EPTThe baby of a BBC Arabic cameraman was killed in Israeli air strikes on #Gaza on Wednesday which killed Hamas's #Jabari http://bbc.in/SrwmNK
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Israel Bombs Palestine; Kills Hamas Leader - Page 12
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
Jews or muslims are just about the same, both don't consider the other part human beings and want to kill them, with these kind of people in charge we will never see a end to this, not until one or the other are destroyed.. We can't expect people that believe in "gods" to be smart enough for peace.. To start beliving in a better future we have to let the past go.. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
Israel Bombs Palestine; Sensationalist title. Kills Hamas Leader False. The person killed, Ahmed Jabari, was the military leader of Hamas. The leader of Hamas is Ismail Haniyeh. | ||
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don_kyuhote
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On November 15 2012 19:45 shell wrote: This is a everlasting spiral of blood and hate.. i just wish they didn't drag the whole world with them... Jews or muslims are just about the same, both don't consider the other part human beings and want to kill them, with these kind of people in charge we will never see a end to this, not until one or the other are destroyed.. We can't expect people that believe in "gods" to be smart enough for peace.. To start beliving in a better future we have to let the past go.. It's funny actually. Both religions preach peace, and Islam is based on Judiasm. They aren't even significantly different religions really. God just reincarnated a few extra times for one of them. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On November 15 2012 19:50 Novalisk wrote: Sensationalist title. False. The person killed, Ahmed Jabari, was the military leader of Hamas. The leader of Hamas is Ismail Haniyeh. Still a leader, geez. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
Concise and accurate. False. The person killed, Ahmed Jabari, was the military leader of Hamas. The leader of Hamas is Ismail Haniyeh. Ahmed Jabari is a Hamas Leader. No one said he was the leader of Hamas. Grammar. | ||
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On November 15 2012 19:50 don_kyuhote wrote: These kinds of events will continue to happen over there until it escalate into another Yom Kippur War-esque Israel vs. multi-muslim nation war. With Mubarak gone, I can definitely see Egypt throwing their peace treaty with Israel out the window in the near future. Doubt it. They've pledged to back it. Truth be told, the last thing that country needs right now is to get involved in an external war. They can barely keep their legitimacy at home. I'd be far more worried about Iran and the Saudis. Not that the Israelis wouldn't whoop them, but in terms of long term peace. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
Was worth clearing up anyway, most people aren't aware of Hamas's heirarchy. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On November 15 2012 19:51 BluePanther wrote: It's funny actually. Both religions preach peace, and Islam is based on Judiasm. They aren't even significantly different religions really. God just reincarnated a few extra times for one of them. They are actually vastly different, both in how they perceive scripture, and how they perceive the nature of god and various other metaphysical claims. They come from the same tree, but they really don't agree on much, outside of pigs being unappealing. Which is ridiculous, because pigs are both awesome and tasty. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
but in terms of long term peace. There is no such thing in that region. And never will be. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On November 15 2012 19:53 BluePanther wrote: Doubt it. They've pledged to back it. Truth be told, the last thing that country needs right now is to get involved in an external war. They can barely keep their legitimacy at home. I'd be far more worried about Iran and the Saudis. Not that the Israelis wouldn't whoop them, but in terms of long term peace. I wouldn't worry too much about Saudi. I think the royal family is closer to Israel than they could ever publicly admit. Sure, they don't like the Israelis, and if they were all-powerful, they would eradicate every last Jew, but in reality, they are far more occupied with winning the war for Islam and defeating Iran. They need America, and they know that going against Israel in any serious fashion is not an option when the greater evil of Iran looms over them. | ||
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OOAK
Israel53 Posts
Israel can`t sit quit while people seek safe ground 10 times a night (from personal experience). And if you say why cant we sit and talk, it`s because they don't have a democracy and they are led by a terrorist organization. | ||
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CYFAWS
Sweden275 Posts
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NesquiKGG
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
Hamas should really learn how to better adopt a martyr pose, the rocket attacks are inconsequential - they'll kill a few people at most, and are terrible PR and exist merely to provoke Israel. I would honestly suspect them of wanting to provoke Israel simply to justify their existence. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 15 2012 19:58 zalz wrote: I wouldn't worry too much about Saudi. I think the royal family is closer to Israel than they could ever publicly admit. Sure, they don't like the Israelis, and if they were all-powerful, they would eradicate every last Jew, but in reality, they are far more occupied with winning the war for Islam and defeating Iran. They need America, and they know that going against Israel in any serious fashion is not an option when the greater evil of Iran looms over them. Even with Iran out of the picture, while it might cause them to focus on the Israel issue with more gravity, I can't imagine them anything extreme at all. Risking negative relations with the U.S. while simultaneously focusing their resources on an enemy that would destroy them even if Iran for some incomprehensible reason joined the cause and worked seemlessly with them as opposed to against them.... such a hypothetical simply doesn't concern me. I'm not going to lie though, while I do follow events in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia is often not a regular topic in U.S. media unless oil is concerned, so I have a very limited picture on what I imagine the Saudi Arabian military actually consists of... in terms of numbers, technology, and loyalty/training. | ||
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Oshuy
Netherlands529 Posts
(only a matter of propaganda) I really don't see any short term way out. My guess is current Israel stance is doomed as soon as they lose political support from the US. Ultimate risk for Isreal is its destruction. Wouldn't be the first time an artefact of "end of war decisions" disappears, wouldn't be the first act forced by colonial nations in the region to be reversed either. As long as Israel has international support and no united front to face them, defense against palestinians supported by Saudi Arabia and/or Syria is messy, but feasible. In the long run, they need to find another way out. | ||
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OOAK
Israel53 Posts
On November 15 2012 20:05 NesquiKGG wrote: Israel are good at telling stories about getting bombed and losing citizens .. but are they actually true? some of them might be but its not compareable to what happened to Gaza when Israel killed dozen of innocent people and call it "War" and then apologies at Davos.... YouTube itself has like thousends of Videos where Isreal soldiers threaten, kill or abuse Palastine Womens, Children and Old People... did you hear anything about a palastine man, chil or women who threaten, abused or killed a jew or isreal people?... Hamas is evil .. but this doesnt give anyone the right to kill so many innocent people... and you people defending isreal should aks yourself if you're not biased and blinded or manipulated by some fake news... :/ I rly dont know how we people gonna get a long if there are still morons killing innocent people and still getting support from their country men.... Are you serious man ?! just this morning 3 civilians were killed from Hamas rockets. in total from the year 2000 981 civilians were killed and 17200 were injured by palastinian suicide bombers and terrorists. The difference is that plastinian terrorist are hiding behind their kids and women, in schools, in hospitals like cowards after shooting rockets to israel. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On November 15 2012 20:05 NesquiKGG wrote: Israel are good at telling stories about getting bombed and losing citizens .. but are they actually true? some of them might be but its not compareable to what happened to Gaza when Israel killed dozen of innocent people and call it "War" and then apologies at Davos.... YouTube itself has like thousends of Videos where Isreal soldiers threaten, kill or abuse Palastine Womens, Children and Old People... did you hear anything about a palastine man, chil or women who threaten, abused or killed a jew or isreal people?... Hamas is evil .. but this doesnt give anyone the right to kill so many innocent people... and you people defending isreal should aks yourself if you're not biased and blinded or manipulated by some fake news... :/ I rly dont know how we people gonna get a long if there are still morons killing innocent people and still getting support from their country men.... You should wonder if the excuse of fake news isn't just a cheap attempt to discredit very respected news establishments, so you can in turn conjure up any story you like, because you can disregard anything that doesn't fit your narrative as "fake news". | ||
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