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On July 01 2014 10:40 IgnE wrote: Aspirin is used chronically for reducing heart attack risk.
Is it labeled for that use?
I'm glad you brought up it's labeling, it serves as a reminder of how completely bullshit our marketing/labeling laws are, how people are tricked into believing that something they purchase will benefit them without being explicitly told so, and how millions of people regularly don't act in their 'rational self-interest' and why models that make that assumption are fundamentally flawed.
It doesn't lack that label from a lack of effort...?
On Friday, the FDA denied a request from Bayer, based in Leverkusen, Germany, to change the labeling on its packaging to market the product for heart-attack prevention for patients with no history of cardiovascular disease. Aspirin generated $1.27 billion in sales for Bayer last year.
This, like pretty much all drug related issues, has little to nothing to do with science, safety, or legitimate concerns (although the opposition tends to pretend it does). But also, like most drug related issues, is heavily influenced by religious people who are totally oblivious to the reality of the situation.
Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
Any other conservative/constitutional show is like utter crap with fake issues and stuff, but this Alex Jones guy really understand the issues. I think more people need to learn about him and watch his show.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
Any other conservative/constitutional show is like utter crap with fake issues and stuff, but this Alex Jones guy really understand the issues. I think more people need to learn about him and watch his show.
I would put Alex Jones into the conspiracy theorist category, not the conservative category. Be wary. The moment he starts talking about 9/11, FEMA ... it should be obvious. At least it is to me... Unless he's changed his mind on that stuff? Kind of doubt it.
I only respond because I, for one, would like to remove him from the umbrella of "conservative," or any other relatively well defined group, for that matter.
Louisiana state Rep. Lenar Whitney (R) is accusing liberals, such as former Vice President Al Gore, of advancing "the greatest deception in the history of mankind" -- man-made climate change -- in a scheme to empower the executive branch and increase taxes.
“A specter is haunting America,” Whitney, who is running for Congress in Louisiana’s 6th Congressional District, warned in a campaign video released Wednesday. “It is perhaps the greatest deception in the history of mankind.”
Mocking Gore’s 2006 Academy Award–winning climate change documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth,” Whitney claimed that the planet "has done nothing but get colder each year since the film’s release.”
“Quite inconveniently for Al Gore, and for the rest of the politicians who continue to advance this delusion, any 10-year-old can invalidate their thesis with one of the simplest scientific devices known to man: a thermometer,” Whitney said, citing record sea ice in the Antarctic sector.
Louisiana state Rep. Lenar Whitney (R) is accusing liberals, such as former Vice President Al Gore, of advancing "the greatest deception in the history of mankind" -- man-made climate change -- in a scheme to empower the executive branch and increase taxes.
“A specter is haunting America,” Whitney, who is running for Congress in Louisiana’s 6th Congressional District, warned in a campaign video released Wednesday. “It is perhaps the greatest deception in the history of mankind.”
Mocking Gore’s 2006 Academy Award–winning climate change documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth,” Whitney claimed that the planet "has done nothing but get colder each year since the film’s release.”
“Quite inconveniently for Al Gore, and for the rest of the politicians who continue to advance this delusion, any 10-year-old can invalidate their thesis with one of the simplest scientific devices known to man: a thermometer,” Whitney said, citing record sea ice in the Antarctic sector.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 attacks, the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology and the killing of "thousands of astronauts". He believes that government and big business have colluded to create a New World Order through "manufactured economic crises, sophisticated surveillance tech and—above all—inside-job terror attacks that fuel exploitable hysteria". Jones describes himself as a libertarian and a paleoconservative"
If Wikipedia didn't make all of this up that guy is probably the most ridiculous person in the United States.(along with the Republican lady two posts above)
Well, Viagra shouldn't be a problem, as long as you only use it for procreative sex with your wife.
Also, from a european perspective, american politics are weird. I am kind of wondering why large amounts of people don't emigrate from the US to europe. Though i must say that i have no idea of the law in that case, and how hard it is to actually immigrate here from the US.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 attacks, the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology and the killing of "thousands of astronauts". He believes that government and big business have colluded to create a New World Order through "manufactured economic crises, sophisticated surveillance tech and—above all—inside-job terror attacks that fuel exploitable hysteria". Jones describes himself as a libertarian and a paleoconservative"
If Wikipedia didn't make all of this up that guy is probably the most ridiculous person in the United States.(along with the Republican lady two posts above)
While I agree Alex Jones is a nut, what does hobby lobby covering Vasecomies/Viagra have to do with anything? The Hobby Lobby owners clearly believe that life begins at conception, so they fought to be able to not pay for contraceptives that destroy a fertilized egg or prevent it from attaching to a uterus. Neither Viagra nor vasectomies prevents a fertilized egg for coming to term.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 attacks, the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology and the killing of "thousands of astronauts". He believes that government and big business have colluded to create a New World Order through "manufactured economic crises, sophisticated surveillance tech and—above all—inside-job terror attacks that fuel exploitable hysteria". Jones describes himself as a libertarian and a paleoconservative"
If Wikipedia didn't make all of this up that guy is probably the most ridiculous person in the United States.(along with the Republican lady two posts above)
While I agree Alex Jones is a nut, what does hobby lobby covering Vasecomies/Viagra have to do with anything? The Hobby Lobby owners clearly believe that life begins at conception, so they fought to be able to not pay for contraceptives that destroy a fertilized egg or prevent it from attaching to a uterus. Neither Viagra nor vasectomies prevents a fertilized egg for coming to term.
I'll agree on Viagra, but I don't see how male sterilization is something a religious person would approve of if you don't hold different standards for men and women. Taking away your ability to reproduce but still having sex doesn't really sound like something the good old bible would approve of.
Supporters of Mississippi state Sen. Chris McDaniel (R) are hinting at a specific plan to cast doubt about the results of the primary runoff election in which he lost to incumbent Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS), even if the state has no provision for triggering a recount of the election.
Noel Fritsch, McDaniel's press secretary, told the conservative Daily Caller in a report published on Monday that McDaniel's campaign and his supporters had already found 1,500 invalid votes in Hinds County (which went for Cochran, who McDaniel challenged, in both the initial primary and the runoff). McDaniel supporters claimed that they can force a new runoff if they prove that a significant amount of the votes that separated Cochran and McDaniel were invalid.
"We don’t have to prove that we have 7,000 [invalid] votes ... all there needs to be is enough doubt about the election, and we’re confident about that," Fritsch said.
But according to Pamela Weaver, spokeswoman for Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann (R), "There is no recount provision in Mississippi law," she told TPM when asked if the McDaniel campaign could trigger a recount by finding 7,000 invalid votes (the approximate margin of victory for Cochran).
The core of the McDaniel campaign's argument is that McDaniel is the legitimate Republican nominee because Cochran, after the primary went to a runoff, courted African-American and Democratic voters. The problem is that in Mississippi, voters don't register by party and Mississippi has open primaries, so it's difficult to prove that Democrats voted for Cochran as a sort of protest vote against McDaniel.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 attacks, the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology and the killing of "thousands of astronauts". He believes that government and big business have colluded to create a New World Order through "manufactured economic crises, sophisticated surveillance tech and—above all—inside-job terror attacks that fuel exploitable hysteria". Jones describes himself as a libertarian and a paleoconservative"
If Wikipedia didn't make all of this up that guy is probably the most ridiculous person in the United States.(along with the Republican lady two posts above)
While I agree Alex Jones is a nut, what does hobby lobby covering Vasecomies/Viagra have to do with anything? The Hobby Lobby owners clearly believe that life begins at conception, so they fought to be able to not pay for contraceptives that destroy a fertilized egg or prevent it from attaching to a uterus. Neither Viagra nor vasectomies prevents a fertilized egg for coming to term.
I'll agree on Viagra, but I don't see how male sterilization is something a religious person would approve of if you don't hold different standards for men and women. Taking away your ability to reproduce but still having sex doesn't really sound like something the good old bible would approve of.
Majority of American Christians don't have the same moral objections to vasectomies that they would to oral contraceptives. This is because a vasectomy prevents fertilization instead of harming a fertilized embryo.
Louisiana state Rep. Lenar Whitney (R) is accusing liberals, such as former Vice President Al Gore, of advancing "the greatest deception in the history of mankind" -- man-made climate change -- in a scheme to empower the executive branch and increase taxes.
“A specter is haunting America,” Whitney, who is running for Congress in Louisiana’s 6th Congressional District, warned in a campaign video released Wednesday. “It is perhaps the greatest deception in the history of mankind.”
Mocking Gore’s 2006 Academy Award–winning climate change documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth,” Whitney claimed that the planet "has done nothing but get colder each year since the film’s release.”
“Quite inconveniently for Al Gore, and for the rest of the politicians who continue to advance this delusion, any 10-year-old can invalidate their thesis with one of the simplest scientific devices known to man: a thermometer,” Whitney said, citing record sea ice in the Antarctic sector.
A federal judge has struck down Kentucky's ban on same-sex marriage, ruling that gay couples have the right to marry in the Bluegrass State.
"In America, even sincere and long-hold religious beliefs do not trump the constitutional rights of those who happen to have been out-voted," U.S. District court Judge John G. Heyburn II wrote in the ruling, which concluded that the state's ban violated the U.S. Constitution's Equal Protection Clause.
The judge stayed the ruling pending an appeal in the 6th U.S. Circuit Court, meaning same-sex weddings are not yet allowed in the state.
Earlier this year, Heyburn ruled that the state must recognize same-sex marriages performed in states where the weddings are legal.
Tuesday's ruling is the latest in an unbroken string of rulings in favor of marriage equality since the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act last June.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 attacks, the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology and the killing of "thousands of astronauts". He believes that government and big business have colluded to create a New World Order through "manufactured economic crises, sophisticated surveillance tech and—above all—inside-job terror attacks that fuel exploitable hysteria". Jones describes himself as a libertarian and a paleoconservative"
If Wikipedia didn't make all of this up that guy is probably the most ridiculous person in the United States.(along with the Republican lady two posts above)
While I agree Alex Jones is a nut, what does hobby lobby covering Vasecomies/Viagra have to do with anything? The Hobby Lobby owners clearly believe that life begins at conception, so they fought to be able to not pay for contraceptives that destroy a fertilized egg or prevent it from attaching to a uterus. Neither Viagra nor vasectomies prevents a fertilized egg for coming to term.
I'll agree on Viagra, but I don't see how male sterilization is something a religious person would approve of if you don't hold different standards for men and women. Taking away your ability to reproduce but still having sex doesn't really sound like something the good old bible would approve of.
Majority of American Christians don't have the same moral objections to vasectomies that they would to oral contraceptives. This is because a vasectomy prevents fertilization instead of harming a fertilized embryo.
I can clearly see what the majority of American Christians think, my point is that they're being hypocritical. If you interpret the bible the way these guys do drawing the line beyond vasectomy is ridiculous. It's a little coincidental that all these evangelical interpretations and positions always seem to profit Caucasian male heterosexual Christians while everyone else is going to get screwed.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 attacks, the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology and the killing of "thousands of astronauts". He believes that government and big business have colluded to create a New World Order through "manufactured economic crises, sophisticated surveillance tech and—above all—inside-job terror attacks that fuel exploitable hysteria". Jones describes himself as a libertarian and a paleoconservative"
If Wikipedia didn't make all of this up that guy is probably the most ridiculous person in the United States.(along with the Republican lady two posts above)
While I agree Alex Jones is a nut, what does hobby lobby covering Vasecomies/Viagra have to do with anything? The Hobby Lobby owners clearly believe that life begins at conception, so they fought to be able to not pay for contraceptives that destroy a fertilized egg or prevent it from attaching to a uterus. Neither Viagra nor vasectomies prevents a fertilized egg for coming to term.
I'll agree on Viagra, but I don't see how male sterilization is something a religious person would approve of if you don't hold different standards for men and women. Taking away your ability to reproduce but still having sex doesn't really sound like something the good old bible would approve of.
Majority of American Christians don't have the same moral objections to vasectomies that they would to oral contraceptives. This is because a vasectomy prevents fertilization instead of harming a fertilized embryo.
I can clearly see what the majority of American Christians think, my point is that they're being hypocritical. If you interpret the bible the way these guys do drawing the line beyond vasectomy is ridiculous. It's a little coincidental that all these evangelical interpretations and positions always seem to profit Caucasian male heterosexual Christians while everyone else is going to get screwed.
You are making no sense at all. You can make the argument that their perspective is wrong, unscientific, whatever. But it's not hypocritical.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 attacks, the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology and the killing of "thousands of astronauts". He believes that government and big business have colluded to create a New World Order through "manufactured economic crises, sophisticated surveillance tech and—above all—inside-job terror attacks that fuel exploitable hysteria". Jones describes himself as a libertarian and a paleoconservative"
If Wikipedia didn't make all of this up that guy is probably the most ridiculous person in the United States.(along with the Republican lady two posts above)
While I agree Alex Jones is a nut, what does hobby lobby covering Vasecomies/Viagra have to do with anything? The Hobby Lobby owners clearly believe that life begins at conception, so they fought to be able to not pay for contraceptives that destroy a fertilized egg or prevent it from attaching to a uterus. Neither Viagra nor vasectomies prevents a fertilized egg for coming to term.
I'll agree on Viagra, but I don't see how male sterilization is something a religious person would approve of if you don't hold different standards for men and women. Taking away your ability to reproduce but still having sex doesn't really sound like something the good old bible would approve of.
Majority of American Christians don't have the same moral objections to vasectomies that they would to oral contraceptives. This is because a vasectomy prevents fertilization instead of harming a fertilized embryo.
I can clearly see what the majority of American Christians think, my point is that they're being hypocritical. If you interpret the bible the way these guys do drawing the line beyond vasectomy is ridiculous. It's a little coincidental that all these evangelical interpretations and positions always seem to profit Caucasian male heterosexual Christians while everyone else is going to get screwed.
You are making no sense at all. You can make the argument that their perspective is wrong, unscientific, whatever. But it's not hypocritical.
That would depend on the perspective one takes. In terms of doctrinal consistency, Catholics would most certainly maintain that Evangelical Conservatives are being hypocritical in their devotion to anti-abortion social initiatives; in their eyes, the Bible makes it very clear that contraception and sex outside of procreation are both to be avoided at all costs. In other words, there is doctrinal reason to believe that the evangelical focus on abortion amounts to an "a la carte belief" meant to protect the sexual deviance of men above women.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 attacks, the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology and the killing of "thousands of astronauts". He believes that government and big business have colluded to create a New World Order through "manufactured economic crises, sophisticated surveillance tech and—above all—inside-job terror attacks that fuel exploitable hysteria". Jones describes himself as a libertarian and a paleoconservative"
If Wikipedia didn't make all of this up that guy is probably the most ridiculous person in the United States.(along with the Republican lady two posts above)
While I agree Alex Jones is a nut, what does hobby lobby covering Vasecomies/Viagra have to do with anything? The Hobby Lobby owners clearly believe that life begins at conception, so they fought to be able to not pay for contraceptives that destroy a fertilized egg or prevent it from attaching to a uterus. Neither Viagra nor vasectomies prevents a fertilized egg for coming to term.
I'll agree on Viagra, but I don't see how male sterilization is something a religious person would approve of if you don't hold different standards for men and women. Taking away your ability to reproduce but still having sex doesn't really sound like something the good old bible would approve of.
Majority of American Christians don't have the same moral objections to vasectomies that they would to oral contraceptives. This is because a vasectomy prevents fertilization instead of harming a fertilized embryo.
I can clearly see what the majority of American Christians think, my point is that they're being hypocritical. If you interpret the bible the way these guys do drawing the line beyond vasectomy is ridiculous. It's a little coincidental that all these evangelical interpretations and positions always seem to profit Caucasian male heterosexual Christians while everyone else is going to get screwed.
You are making no sense at all. You can make the argument that their perspective is wrong, unscientific, whatever. But it's not hypocritical.
That would depend on the perspective one takes. In terms of doctrinal consistency, Catholics would most certainly maintain that Evangelical Conservatives are being hypocritical in their devotion to anti-abortion social initiatives; in their eyes, the Bible makes it very clear that contraception and sex outside of procreation are both to be avoided at all costs. In other words, there is doctrinal reason to believe that the evangelical focus on abortion amounts to an "a la carte belief" meant to protect the sexual deviance of men above women.
I agree there are doctrinal differences between different Christian denominations. The doctrine Hobby Lobby takes is pretty typical of American Protestants. Catholics may of course see things differently.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 attacks, the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology and the killing of "thousands of astronauts". He believes that government and big business have colluded to create a New World Order through "manufactured economic crises, sophisticated surveillance tech and—above all—inside-job terror attacks that fuel exploitable hysteria". Jones describes himself as a libertarian and a paleoconservative"
If Wikipedia didn't make all of this up that guy is probably the most ridiculous person in the United States.(along with the Republican lady two posts above)
While I agree Alex Jones is a nut, what does hobby lobby covering Vasecomies/Viagra have to do with anything? The Hobby Lobby owners clearly believe that life begins at conception, so they fought to be able to not pay for contraceptives that destroy a fertilized egg or prevent it from attaching to a uterus. Neither Viagra nor vasectomies prevents a fertilized egg for coming to term.
I'll agree on Viagra, but I don't see how male sterilization is something a religious person would approve of if you don't hold different standards for men and women. Taking away your ability to reproduce but still having sex doesn't really sound like something the good old bible would approve of.
Majority of American Christians don't have the same moral objections to vasectomies that they would to oral contraceptives. This is because a vasectomy prevents fertilization instead of harming a fertilized embryo.
I can clearly see what the majority of American Christians think, my point is that they're being hypocritical. If you interpret the bible the way these guys do drawing the line beyond vasectomy is ridiculous. It's a little coincidental that all these evangelical interpretations and positions always seem to profit Caucasian male heterosexual Christians while everyone else is going to get screwed.
You are making no sense at all. You can make the argument that their perspective is wrong, unscientific, whatever. But it's not hypocritical.
The bible belt leads the statistics in divorces, murders, teen pregnancy and std infection rates. Christian evangelicals in the US are the incarnation of hypocrisy.
On July 01 2014 16:56 BillGates wrote: Anyone else familiar with the Alex Jones radio show? Just found out that show few weeks ago and that guy is so well researched and knowledgeable, one of the rare Americans that actually knows which planet he is on.
I agree with 90% of his deep analysis and information, I think some of the details may be different and stuff, but the overall geo-strategy analysis is spot on.
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 attacks, the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology and the killing of "thousands of astronauts". He believes that government and big business have colluded to create a New World Order through "manufactured economic crises, sophisticated surveillance tech and—above all—inside-job terror attacks that fuel exploitable hysteria". Jones describes himself as a libertarian and a paleoconservative"
If Wikipedia didn't make all of this up that guy is probably the most ridiculous person in the United States.(along with the Republican lady two posts above)
While I agree Alex Jones is a nut, what does hobby lobby covering Vasecomies/Viagra have to do with anything? The Hobby Lobby owners clearly believe that life begins at conception, so they fought to be able to not pay for contraceptives that destroy a fertilized egg or prevent it from attaching to a uterus. Neither Viagra nor vasectomies prevents a fertilized egg for coming to term.
I'll agree on Viagra, but I don't see how male sterilization is something a religious person would approve of if you don't hold different standards for men and women. Taking away your ability to reproduce but still having sex doesn't really sound like something the good old bible would approve of.
Majority of American Christians don't have the same moral objections to vasectomies that they would to oral contraceptives. This is because a vasectomy prevents fertilization instead of harming a fertilized embryo.
I can clearly see what the majority of American Christians think, my point is that they're being hypocritical. If you interpret the bible the way these guys do drawing the line beyond vasectomy is ridiculous. It's a little coincidental that all these evangelical interpretations and positions always seem to profit Caucasian male heterosexual Christians while everyone else is going to get screwed.
You are making no sense at all. You can make the argument that their perspective is wrong, unscientific, whatever. But it's not hypocritical.
That would depend on the perspective one takes. In terms of doctrinal consistency, Catholics would most certainly maintain that Evangelical Conservatives are being hypocritical in their devotion to anti-abortion social initiatives; in their eyes, the Bible makes it very clear that contraception and sex outside of procreation are both to be avoided at all costs. In other words, there is doctrinal reason to believe that the evangelical focus on abortion amounts to an "a la carte belief" meant to protect the sexual deviance of men above women.
I agree there are doctrinal differences between different Christian denominations. The doctrine Hobby Lobby takes is pretty typical of American Protestants. Catholics may of course see things differently.
Keep in mind that "American Protestants" includes denominations like Lutheranism and Episcopalianism, both of which take very different stances on matters such as abortion and contraception. Better to go a bit further and line up Hobby Lobby's interests with Evangelical threads of Protestantism.
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