins192
XcaliburYe99
Counter-Strike
byalli489
fl0m234
adren_tv191
kRYSTAL_45
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King83
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu1154
Other Games
singsing1668
B2W.Neo1022
crisheroes288
Liquid`VortiX152
XaKoH 137
elazer93
ZerO(Twitch)19
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream72
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 101
• LUISG 14
• Reevou 5
• poizon28 2
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3614
• Jankos1391
• TFBlade1026
Other Games
• WagamamaTV295
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 21m
GSL
18h 51m
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
KCM Race Survival
19h 21m
Big Gabe
21h 21m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Escore
1d 19h
OSC
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
IPSL
3 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
4 days
IPSL
4 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Flash
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-28
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.