EPTGood on everyone posting here.... Keep the foxes out of our henhouse! As for Blackfoger, sorry to say that I think at this point you're trying to put a Band-aid on a gunshot wound. The damage you've done is widely remembered and now documented on this site. The shadows of your past will preclude any future for you here, your reputation hopefully preceding you and safeguarding our talent. Move along, sir.
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Prophanity
United States165 Posts
Good on everyone posting here.... Keep the foxes out of our henhouse! As for Blackfoger, sorry to say that I think at this point you're trying to put a Band-aid on a gunshot wound. The damage you've done is widely remembered and now documented on this site. The shadows of your past will preclude any future for you here, your reputation hopefully preceding you and safeguarding our talent. Move along, sir. | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
On September 07 2012 08:42 Blackfoger wrote: See right there misquoting what he said it was in a Audio interview and he said he saw it on an online email transcript. Then again he had not posted any of the proof thus it's a running "gag" If we shut down operations we can't pay off debt because we have source of revenue. Think of it this way, we have sponsors that pay say 1500 a month and we only use 1000 of that for players. We are not accumulating more debt we use the extra 500 a month to pay old expenses. Our current plan is slowly working well, we will be announcing another sponsor shortly that will help our teams. With this new company can work to progress quicker but if people email them it causes us to go backwords. Wait a second are you paying old expenses with ur sponsored money? I don't think that's a wise choice at all. I think the sponsors will get quite frustrated if you uses their money to pay off ur own mistakes? that's just LOL | ||
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:10 SilSol wrote: Wait a second are you paying old expenses with ur sponsored money? I don't think that's a wise choice at all. I think the sponsors will get quite frustrated if you uses their money to pay off ur own mistakes? that's just LOL Well said, Silsol. You shouldn't use your sponsor money to pay off your failures. Clear your debts, then try again. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:18 Diamond wrote: This has to be the most honest team name in E-Sports. I laughed. | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
Using sponsorship money to pay off ur mistakes is NOT ok. | ||
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nBk
174 Posts
On September 07 2012 08:42 Blackfoger wrote: See right there misquoting what he said it was in a Audio interview and he said he saw it on an online email transcript. Then again he had not posted any of the proof thus it's a running "gag" If we shut down operations we can't pay off debt because we have source of revenue. Think of it this way, we have sponsors that pay say 1500 a month and we only use 1000 of that for players. We are not accumulating more debt we use the extra 500 a month to pay old expenses. Our current plan is slowly working well, we will be announcing another sponsor shortly that will help our teams. With this new company can work to progress quicker but if people email them it causes us to go backwords. Whoa, whoa whoa!! This is NOT okay by any means. The debts you've attained over the years should be dealt with by YOU, and YOU only. Take some damned responsibility for your past actions. In a way you're actually scamming the sponsors to pay for your own fuck ups. I'm sure they're unaware of this as well. | ||
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cmgillett
United States335 Posts
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
It's kinda annoying reading all of his replies, as they're all half-assed and clearly not reread for simple grammar and spelling errors. I wonder how old this guy is? | ||
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Blackfoger
81 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:35 cmgillett wrote: they don't have sponsors, everything is fake. He lives in his mother's basement and has fabricated this entire thing. No none of that is true in the least bit can you provide evidence. We are not currently paying off debts with sponsors I meant it as an example. If we shut down operations there would be no advertising income from adsense or donations which we do use to pay people back including the money from my pocket. Shutting down would hurt our current teams and sponsors such as when we did in the past. I meant it as please refrain from emailing our new sponsors being released as they are the one's supporting crane and our current team what purpose does it serve sabotaging the current deal the players are getting if we are going to be delivering to them. | ||
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Mithrandir
United States99 Posts
Entrepreneur, I started a successful and highly esteemed team with numerous sponsors and fans. | ||
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Galetmonster
Sweden151 Posts
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Zennith
United States795 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:40 Blackfoger wrote: No none of that is true in the least bit can you provide evidence. We are not currently paying off debts with sponsors I meant it as an example. If we shut down operations there would be no advertising income from adsense or donations which we do use to pay people back including the money from my pocket. Shutting down would hurt our current teams and sponsors such as when we did in the past. I meant it as please refrain from emailing our new sponsors being released as they are the one's supporting crane and our current team what purpose does it serve sabotaging the current deal the players are getting if we are going to be delivering to them. We're not trying to sabotage the players. We're trying to get rid of you. There's a big difference. EDIT: Also, backpeddle faster. | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:43 Galetmonster wrote: Blackfoger please die I think this post is not ok, just because he makes mistakes and lies about giving people their money and trying to get out from a situation he started himself by using his sponsorship money. You said u use them, are you saying ur not now? | ||
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Battleaxe
United States843 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:40 Blackfoger wrote: No none of that is true in the least bit can you provide evidence. We are not currently paying off debts with sponsors I meant it as an example. If we shut down operations there would be no advertising income from adsense or donations which we do use to pay people back including the money from my pocket. Shutting down would hurt our current teams and sponsors such as when we did in the past. I meant it as please refrain from emailing our new sponsors being released as they are the one's supporting crane and our current team what purpose does it serve sabotaging the current deal the players are getting if we are going to be delivering to them. Probably because based on numerous reports you do not actually deliver what you or your 'organization' promises, and if you do it appears to be much less then what was originally agreed upon. Just taking a quick peek at your website, your banner shows Dolby, Owned.tv, and Rj's Creative Studios as sponsors. If you look on your right side bar, only owned and dolby are listed. In addition, if we go to your sponsor page, you have WSAD keyboards listed, which is listed nowhere in the banner or on the right hand side sponsor area. Now, I understand sponsors pay for different things, however with this much inconsistency, and the fact that generally a dedicated sponsor page lists all of the organization's sponsors, I'm leaning toward your only current sponsorship being WSAD keyboards, keeping the banner because it looks cool and you don't have a graphics guy to change (or know how to change it yourself), along with keeping the right side sponsors of owned and dolby because they are big names. I hope this thread continues as it has until some solid evidence can be proved or we can see some verifiable evidence from one of your players stating the agreement they have with you is currently being met in full Edit: Post below mentioned WSAD is not longer a sponsor, so I would like to know who the current team sponsors actually are. That's fine if you have 'announcements' coming on new sponsors, whatever. Who is sponsoring you right now, and why is your website so out of date? You don't even have any of your SC2 players listed on your team section ffs | ||
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zaxx
United States66 Posts
> Is using sponsor money to pay past debts wrong?? Great start to earning the respect of this community. Taking sponsor money they give you for exposure and using it to pay back personal debts that you owe due to your lack of morals in the eSports community. He hasn't changed in 8 years, doubt he is going to start now. | ||
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:47 Battleaxe wrote: Probably because based on numerous reports you do not actually deliver what you or your 'organization' promises, and if you do it appears to be much less then what was originally agreed upon. Just taking a quick peek at your website, your banner shows Dolby, Owned.tv, and Rj's Creative Studios as sponsors. If you look on your right side bar, only owned and dolby are listed. In addition, if we go to your sponsor page, you have WSAD keyboards listed, which is listed nowhere in the banner or on the right hand side sponsor area. Now, I understand sponsors pay for different things, however with this much inconsistency, and the fact that generally a dedicated sponsor page lists all of the organization's sponsors, I'm leaning toward your only current sponsorship being WSAD keyboards, keeping the banner because it looks cool and you don't have a graphics guy to change (or know how to change it yourself), along with keeping the right side sponsors of owned and dolby because they are big names. I hope this thread continues as it has until some solid evidence can be proved or we can see some verifiable evidence from one of your players stating the agreement they have with you is currently being met in full He mentioned earlier that he lost the WASD sponsorship because of the community emailing the sponsors with negativity. So, now I ask, which ones are real? | ||
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stjartrov
Sweden81 Posts
To me it looks like you are avoiding all questions that actually are of any real interest. Frankly, from reading the thread and your answers in it, your behavior is on par with a child trying to cover up something naughty he's done from his parents. Your grammar and way of defending yourself isn't helping your case either. | ||
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DougJDempsey
747 Posts
On September 07 2012 08:42 Blackfoger wrote: See right there misquoting what he said it was in a Audio interview and he said he saw it on an online email transcript. Then again he had not posted any of the proof thus it's a running "gag" If we shut down operations we can't pay off debt because we have source of revenue. Think of it this way, we have sponsors that pay say 1500 a month and we only use 1000 of that for players. We are not accumulating more debt we use the extra 500 a month to pay old expenses. Our current plan is slowly working well, we will be announcing another sponsor shortly that will help our teams. With this new company can work to progress quicker but if people email them it causes us to go backwords. "i dont think this hole is deep enough. Lets dig deeper" | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:34 nBk wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa!! This is NOT okay by any means. The debts you've attained over the years should be dealt with by YOU, and YOU only. Take some damned responsibility for your past actions. In a way you're actually scamming the sponsors to pay for your own fuck ups. I'm sure they're unaware of this as well. Nah man its not his fault hes just u know taking care of business by using someone else's money intended to sponsor a current team to pay off older debits. No worries man its perfectly okay. Its like credit cards, get a couple use one to pay off the other and it all works out until it catches up but no worries if we just keep paying off the debt with other income thats not intended to pay off the debt then in the future more money will land in his lap to pay for everything. | ||
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