On September 25 2012 08:53 marttorn wrote: I think a lot of people are feeling bitter because it's really really big now, but they saw it before it was 'cool'. Also, what jalstar said.
I don't mind.
I do think that other songs by him are better, yes, but he did what he wanted to do: Do something shocking for his fans, just like how he debuted back in 2001. He did it very well, and the international hit just... happened out of nowhere.
But yeah, if I wanted to be hipster, you guys have no idea how good Psy's songs are
10원짜리야
(jk, you guys are not worth 10 won. But hopefully some people get the reference, especially those crying 'Psy's other songs were better')
It's pop music, which means it's actually shit music. Add the same moronic catchy rhythms, some women because sex sells, mix together with dancing like having a seizure in the video clip and there you go, you have a "hit" song. A song by the way, that is pretty much "composed" (if something so terrible can actually be composed) for the most of the time by someone else.
If the singer sucks they can always use those sound programs to fix it. Pop (industrial) music is terrible because it has nothing to do with actual musicianship, just some guy jumping like a monkey/women showing as much skin as possible and singing whatever he/she wants because the same formula will work no matter what.
Anyone remember Rebecca Black?
Mainstream listener is the bane of actual, solid musicianship.
On September 25 2012 08:37 Cowman wrote: 1. Gangnam Style is a great song 2. Last time that I checked, no one in my house is dancing to it, none of the popular kids in my school even know about it 3. He made the music video for fun dude, just let it be! He is just doing his job by making songs
Oh man. Everyone in my school is raving about it haha. And I'm all like in my corner, I showed you it before and they are like "dis shit is stupid" and now they're like "oh man gangnam style is the best shit"
he follow what's hip? he has one of the most unique singing/dancing/humor among any artists. This has been a common trend since his debut over a decade ago.
On September 25 2012 08:24 Gangnam Style wrote: + Show Spoiler +
I respect the fact that the guy attended Berklee. But it seems like he just does whatever is 'hip' in order to try and become famous. And he is famous, good for him, but he is the prime example of selling out. Like this 90s American pop/rap he used to try to do:
Discuss.
Because singing about how great one's father is and the sacrifices he's made was a common American pop/rap genre. You arguably gave the worst possible song ever as an example for trying to follow pop/rap trends.
tell me this isn't good
On September 25 2012 08:56 Bleak wrote: It's pop music, which means it's actually shit music. Add the same moronic catchy rhythms, some women because sex sells, mix together with dancing like having a seizure in the video clip and there you go, you have a "hit" song. A song by the way, that is pretty much "composed" (if something so terrible can actually be composed) for the most of the time by someone else.
If the singer sucks they can always use those sound programs to fix it. Pop (industrial) music is terrible because it has nothing to do with actual musicianship, just some guy jumping like a monkey and singing whatever he wants because the same formula will work no matter what.
Anyone remember Rebecca Black?
Mainstream listener is the bane of actual, solid musicianship.
Thing is, he doesn't autotune and his voice is quite fantastic compared to the majority of mainstream singers
Its a fun song, right? It plays all the time at the restaurant I work at. I catch some of the waitresses humming it at odd moments, even though they haven't seen its video. Its just a cool fun song.
And we all know the video is a lot of fun.
Why worry so much? Save the aesthetics talk for those with a more serious claim as artists, not merely entertainers.
You haven't even said anything about why you think the song is bad. All of your points are that the people who like the song don't have good reasons to like it.
I think it's hilarious that it's gotten so huge, and I'm glad, even though each time I listen to it, I get a little more tired of it. There's something really funny and cute about a bunch of Ellen audience members dancing to it and screaming as well.
It probably wouldn't hurt for some of the really ignorant to have a reason to mentally distinguish South Korea from the North, even if this song isn't the ideal first impression.
On September 25 2012 08:53 marttorn wrote: I think a lot of people are feeling bitter because it's really really big now, but they saw it before it was 'cool'. Also, what jalstar said.
That happens to many artists who just suddenly hit the spotlight. It's just that mentality that "I'm cooler than you because I knew about them before you did or even before they were famous" kind of deal. Sure it bugs me sometimes, especially when some people who don't know Kpop just suddenly think they are so engrossed into it even though they only watched Gangnam style and maybe a few other mainstream songs. That's the only problem I have with Gangnam style being popularized. Otherwise I'm pretty happy that Kpop is getting more awareness and that Psy had a great comeback. Though this thread is not really thread worthy in the first place. It's more of an opinion based thread and OP, and should be discussed in the KMD thread. However it's been killed to death many times over already.
I listen and watch the video because I think its hilarious and entertaining. Not good, or bad, just awesome. Regardless of what anyone else thinks. I think that's how most anything is, pop-culture or the most underground stuff, people in general just like what they like THEN identify with the other people around them who share their opinions, not the other way around. Outside of middle school liking something PURELY because it is "pop-culture" is pretty rare. IMO.
Well I can honestly say its my favourite music video in who knows how long. Its catchy, rediculous, epic, and awesome. Psy's dancing is fantastic and he should get a statue. It is THAT good. I wish I could dance like that...
I thought it was pretty funny the first few times I saw it. I wouldn't really consider any pop music to be good though. It's good for what it is I guess.