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Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
November 18 2012 15:29 GMT
#1401
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


What the hell does no agreeing with Israel's policy and what the IDF does has to do with hating Jews?
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 15:33:31
November 18 2012 15:30 GMT
#1402
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


I like Jon Stewart and Woody Allen, I hate you. Where does that leave me on your scale of antisemitism?
Big water
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 15:38:08
November 18 2012 15:36 GMT
#1403
On November 19 2012 00:29 Omri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


What the hell does no agreeing with Israel's policy and what the IDF does has to do with hating Jews?

Didn't you know? Scolding Israeli policy is equivalent to being hitler and wanting concentration camps, you HAVE to be anti-semitic to even think poorly of Israel. It's like the nation that cries wolf, forever, and soaks up the support.

FoTG fighting!
Oroboros
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany37 Posts
November 18 2012 15:37 GMT
#1404
On November 19 2012 00:27 hinnolinn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


Equating a dislike of Israel's military and government with antisemitism is just straight up wrong.

edit: removed some nonsense from my post


28% are saying the support a organization who praises and practices eliminatory antisemitism and keeps its own people as hostages. and you dont let me call these 28% what they really are?
hinnolinn
Profile Joined August 2010
212 Posts
November 18 2012 15:39 GMT
#1405
On November 19 2012 00:37 Oroboros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:27 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


Equating a dislike of Israel's military and government with antisemitism is just straight up wrong.

edit: removed some nonsense from my post


28% are saying the support a organization who praises and practices eliminatory antisemitism and keeps its own people as hostages. and you dont let me call these 28% what they really are?


And that statement is straight up wrong also, as the poll didn't ask if people supported Hamas, but Palestine. Yes, Hamas was the democratically selected party, but that doesn't mean that people can't believe that the civilians in Palestine have a rawer deal then the citizens of Israel.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 15:41:43
November 18 2012 15:40 GMT
#1406
On November 19 2012 00:37 Oroboros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:27 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


Equating a dislike of Israel's military and government with antisemitism is just straight up wrong.

edit: removed some nonsense from my post


28% are saying the support a organization who praises and practices eliminatory antisemitism and keeps its own people as hostages. and you dont let me call these 28% what they really are?


28% are praising the Hamas? Mind shooting up that statistic for me, because most of that "28%" are not praising what Hamas are doing, they're just not brushing aside the times when the IDF did equivalent things, like using children as human shields and white phosphorous on hospitals. If that's anti-semitism, deck me out with as much anti-semetic content as possible because I have no issue not supporting the practice of breaking international war laws such as the geneva convention and using White Phosphorous on crowded areas, especially hospitals.

You wonder why the Hamas is so regularly supported, when hundreds of your civilians are being killed/taken prisoner/relocated it seems like anyone wanting to destroy/remove said effect would be highly recommended.
FoTG fighting!
Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
November 18 2012 15:40 GMT
#1407
On November 19 2012 00:36 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:29 Omri wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


What the hell does no agreeing with Israel's policy and what the IDF does has to do with hating Jews?

Didn't you know? Scolding Israeli policy is equivalent to being hitler and wanting concentration camps. It's like the nation that cries wolf, forever and soaks up the support.


When you claim that what ignorant person posts represents everyone you make yourself just as foolish as him. No one else is posting it and its clear thats not what we think. You know better then this also, yet you have no qualms using his foolishness to make you seem more "correct".
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
November 18 2012 15:42 GMT
#1408
On November 19 2012 00:40 Goozen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:36 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:29 Omri wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


What the hell does no agreeing with Israel's policy and what the IDF does has to do with hating Jews?

Didn't you know? Scolding Israeli policy is equivalent to being hitler and wanting concentration camps. It's like the nation that cries wolf, forever and soaks up the support.


When you claim that what ignorant person posts represents everyone you make yourself just as foolish as him. No one else is posting it and its clear thats not what we think. You know better then this also, yet you have no qualms using his foolishness to make you seem more "correct".


From most of the posts I've seen in this thread and from news outlets and politicians is that a comment against Israel is an antisemetic comment, no matter the case.
FoTG fighting!
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
November 18 2012 15:46 GMT
#1409
On November 19 2012 00:39 hinnolinn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:37 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:27 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


Equating a dislike of Israel's military and government with antisemitism is just straight up wrong.

edit: removed some nonsense from my post


28% are saying the support a organization who praises and practices eliminatory antisemitism and keeps its own people as hostages. and you dont let me call these 28% what they really are?


And that statement is straight up wrong also, as the poll didn't ask if people supported Hamas, but Palestine. Yes, Hamas was the democratically selected party, but that doesn't mean that people can't believe that the civilians in Palestine have a rawer deal then the citizens of Israel.

This, a hundred times, this.
Big water
Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
November 18 2012 15:46 GMT
#1410
On November 19 2012 00:42 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:40 Goozen wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:36 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:29 Omri wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


What the hell does no agreeing with Israel's policy and what the IDF does has to do with hating Jews?

Didn't you know? Scolding Israeli policy is equivalent to being hitler and wanting concentration camps. It's like the nation that cries wolf, forever and soaks up the support.


When you claim that what ignorant person posts represents everyone you make yourself just as foolish as him. No one else is posting it and its clear thats not what we think. You know better then this also, yet you have no qualms using his foolishness to make you seem more "correct".


From most of the posts I've seen in this thread and from news outlets and politicians is that a comment against Israel is an antisemetic comment, no matter the case.

In that case you have should have your eyesight checked, other then maybe 2 people u have not seen it in this thread nor have i seen it by the vast majority of politicians. But, im sure you will be professional and point that massive amount of posts in this thread by different people that imply a person is anti-Semitic if he dosnt support Israel.
Oroboros
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany37 Posts
November 18 2012 15:49 GMT
#1411
On November 19 2012 00:39 hinnolinn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:37 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:27 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


Equating a dislike of Israel's military and government with antisemitism is just straight up wrong.

edit: removed some nonsense from my post


28% are saying the support a organization who praises and practices eliminatory antisemitism and keeps its own people as hostages. and you dont let me call these 28% what they really are?


And that statement is straight up wrong also, as the poll didn't ask if people supported Hamas, but Palestine. Yes, Hamas was the democratically selected party, but that doesn't mean that people can't believe that the civilians in Palestine have a rawer deal then the citizens of Israel.


hamas are the combatants in this conflict. so the poll really asks wheter you support israel or the hamas.

also. just because participated in an election, it doesnt make them a democratic party all of a sudden. yes they won the election, but in summer of 2007 they took the power by violence and slaughtered members of the Fatah to establish their islamistic regime. those palesinians who seek for peaceful coexistence between israel and palestine have deserved better than this.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
November 18 2012 15:49 GMT
#1412
On November 19 2012 00:46 Goozen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:42 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:40 Goozen wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:36 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:29 Omri wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


What the hell does no agreeing with Israel's policy and what the IDF does has to do with hating Jews?

Didn't you know? Scolding Israeli policy is equivalent to being hitler and wanting concentration camps. It's like the nation that cries wolf, forever and soaks up the support.


When you claim that what ignorant person posts represents everyone you make yourself just as foolish as him. No one else is posting it and its clear thats not what we think. You know better then this also, yet you have no qualms using his foolishness to make you seem more "correct".


From most of the posts I've seen in this thread and from news outlets and politicians is that a comment against Israel is an antisemetic comment, no matter the case.

In that case you have should have your eyesight checked, other then maybe 2 people u have not seen it in this thread nor have i seen it by the vast majority of politicians. But, im sure you will be professional and point that massive amount of posts in this thread by different people that imply a person is anti-Semitic if he dosnt support Israel.


I should rephrase my statement, most people in this thread infer that the crimes done by Israel are not equated by those of Hamas and Hamas are more in the wrong and then Israel. Then when someone counters it's the usual "child shield" rhetoric. From media though I stand by what I said, the general consensus is (if you watch it) that you're against jews if you're critical of Israel. My apologies for insinuating that the entire thread was full of people claiming anti semetism.
FoTG fighting!
hinnolinn
Profile Joined August 2010
212 Posts
November 18 2012 15:52 GMT
#1413
On November 19 2012 00:49 Oroboros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:39 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:37 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:27 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


Equating a dislike of Israel's military and government with antisemitism is just straight up wrong.

edit: removed some nonsense from my post


28% are saying the support a organization who praises and practices eliminatory antisemitism and keeps its own people as hostages. and you dont let me call these 28% what they really are?


And that statement is straight up wrong also, as the poll didn't ask if people supported Hamas, but Palestine. Yes, Hamas was the democratically selected party, but that doesn't mean that people can't believe that the civilians in Palestine have a rawer deal then the citizens of Israel.


hamas are the combatants in this conflict. so the poll really asks wheter you support israel or the hamas.

also. just because participated in an election, it doesnt make them a democratic party all of a sudden. yes they won the election, but in summer of 2007 they took the power by violence and slaughtered members of the Fatah to establish their islamistic regime. those palesinians who seek for peaceful coexistence between israel and palestine have deserved better than this.


So let me make sure I understand what you're saying here. The poll that specifically uses the words Palestine and Israel, actually meant to use the words Hamas and EVERY JEWISH PERSON EVER? I can see how you'd confuse 28% of people with anti-Semites.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
November 18 2012 15:55 GMT
#1414
On November 19 2012 00:52 hinnolinn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:49 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:39 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:37 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:27 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


Equating a dislike of Israel's military and government with antisemitism is just straight up wrong.

edit: removed some nonsense from my post


28% are saying the support a organization who praises and practices eliminatory antisemitism and keeps its own people as hostages. and you dont let me call these 28% what they really are?


And that statement is straight up wrong also, as the poll didn't ask if people supported Hamas, but Palestine. Yes, Hamas was the democratically selected party, but that doesn't mean that people can't believe that the civilians in Palestine have a rawer deal then the citizens of Israel.


hamas are the combatants in this conflict. so the poll really asks wheter you support israel or the hamas.

also. just because participated in an election, it doesnt make them a democratic party all of a sudden. yes they won the election, but in summer of 2007 they took the power by violence and slaughtered members of the Fatah to establish their islamistic regime. those palesinians who seek for peaceful coexistence between israel and palestine have deserved better than this.


So let me make sure I understand what you're saying here. The poll that specifically uses the words Palestine and Israel, actually meant to use the words Hamas and EVERY JEWISH PERSON EVER? I can see how you'd confuse 28% of people with anti-Semites.


Lol : P All how you interpret statistics I guess.
FoTG fighting!
Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 16:02:37
November 18 2012 16:00 GMT
#1415
To those who asked before why attack the media offices, here is the reply
The Israeli military said the attacks were pinpoint strikes on Hamas communication devices located on the buildings' roofs, and accused the Islamist group of using reporters as human shields to try and protect their operations.... "Hamas took a civilian building and used it for its own needs. So the journalists ... were serving as human shields for Hamas," she said.
The military added that in order to avoid worse casualties, it had refrained from firing at an Hamas operations room which it said was located inside one of the buildings.
So it seems the office were not targeted. Full article: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/18/palestinians-israel-journalists-idUSL5E8MI45K20121118
Once again, this shows the difficultly of fighting hamas who use civilians for defense and knows that Israel try to avoid hurting them.
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 16:04:45
November 18 2012 16:02 GMT
#1416
No words needed. The video speaks for itself.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 18 2012 16:07 GMT
#1417
On November 19 2012 01:02 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
For whole of you who support Hamas: watch this video and see who you support. It speaks for itself.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOJKkLlih94


How about we stop linking these videos where everyone is trying to prove whos right and whos wrong.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
November 18 2012 16:09 GMT
#1418
I can tell you what I would do if someone fired rockets, non-stop, into the major population centers of my country. personally, I think Israel's taken a pretty low-key response to the whole thing. America stomp-smashed Imperial Japan for half of what happens to Israel.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 18 2012 16:11 GMT
#1419
On November 19 2012 00:49 Oroboros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:39 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:37 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:27 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


Equating a dislike of Israel's military and government with antisemitism is just straight up wrong.

edit: removed some nonsense from my post


28% are saying the support a organization who praises and practices eliminatory antisemitism and keeps its own people as hostages. and you dont let me call these 28% what they really are?


And that statement is straight up wrong also, as the poll didn't ask if people supported Hamas, but Palestine. Yes, Hamas was the democratically selected party, but that doesn't mean that people can't believe that the civilians in Palestine have a rawer deal then the citizens of Israel.


hamas are the combatants in this conflict. so the poll really asks wheter you support israel or the hamas.

also. just because participated in an election, it doesnt make them a democratic party all of a sudden. yes they won the election, but in summer of 2007 they took the power by violence and slaughtered members of the Fatah to establish their islamistic regime. those palesinians who seek for peaceful coexistence between israel and palestine have deserved better than this.

Don't mistake peaceniks for anti-Semites. These are the same people who complain about US using the atomic bomb or carpet bombing cities during World War II. They don't hate Jews. They just are clueless about warfare and modern armed conflict.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 16:18:54
November 18 2012 16:11 GMT
#1420
On November 19 2012 00:49 Oroboros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:39 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:37 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:27 hinnolinn wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:23 Oroboros wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:18 moskonia wrote:
I don't know if this was presented here or not, but this is a good video that explains the situation. I hope everyone here sees it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nEzvhvOcWEs


cant post often enough, as the poll suggests at least 28% antisemites here


Equating a dislike of Israel's military and government with antisemitism is just straight up wrong.

edit: removed some nonsense from my post


28% are saying the support a organization who praises and practices eliminatory antisemitism and keeps its own people as hostages. and you dont let me call these 28% what they really are?


And that statement is straight up wrong also, as the poll didn't ask if people supported Hamas, but Palestine. Yes, Hamas was the democratically selected party, but that doesn't mean that people can't believe that the civilians in Palestine have a rawer deal then the citizens of Israel.


hamas are the combatants in this conflict. so the poll really asks wheter you support israel or the hamas.
No it doesn't. The poll isn't about which combatants you prefer, and the fact that the poll option states "Palestine" not "Hamas" should of been a clue in itself.

also. just because participated in an election, it doesnt make them a democratic party all of a sudden. yes they won the election, but in summer of 2007 they took the power by violence and slaughtered members of the Fatah to establish their islamistic regime. those palesinians who seek for peaceful coexistence between israel and palestine have deserved better than this.
Palestine is a victim to a lot of conditions that Israel is at least partly responsible for. These conditions of seclusion and poverty and demolished infrastructure make a perfect breeding-ground of antisemitic propaganda.

A lot of Palestinians are no doubt very antisemitic, unfairly so. That's because they're lied to and propagandized (something I'm not sure Israel is exactly innocent of). It doesn't make them undeserving of my support.

28% of TL does not support Hamas - and thus did not at all deserve you're labeling of them as "antisemitic". I'm not sure even 1% of TL supports Hamas. I voted "neither" myself, but I think it's obvious those who voted "Palestine" did so in support of seeing Israel's counter-aggression recede, knowing that the last time this happened, a lot of civilian, non-militant Palestinians died.

If you want antisemitism to be properly scorned, then for your own benefit, label it on those who actually deserve it. We, in America, have a problem with racism, and part of the problem with our racism is it's been exaggerated at times. These unfortunate exaggerations give real racists something to hide behind. Imaginary problems tarnish the real problems.
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