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On April 13 2015 05:39 GreenHorizons wrote:


I don't think it will score as many points as you imagine. All she is going to do is throw Reagan back at them. Do you have the quote your talking about, I don't remember it specifically?

So the GOP also released their response?

On April 13 2015 05:44 Millitron wrote:

Now I can't find it. All I can find is a Hillary supporter, John Murtha, saying McCain was too old.

On April 13 2015 05:39 GreenHorizons wrote:


I don't think it will score as many points as you imagine. All she is going to do is throw Reagan back at them. Do you have the quote your talking about, I don't remember it specifically?

So the GOP also released their response?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4wOIwq49gw

On April 13 2015 05:55 ticklishmusic wrote:


Same thing they said about Obamacare, "no the Democratic thing is bad" (not that we have an alternative)

On April 13 2015 05:55 ticklishmusic wrote:


Same thing they said about Obamacare, "no the Democratic thing is bad" (not that we have an alternative)

On April 13 2015 06:09 Millitron wrote:

So do you always do the first solution to a problem that comes to mind? I mean, at that point, you have no alternatives. That doesn't mean the first solution is any good.

On April 13 2015 06:09 Millitron wrote:

So do you always do the first solution to a problem that comes to mind? I mean, at that point, you have no alternatives. That doesn't mean the first solution is any good.

On April 13 2015 06:54 ticklishmusic wrote:


While we can disagree on Obamacare's degree of merits/demerits, I think it's intellectually dishonest and lazy to say "oh it's a bad idea" and present no other alternative especially after 10 years. The Republican party has no answer, except no and so many issues.

Also, check out Hillary's campaign video. It's pretty good I think-- the bit of Spanish there is hell of a move.

On April 13 2015 07:23 Millitron wrote:

How about "Oh, its a bad idea. Lets not do it and instead think up a better solution."?

On April 13 2015 07:23 Millitron wrote:

How about "Oh, its a bad idea. Lets not do it and instead think up a better solution."?

On April 13 2015 07:39 Simberto wrote:
Not that it would be hard to come up with a better solution. Single Payer or any of the nearly-single-payer systems that exist in europe. Just steal the solution wholesale from pretty much any EU country.

The problem is that the republican party doesn't actually WANT a solution, from a republican standpoint the status quo before Obamacare was perfectly fine. Who cares about poor people when your insurance and healthcare companies make giant profits and keep lobbying you with that dough. Now, they of course can't really say that, thus they just say "Yeah no this is not good and doesn't solve any problems" Without actually proposing a different solution, because this is not a problem they actually want to solve.

On April 13 2015 08:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on Christie to throw his hat into the ring. With the email scandal being more recent than the one about the bridge, he definitely has a very good chance, especially among moderates.

On April 13 2015 08:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on Christie to throw his hat into the ring. With the email scandal being more recent than the one about the bridge, he definitely has a very good chance, especially among moderates.

On April 13 2015 08:29 Reaper9 wrote:


Groans quietly*, anyone but that thug who runs my state. Seriously.

On April 13 2015 08:40 Adreme wrote:


Jeb Bush basically cut Christie's leg out from under him because the bridge scandal made the establishment not trust him anymore.

But after a political winter that Christie would like to forget, the New Jersey governor and his advisers are re-calibrating for an early summer campaign launch designed to capitalize on Christie's considerable strengths as a retail campaigner and position him as a truth-telling underdog in the style of John McCain.

He begins that quest next week with a multiday "Tell it like it is" tour of New Hampshire, the launchpad primary state that rescued McCain's 2008 sputtering, low-budget primary campaign after he decided to devote his energy to winning over the state's finicky voters one intimate town hall at a time.

Christie's team, aware they can no longer rely on the establishment forces that were propping him before last year's Bridgegate fiasco, is hoping that his personal charisma and Jersey-tested ability to engage with voters in unscripted settings will produce a similar outcome.

"John McCain was left for dead in 2007 and 2008, and look what happened," said Bill Greiner, a New Hampshire businessman and Christie supporter. "Gov. Christie is very similar to McCain. He has a willingness to tell you things whether you like it or not. He will do the things you need to do to win here, in small groups, in town halls, on the grass-roots level."

Like other allies, Greiner scoffed at the suggestion that Christie's campaign is a nonstarter with Republicans.

"How do you write someone off when he hasn't even started campaigning?" he asked. "It's laughable and it's head-scratching and it doesn't make any sense. You have to let him and everybody else campaign. Do I think the governor has a fork in him? Absolutely not."

Christie supporters are telegraphing that everyone-calm-down to donors and a trigger-happy media that has already anointed Jeb Bush as the top choice of the Republican establishment and the man to beat for the nomination.

"Just like the governor has said publicly many times now, it is very early in this process and he feels very good about where he is," said longtime Christie confidante Bill Palatucci.

Like other potential candidates, he also has the backing of a super PAC, America Leads, helmed by a top strategist from Christie's successful tenure as chairman of the Republican Governors Association.