On September 25 2012 08:56 Bleak wrote: It's pop music, which means it's actually shit music. Add the same moronic catchy rhythms, some women because sex sells, mix together with dancing like having a seizure in the video clip and there you go, you have a "hit" song. A song by the way, that is pretty much "composed" (if something so terrible can actually be composed) for the most of the time by someone else.
If the singer sucks they can always use those sound programs to fix it. Pop (industrial) music is terrible because it has nothing to do with actual musicianship, just some guy jumping like a monkey/women showing as much skin as possible and singing whatever he/she wants because the same formula will work no matter what.
Anyone remember Rebecca Black?
Mainstream listener is the bane of actual, solid musicianship.
Define actual musicianship just to make me laugh.
And by the way, Psy must be a good musician, we went to Berklee.
Yeah, I think it's pretty good. I'm definitely not one who'll play it everyday over and over. I've been a fan of Psy since I heard "새 - Bird" on Music Bank when I was in middle school or something. It's catchy, but the actual melody behind the music is the same musical phrase consistently repeated over and over again with no variation.
He also breaks the current Korean pop star stereotype that you have to be a young pretty boy/girl band to be successful
There's a part of the Korean public who doesn't like Psy becasue he didn't properly serve his military service so he had to do a second term...to me that wasn't a big deal but some of the general public seemed to care because he didn't fulfill his legal obligation properly the first time.
On September 25 2012 08:25 Pibacc wrote: The actual meaning of the song is rather deep. I'll try to find a good article on it because I can't really explain it.
you can say that about every song ever created really...
i think the general consensus over at KMD is "the song is fine, we're just tired of hearing it." There are other songs to listen to from both Psy and other groups.
You don't understand how pop culture works. You really don't...people actually like it you know, it is not just a way to fit in. It is just different tastes and cutural upbringings ffs..
On September 25 2012 08:25 Pibacc wrote: The actual meaning of the song is rather deep. I'll try to find a good article on it because I can't really explain it.
you can say that about every song ever created really...
You do realize all you're doing is trying to look cool by dissing something popular, since that helps you feel good about yourself and fit in socially? Noone expects pop music, especially viral pop music, to be deep meaningful and long-lasting. It's just a silly song people find fun.
Thats the most idiotic point of view I have heard in a while. It does not even make any real sense and you should realize that your comment is even more bashing pop music by saying it is inherently worthless. "Pop" is for popular and saying that something popular can not have some quality is just a sign of defeatism.
As for the meaning of the lyrics, Moomu has posted a nice link everyone should check on.
If you're going to call someone's view idiotic, it would be nice if you displayed basic reading comprehension. The only thing more common than dissing something just because it's popular is liking something just because it's popular, if you're not aware of that you must not get out much. You should also realize the only one saying pop music is inherently worthless is you. I made no such claims. I said noone expects pop music to be deep and meaningful because, news flash, just because something is popular doesn't make it good. There's plenty of good pop songs, which are vastly outnumbered by the bad pop songs. If you expect the number one song on the charts to be the best and most meaningful song of the moment, 9 times out of 10 you're going to have a bad time. I had read Moomu's link long before this thread was ever posted, and it doesn't change that to all the people enjoying Gangnam Style it is a silly song people find fun. I'll retract that statement once I see PSY lead a march to whatever the Korean equivalent of the Washington monument is.
On September 25 2012 09:25 Ryshi wrote: While the song is fun and catchy, I read a post that explains its deeper meaning. As an example, the song can be compared to Eminem's "Without Me": A catchy tune + criticism on society.
LINK HERE It's not like previous post didn't have explanations, but I just found this post much easier to read and much more convincing.
On September 25 2012 08:24 Gangnam Style wrote: I respect the fact that the guy attended Berklee. But it seems like he just does whatever is 'hip' in order to try and become famous. And he is famous, good for him, but he is the prime example of selling out. Like this 90s American pop/rap he used to try to do: Discuss.
Do you follow k-pop? If you did, you'd know he's not selling out. His mv is not even close to standard kpop, which is usually full of flashy cool dances (vs funny) and hot guys and girls. It's very rare that a guy like Psy (30+ yrs and slightly overweight) reaches that level of popularity with the younger crowd of South Korea, which is generally very superficial with their celebrity interests. Tons of my k-pop friends were initially lamenting that it was this song, and not one by SNSD or 2NE1, that was the international break-out song of korea.
Just youtube mv's of "beast korea", "se7en korea", "troublemaker korea", etc. and you'll get an idea of how different Psy is to them. Just because he isn't artsy-fartsy doesn't mean he's a sell out.
This song played in my colleges caf last week. It's making work hard considering how I've had Kpop hard coded alongside Starcraft for the past.. several years...
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