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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 14 2015 21:02 GMT
#31501
http://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/oil-prices-is-supply-or-demand-behind-the-slump/?utm_source=PA&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_term=inflation&utm_content=blog&utm_campaign=1132015_1

Interesting short paper from St Louis Fed -- love these guys, I guess because they sit in a kind of random Fed area they have to up their output of sweet papers vs the NYFed scumbags who are mostly concentrated on moving to some big bank in a couple years -- but looks like the oil shock is a combo of both supply and demand. Global demand down, which is good if we are replacing oil use or bad if we are going to grow slower -- and local oil market supply shocks -- fracking and whatnot.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 14 2015 21:07 GMT
#31502
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 15 2015 00:08 GMT
#31503
Oh won't someone please think of the Corporate class!

We should all do so well while under assault.

JPMorgan Chase earned $4.9 billion in the fourth quarter of 2014, the company announced on Wednesday, down from a year ago, but capping what CEO Jamie Dimon called a record year for the biggest U.S. bank by assets.

Despite this success, Dimon warned that "banks are under assault," from government regulators.

"In the old days," Dimon said, "you dealt with one regulator when you had an issue, maybe two. “Now it’s five or six. It makes it very difficult and very complicated.

"You all should ask the question about how American that is. And how fair that is," he added. "And how complex that is for companies."

The biggest U.S. bank by assets has had its fair share of trouble with regulators in recent years. In the fourth quarter, JPMorgan paid $1.1 billion to settle charges by U.S. and foreign regulators that its traders had manipulated currency markets. In those settlements, J.P. Morgan did not admit nor deny any wrongdoing.

"Obviously, companies make mistakes," Dimon said on Wednesday. "We try to resolve it, we try to fix it, we admit it."

In the past two years, JPMorgan has paid out $14 billion in settlements and fines related to the London Whale trading losses, manipulating the key interest rate benchmark Libor, and issuing bad mortgages that helped lead to the financial crisis.


Source
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11686 Posts
January 15 2015 00:20 GMT
#31504
"In the old days," Dimon said, "you dealt with one regulator when you had an issue, maybe two. “Now it’s five or six. It makes it very difficult and very complicated.


Maybe that is just me, but that sounds suspiciously like "Before, i just had to bribe one dude and the problem would go away. Now that there are more, it becomes way harder

Poor banks. All that evil regulation, after they proved how well they dealt with stuff unregulated just a few years ago.

JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
January 15 2015 00:32 GMT
#31505
On January 15 2015 09:20 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
"In the old days," Dimon said, "you dealt with one regulator when you had an issue, maybe two. “Now it’s five or six. It makes it very difficult and very complicated.


Maybe that is just me, but that sounds suspiciously like "Before, i just had to bribe one dude and the problem would go away. Now that there are more, it becomes way harder

Poor banks. All that evil regulation, after they proved how well they dealt with stuff unregulated just a few years ago.


They were never unregulated. Many people think that banks would face stricter and more coherent regulation if there were fewer regulators rather than more (less regulatory arbitrage).

Reflexively opposing anything a bank complains about isn't always wise.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23515 Posts
January 15 2015 00:55 GMT
#31506
On January 15 2015 09:20 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
"In the old days," Dimon said, "you dealt with one regulator when you had an issue, maybe two. “Now it’s five or six. It makes it very difficult and very complicated.


Maybe that is just me, but that sounds suspiciously like "Before, i just had to bribe one dude and the problem would go away. Now that there are more, it becomes way harder

Poor banks. All that evil regulation, after they proved how well they dealt with stuff unregulated just a few years ago.


It's not just you. Of course I think bribing is being a bit generous. Manipulating and tricking is probably closer to what they were doing.

It's harder to get one over on more people than it is on less people who are more overwhelmed by the sheer volume of the work.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
January 15 2015 01:00 GMT
#31507
On January 15 2015 09:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 09:20 Simberto wrote:
"In the old days," Dimon said, "you dealt with one regulator when you had an issue, maybe two. “Now it’s five or six. It makes it very difficult and very complicated.


Maybe that is just me, but that sounds suspiciously like "Before, i just had to bribe one dude and the problem would go away. Now that there are more, it becomes way harder

Poor banks. All that evil regulation, after they proved how well they dealt with stuff unregulated just a few years ago.


It's not just you. Of course I think bribing is being a bit generous. Manipulating and tricking is probably closer to what they were doing.

It's harder to get one over on more people than it is on less people who are more overwhelmed by the sheer volume of the work.

Sometimes its easier to fool lots of people than a few people. Eventually, you fool enough that the one's you've fooled start fighting your battles for you.
Who called in the fleet?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23515 Posts
January 15 2015 01:35 GMT
#31508
On January 15 2015 10:00 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 09:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 15 2015 09:20 Simberto wrote:
"In the old days," Dimon said, "you dealt with one regulator when you had an issue, maybe two. “Now it’s five or six. It makes it very difficult and very complicated.


Maybe that is just me, but that sounds suspiciously like "Before, i just had to bribe one dude and the problem would go away. Now that there are more, it becomes way harder

Poor banks. All that evil regulation, after they proved how well they dealt with stuff unregulated just a few years ago.


It's not just you. Of course I think bribing is being a bit generous. Manipulating and tricking is probably closer to what they were doing.

It's harder to get one over on more people than it is on less people who are more overwhelmed by the sheer volume of the work.

Sometimes its easier to fool lots of people than a few people. Eventually, you fool enough that the one's you've fooled start fighting your battles for you.


I'm not going to argue with the idea that banking regulations are a cluster FUBAR. I just think that even Greenspan coming to the conclusion that they can't regulate their own behavior as rational entities shows us a lot.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 15 2015 01:37 GMT
#31509
On January 15 2015 09:32 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 09:20 Simberto wrote:
"In the old days," Dimon said, "you dealt with one regulator when you had an issue, maybe two. “Now it’s five or six. It makes it very difficult and very complicated.


Maybe that is just me, but that sounds suspiciously like "Before, i just had to bribe one dude and the problem would go away. Now that there are more, it becomes way harder

Poor banks. All that evil regulation, after they proved how well they dealt with stuff unregulated just a few years ago.


They were never unregulated. Many people think that banks would face stricter and more coherent regulation if there were fewer regulators rather than more (less regulatory arbitrage).

Reflexively opposing anything a bank complains about isn't always wise.
It's also not like citing profits advances the case against changing regulations and regulation enforcement. All the story's lead points to is its editorial opposition to the financial industry in general.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 15 2015 02:43 GMT
#31510
On January 15 2015 09:32 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 09:20 Simberto wrote:
"In the old days," Dimon said, "you dealt with one regulator when you had an issue, maybe two. “Now it’s five or six. It makes it very difficult and very complicated.


Maybe that is just me, but that sounds suspiciously like "Before, i just had to bribe one dude and the problem would go away. Now that there are more, it becomes way harder

Poor banks. All that evil regulation, after they proved how well they dealt with stuff unregulated just a few years ago.


They were never unregulated. Many people think that banks would face stricter and more coherent regulation if there were fewer regulators rather than more (less regulatory arbitrage).

Reflexively opposing anything a bank complains about isn't always wise.

Many people out of Chicago. Sure. They also think rich people should get positive payments instead of taxes because they are more productive. Thats the magic of belief.
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
January 15 2015 03:51 GMT
#31511
On January 15 2015 11:43 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 09:32 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 15 2015 09:20 Simberto wrote:
"In the old days," Dimon said, "you dealt with one regulator when you had an issue, maybe two. “Now it’s five or six. It makes it very difficult and very complicated.


Maybe that is just me, but that sounds suspiciously like "Before, i just had to bribe one dude and the problem would go away. Now that there are more, it becomes way harder

Poor banks. All that evil regulation, after they proved how well they dealt with stuff unregulated just a few years ago.


They were never unregulated. Many people think that banks would face stricter and more coherent regulation if there were fewer regulators rather than more (less regulatory arbitrage).

Reflexively opposing anything a bank complains about isn't always wise.

Many people out of Chicago. Sure. They also think rich people should get positive payments instead of taxes because they are more productive. Thats the magic of belief.

Source? For either? Or are you just engaging in magical beliefs?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 04:06:59
January 15 2015 04:06 GMT
#31512
An "accountability board" assembled by the CIA has cleared five of the agency's employees of any wrongdoing related to improperly accessing the Senate Intelligence Committee emails and computer network. Sen. Dianne Feinstein says the breach violated the Constitution.

NPR's David Welna reports:

"The five-member Agency Accountability board, which included three veteran CIA officers, told the top members of the Senate Intelligence Committee that the CIA officials who broke into the panel's computer system had acted 'reasonably.'

"That contradicted CIA inspector general David Buckley, who concluded the five officials had acted improperly. Buckley is quitting as the CIA's internal watchdog at the end of the month."


The board said personnel from the CIA general consul's office and IT department had not tampered with any of the panel's "work product" and were instead "investigating a potential security breach in the highly classified shared computer network," said former Sen. Evan Bayh, who led the review.

The report stems from a very public disagreement between the CIA and members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that was sparked by the panel's exhaustive review of the CIA's interrogation techniques, renditions, and other activities (the panel's report was finally released last month).


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
January 15 2015 04:35 GMT
#31513
On January 15 2015 13:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
An "accountability board" assembled by the CIA has cleared five of the agency's employees of any wrongdoing related to improperly accessing the Senate Intelligence Committee emails and computer network. Sen. Dianne Feinstein says the breach violated the Constitution.

NPR's David Welna reports:

"The five-member Agency Accountability board, which included three veteran CIA officers, told the top members of the Senate Intelligence Committee that the CIA officials who broke into the panel's computer system had acted 'reasonably.'

"That contradicted CIA inspector general David Buckley, who concluded the five officials had acted improperly. Buckley is quitting as the CIA's internal watchdog at the end of the month."


The board said personnel from the CIA general consul's office and IT department had not tampered with any of the panel's "work product" and were instead "investigating a potential security breach in the highly classified shared computer network," said former Sen. Evan Bayh, who led the review.

The report stems from a very public disagreement between the CIA and members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that was sparked by the panel's exhaustive review of the CIA's interrogation techniques, renditions, and other activities (the panel's report was finally released last month).


Source

I wish someone could make a joke about how this CIA thing is the white version of the cops getting off in Ferguson and NYC.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 04:46:26
January 15 2015 04:45 GMT
#31514
well the CIA were surprised by the level of detailed knowledge the panel had on some of their secret secrets, so they went spy hunting. whack a mole
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 15 2015 04:59 GMT
#31515


Boehner shows signs of life. I guess he felt it was time to look active on a conservative position, now that midterms have handed him the biggest Republican majority in the house since before FDR.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 05:22:01
January 15 2015 05:21 GMT
#31516
On January 15 2015 13:59 Danglars wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWKdGkG30uo

Boehner shows signs of life. I guess he felt it was time to look active on a conservative position, now that midterms have handed him the biggest Republican majority in the house since before FDR.


But then came the two magic words "prosecutorial discretion," or if you are one of our more honest Democrat friends, "gridlock" and "obstruction."
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 16 2015 02:48 GMT
#31517
Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) will deliver the GOP response to President Barack Obama's 2015 State of the Union address on Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) announced at the House and Senate GOP retreat in Hershey, Pennsylvania.

"Sen. Ernst brings a unique perspective to the Senate. She is a mother, a soldier and an independent leader who serves in Washington because Americans voted for change in the last election, and Joni understands that middle-class Americans want Congress to get back to work and that they want Washington to get refocused on their concerns, instead of those of the political class,” McConnell said in a statement Thursday.

Ernst was elected to the Senate in November, becoming the first woman elected to federal office from Iowa. She said she's "truly honored" to deliver the GOP address.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 16 2015 04:15 GMT
#31518
President Barack Obama on Thursday renewed his push for paid leave for parents and other workers, signing a memorandum directing federal agencies to advance workers six weeks of paid sick leave.

Obama, who will make a new push on the issue, beginning with the State of the Union address he delivers Tuesday night, said he is astonished that so many people don’t receive such benefits. "How can we support working families so they have the tools to succeed in this new economy?" Obama said at a Baltimore cafe that offers earned sick leave to its small workforce. He and Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., had discussed balancing work and family with a group of women there. Obama said the issue transcends demographics and geography. "We really can do something about it," he said.

Obama will call on Congress, states and cities to pass measures to allow tens of millions of workers to earn up to a week of paid sick time a year. He'll also ask Congress for more than $2 billion to encourage states to create paid family and medical leave programs.

In addition, Obama will take steps to provide federal employees with up to six weeks of paid sick leave to care for a new child. And he'll propose that Congress pass legislation to give federal workers an additional six weeks of paid parental leave.

Details on how Obama would raise the $2 billion will be released next month.

Obama said the Baltimore cafe owner has offered above-minimum-wage pay and earned sick leave to all employees since opening in late 2010. He said that type of investment "pays dividends" and cited reduced turnover as one benefit.

Obama wants Congress to pass legislation, sponsored since 2005 by Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., to allow workers to earn up to a week of paid sick leave to care for themselves or a sick family member, obtain preventive care or deal with domestic violence. Workers would earn an hour of paid sick time for every 30 hours they work. Employers that already provide paid sick time would not have to change their policies as long as the time earned can be used for the same purposes.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 16 2015 07:40 GMT
#31519
Republicans in Congress are doing a 180 on net neutrality as the Federal Communications Commission prepares to issue new rules within weeks.

For years, GOP lawmakers have adamantly opposed any rules requiring Internet service providers to treat all Web traffic equally, calling them unnecessary and an example of Washington overreach.

But now that the FCC is moving toward issuing a tough net neutrality order that would subject broadband to utility-style regulation — an approach endorsed by President Barack Obama — top Republicans in both chambers are making plans to legislate their own rules to ensure the agency doesn’t go too far.

“Times have changed,” Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.), the chairman of the House telecom subcommittee, said when asked about the evolving GOP position on net neutrality. “The administration has latched onto this [utility-style regulation], and the FCC’s independence is nominal at best.”

According to Walden, the Republican bill — which “is ready” and will be released in the coming days — “gives the protections that the president and FCC say they want, and does it in a legally sustainable way.”

Walden and Senate Commerce Committee Chairman John Thune (R-S.D.) announced late Wednesday that they plan to hold double-header hearings on net neutrality next week, and Thune laid out set of principles that will guide them as they craft the legislation.

The language Republicans are using to talk about their proposed bill illustrates just how far the GOP has come on the issue. The principles embrace and even bolster ideas that were once controversial in Republican circles, like banning “paid prioritization,” the practice of charging content companies for an online fast lane.

Thune’s principles also include bans on blocking or throttling Web traffic and extending net neutrality protections to wireless networks, an idea put forward by Obama and congressional Democrats.

At the same time, the GOP measure would tie the FCC’s hands, prohibiting it from reclassifying broadband as a utility under Title II of the Communications Act, or using other sections of the law to create new rules.

Still, the fact that Republicans are even talking about legislating net neutrality marks a stark departure from their past position.


Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/republicans-congress-net-neutrality-fcc-114296.html?hp=c2_3


Well I'll be...
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8670 Posts
January 16 2015 07:54 GMT
#31520
On January 16 2015 16:40 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
Republicans in Congress are doing a 180 on net neutrality as the Federal Communications Commission prepares to issue new rules within weeks.

For years, GOP lawmakers have adamantly opposed any rules requiring Internet service providers to treat all Web traffic equally, calling them unnecessary and an example of Washington overreach.

But now that the FCC is moving toward issuing a tough net neutrality order that would subject broadband to utility-style regulation — an approach endorsed by President Barack Obama — top Republicans in both chambers are making plans to legislate their own rules to ensure the agency doesn’t go too far.

“Times have changed,” Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.), the chairman of the House telecom subcommittee, said when asked about the evolving GOP position on net neutrality. “The administration has latched onto this [utility-style regulation], and the FCC’s independence is nominal at best.”

According to Walden, the Republican bill — which “is ready” and will be released in the coming days — “gives the protections that the president and FCC say they want, and does it in a legally sustainable way.”

Walden and Senate Commerce Committee Chairman John Thune (R-S.D.) announced late Wednesday that they plan to hold double-header hearings on net neutrality next week, and Thune laid out set of principles that will guide them as they craft the legislation.

The language Republicans are using to talk about their proposed bill illustrates just how far the GOP has come on the issue. The principles embrace and even bolster ideas that were once controversial in Republican circles, like banning “paid prioritization,” the practice of charging content companies for an online fast lane.

Thune’s principles also include bans on blocking or throttling Web traffic and extending net neutrality protections to wireless networks, an idea put forward by Obama and congressional Democrats.

At the same time, the GOP measure would tie the FCC’s hands, prohibiting it from reclassifying broadband as a utility under Title II of the Communications Act, or using other sections of the law to create new rules.

Still, the fact that Republicans are even talking about legislating net neutrality marks a stark departure from their past position.


Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/republicans-congress-net-neutrality-fcc-114296.html?hp=c2_3


Well I'll be...


wow. apparently someone important explained to them how things work with the interwebz. and bought them a dictionary where the word freedom is highlighted.

good news if they actually evolved from their stupid position to something reasonable.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
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