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SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
September 06 2012 23:01 GMT
#261
On September 07 2012 07:48 Brasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:45 EliteSK wrote:
According to this article from nerdbuster which was posted earlier:
http://www.nerdbuster.com/2011/11/blackfoger-has-been-caught-in-dirty-dealings-again/

This is one of his registered LLC's :"Hilda James LLC"
http://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/search_detail.aspx?ubi=602661412
which are put under his parents' names, according to the article. And it expires at the end of October this year....

If you google the address real quick, it's pretty obvious that it's someones residence as well...

If you really want to live up to past mistakes and didn't change your name as a result, it just means worse if this guy fucks up again since it seems like he has more mess ups than real successes cause I've hardly read anything good about him. It's "don't fuck up" or the shitstorm is only going to get worse.



who are Rich and Sue Larsen? his parents? He's not even an owner of his company?


A running "gag" was that he was going around sponsoring teams with his parents Credit Card. Not sure if there is any truth to it or w/e.

EliteSK
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)251 Posts
September 06 2012 23:03 GMT
#262
On September 07 2012 07:57 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:48 Blackfoger wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:43 BroOd wrote:
Anyone who gets into business with this guy should expect nothing but headaches and broken promises. That apology is crammed with terms that sound like he them picked up from a cursory google search for "business plans". I really hope people reach out to these players and help them understand what a shady situation they're in.


I did not google anything in that apology as you can see it was written awhile back..

I don't know how the second part of that statement follows the first, but let's not dwell on that. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in this situation if you do one simple thing: explain, without being vague, your 5-year plan and how you intend to maximize the "ROI" you mentioned. I don't want to hear any bullshit about proprietary information or trade secrets or really anything other than "this is Blight gamings viable business model going forward: ___________."


We have set up a marketing plan, 5 year business plan, set up meetings with Angel Investors and venture capitalists, devised a way to get a real ROI from gaming teams besides hoping to win 1st place prize and take 20% of winnings


Just quoted that from his letter and I'm curious as well as to what this really is.
BPLOL
Profile Joined February 2012
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 23:12:41
September 06 2012 23:07 GMT
#263
On September 07 2012 07:57 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:48 Blackfoger wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:43 BroOd wrote:
Anyone who gets into business with this guy should expect nothing but headaches and broken promises. That apology is crammed with terms that sound like he them picked up from a cursory google search for "business plans". I really hope people reach out to these players and help them understand what a shady situation they're in.


I did not google anything in that apology as you can see it was written awhile back..

I don't know how the second part of that statement follows the first, but let's not dwell on that. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in this situation if you do one simple thing: explain, without being vague, your 5-year plan and how you intend to maximize the "ROI" you mentioned. I don't want to hear any bullshit about proprietary information or trade secrets or really anything other than "this is Blight gamings viable business model going forward: ___________."



This would be a great start to clearing your name.

This apology that you wrote is quite frankly garbage. Its nothing but fluff, you don't address most of the issues being brought up in this thread, it's littered with spelling errors (where is your staff?), and is really just poorly worded.

You have no proof that you are going to actually support your players or teams moving forward, so why should anyone believe anything BUT the past?

Really, from what I've been reading about your past contracts with your players, I'm surprised no legal action has been taken against you, and I really hope crane sees this for what it is and leaves the team. You need to stop this before you get yourself in serious trouble.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
September 06 2012 23:08 GMT
#264
On September 07 2012 07:30 Brasi wrote:
I Just checked the secretary of state website and there are no LLCs with blight in the name. One corporation but that was inactive as of 2000 and registered to a guy in yakima.

There are two LLC's with registered agents of "James Larsen", one is 'Aggregate Construction LLC' and the other is 'Section 8 Customs, LLC' registered in Auburn.

which one is yours?


Last time people pressured him on this and he clarified he ended up leaking/releaseing/revealing/having people find out his home address along with his parents names. Funnily enough they were the ones who signed the legal documents at the time, since he was underage then (He's definitely paying for this himself guys!!!). Was pretty silly seeing him scam and write people off and then personal information getting found.

While I don't encourage people to do anythingor use violence against anyone I definitely wouldn't mind pressuring him if he put someone like Crank in an unfortunate position.

That said, this whole thing is silly. About as silly as making the thread in the first place. If he was doing this correctly he wouldn't even be making stuff public, which you'd assume would mean he's professing his innocence; sadly, some people just don't use their brain very well. The language, tone, spelling, and grammar used in his "professional post" on his website makes everything pretty blatant though. He doesn't care. We should notify the correct people of his actions, get them to distance themselves if they're involved, and just ignore this poor soul who claims to be a part of human society.
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Blackfoger
Profile Joined April 2011
81 Posts
September 06 2012 23:19 GMT
#265
Last Time I am going to post as things are starting to go round and round. Yes sorry my english isn't the best doesn't mean that it isn't honest.

"You have no proof that you are going to actually support your players or teams moving forward, so why should anyone believe anything BUT the past?" For awhile we are actually supporting our players to our teams and been slowly paying debts...

If you have any questions you can always add me on skype for more clarification. Our next player as well as a new sponsor will be announced shortly. I do ask you not email our sponsors as it doesn't help the situation. Please just let us deliver and rebuild our reputation through actions.
Kenny_oro
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany368 Posts
September 06 2012 23:22 GMT
#266
Just deliver - and the community might one day forgive you ... you should know by now that you have done too many faults to do one more and still be forgiven ...
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MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
September 06 2012 23:26 GMT
#267
On September 07 2012 07:45 EliteSK wrote:
According to this article from nerdbuster which was posted earlier in the earlier pages of this thread:
http://www.nerdbuster.com/2011/11/blackfoger-has-been-caught-in-dirty-dealings-again/

This is one of his registered LLC's :"Hilda James LLC" -taken from above nerdbuster article
http://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/search_detail.aspx?ubi=602661412
which are put under his parents' names, according to the article. And it expires at the end of October this year....

If you google the address real quick, it's pretty obvious that it's someones residence as well...

If you really want to live up to past mistakes and didn't change your name as a result, it just means worse if this guy fucks up again since it seems like he has more mess ups than real successes cause I've hardly read anything good about him. It's "don't fuck up" or the shitstorm is only going to get worse.

Also his blog post on his website doesn't have line breaks between the question and the answer and its pretty annoying to read...

THIS PART of his apology letter:
Show nested quote +
" We have been paying off past debts and will be continuing to do so, as some people have stated we shouldn't be sponsoring any teams until our past debts are cleared and paid up. While I agree with that statement, we can't pay our past debts if we aren't currently in business or sponsoring"


So you need to be in business to rack up more debt to pay off debt... This makes no sense; you're just digging this hole deeper...

Edited to add a couple more thoughts/clarification.


Nerdbuster isn't the most reliable source for information or basing your accusations on.

I don't know who this guy is or what he done but reading a lot of these posts makes me cringe. There are a lot of pathetic people who have no input other then insults and accusations.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
September 06 2012 23:28 GMT
#268
On September 07 2012 08:19 Blackfoger wrote:
Last Time I am going to post as things are starting to go round and round. Yes sorry my english isn't the best doesn't mean that it isn't honest.

"You have no proof that you are going to actually support your players or teams moving forward, so why should anyone believe anything BUT the past?" For awhile we are actually supporting our players to our teams and been slowly paying debts...

If you have any questions you can always add me on skype for more clarification. Our next player as well as a new sponsor will be announced shortly. I do ask you not email our sponsors as it doesn't help the situation. Please just let us deliver and rebuild our reputation through actions.

I think it's incredibly telling that when you're pressed for details and specifics you decide it's time to dip out of the conversation under the guise of things going "round and round". It's a real shame that you treat this dialogue with such little respect even though it's the first step towards you actually gaining a modicum of our respect. Every single time you get backed into a corner you tell people to add you on skype and that you'll explain to them in person, which flies directly in the face of the transparency you claim to be striving for. You've done it in many of the chat logs linked here, and it just leads me to believe that you're comporting yourself in the same old way you always have, which is with little regard to planning, logistics, business sense, common courtesy or professionalism. You've got a long way to go before anyone here will support Blight gaming, and pretending like we're the problem isn't going to get you there.
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 06 2012 23:28 GMT
#269
If everything said in this thread is true, then the name blight is dreadfully appropriate.
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Blackfoger
Profile Joined April 2011
81 Posts
September 06 2012 23:34 GMT
#270
On September 07 2012 08:28 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:19 Blackfoger wrote:
Last Time I am going to post as things are starting to go round and round. Yes sorry my english isn't the best doesn't mean that it isn't honest.

"You have no proof that you are going to actually support your players or teams moving forward, so why should anyone believe anything BUT the past?" For awhile we are actually supporting our players to our teams and been slowly paying debts...

If you have any questions you can always add me on skype for more clarification. Our next player as well as a new sponsor will be announced shortly. I do ask you not email our sponsors as it doesn't help the situation. Please just let us deliver and rebuild our reputation through actions.

I think it's incredibly telling that when you're pressed for details and specifics you decide it's time to dip out of the conversation under the guise of things going "round and round". It's a real shame that you treat this dialogue with such little respect even though it's the first step towards you actually gaining a modicum of our respect. Every single time you get backed into a corner you tell people to add you on skype and that you'll explain to them in person, which flies directly in the face of the transparency you claim to be striving for. You've done it in many of the chat logs linked here, and it just leads me to believe that you're comporting yourself in the same old way you always have, which is with little regard to planning, logistics, business sense, common courtesy or professionalism. You've got a long way to go before anyone here will support Blight gaming, and pretending like we're the problem isn't going to get you there.


I said that because it literally has gone round and round. I have answered these questions before and just starting to become tiresome when I have loads of other work for my players not to mention I am still sick. I am not trying to run or dip out of the conversation just when you get asked same thing fifty times the fifty first time gets tiresome. Many people have been supporting us in other communities, people that actually know us and our history besides some of the random posts and hate we are recieving.
EliteSK
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)251 Posts
September 06 2012 23:37 GMT
#271
On September 07 2012 08:26 MonkSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:45 EliteSK wrote:
According to this article from nerdbuster which was posted earlier in the earlier pages of this thread:
http://www.nerdbuster.com/2011/11/blackfoger-has-been-caught-in-dirty-dealings-again/

This is one of his registered LLC's :"Hilda James LLC" -taken from above nerdbuster article
http://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/search_detail.aspx?ubi=602661412
which are put under his parents' names, according to the article. And it expires at the end of October this year....

If you google the address real quick, it's pretty obvious that it's someones residence as well...

If you really want to live up to past mistakes and didn't change your name as a result, it just means worse if this guy fucks up again since it seems like he has more mess ups than real successes cause I've hardly read anything good about him. It's "don't fuck up" or the shitstorm is only going to get worse.

Also his blog post on his website doesn't have line breaks between the question and the answer and its pretty annoying to read...

THIS PART of his apology letter:
" We have been paying off past debts and will be continuing to do so, as some people have stated we shouldn't be sponsoring any teams until our past debts are cleared and paid up. While I agree with that statement, we can't pay our past debts if we aren't currently in business or sponsoring"


So you need to be in business to rack up more debt to pay off debt... This makes no sense; you're just digging this hole deeper...

Edited to add a couple more thoughts/clarification.


Nerdbuster isn't the most reliable source for information or basing your accusations on.

I don't know who this guy is or what he done but reading a lot of these posts makes me cringe. There are a lot of pathetic people who have no input other then insults and accusations.


I apologize if I quoted any inaccurate info since that was the only one available that had any connection to what he has said, such as having two LLC in Washington state, none of which are under his name, apparently...

Some accusations did come from me which may have been rude and presumptuous of me since I have no direct experience with him.

He states he has a marketing plan and business model to pay off all the debt he's accumulated until now, and honestly, I'm just curious to what that is just as some other people here in this thread.

Here is one observation though; He operated his business/team and accumulated debt until now, and he plans to continue business in order to pay off the debt while at the same time, he accumulates more debt by operating this business unless his new business plan works; it also sounds dependent on the fact that his meetings with angel investors and venture capitalists are successful...
djc
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 23:38:26
September 06 2012 23:38 GMT
#272
On September 07 2012 08:01 SpiZe wrote:
A running "gag" was that he was going around sponsoring teams with his parents Credit Card. Not sure if there is any truth to it or w/e.


One of the TF2 players for one of the many Blight teams saw some kind of Paypal receipt that had "Susan Larsen" listed as the cardholder.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
September 06 2012 23:40 GMT
#273
On September 07 2012 08:34 Blackfoger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:28 BroOd wrote:
On September 07 2012 08:19 Blackfoger wrote:
Last Time I am going to post as things are starting to go round and round. Yes sorry my english isn't the best doesn't mean that it isn't honest.

"You have no proof that you are going to actually support your players or teams moving forward, so why should anyone believe anything BUT the past?" For awhile we are actually supporting our players to our teams and been slowly paying debts...

If you have any questions you can always add me on skype for more clarification. Our next player as well as a new sponsor will be announced shortly. I do ask you not email our sponsors as it doesn't help the situation. Please just let us deliver and rebuild our reputation through actions.

I think it's incredibly telling that when you're pressed for details and specifics you decide it's time to dip out of the conversation under the guise of things going "round and round". It's a real shame that you treat this dialogue with such little respect even though it's the first step towards you actually gaining a modicum of our respect. Every single time you get backed into a corner you tell people to add you on skype and that you'll explain to them in person, which flies directly in the face of the transparency you claim to be striving for. You've done it in many of the chat logs linked here, and it just leads me to believe that you're comporting yourself in the same old way you always have, which is with little regard to planning, logistics, business sense, common courtesy or professionalism. You've got a long way to go before anyone here will support Blight gaming, and pretending like we're the problem isn't going to get you there.


I said that because it literally has gone round and round. I have answered these questions before and just starting to become tiresome when I have loads of other work for my players not to mention I am still sick. I am not trying to run or dip out of the conversation just when you get asked same thing fifty times the fifty first time gets tiresome. Many people have been supporting us in other communities, people that actually know us and our history besides some of the random posts and hate we are recieving.

Oh, my mistake. Can you link me to where you posted the specifics I was talking about? I must have missed them.
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Blackfoger
Profile Joined April 2011
81 Posts
September 06 2012 23:42 GMT
#274
On September 07 2012 08:38 djc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:01 SpiZe wrote:
A running "gag" was that he was going around sponsoring teams with his parents Credit Card. Not sure if there is any truth to it or w/e.


One of the TF2 players for one of the many Blight teams saw some kind of Paypal receipt that had "Susan Larsen" listed as the cardholder.


See right there misquoting what he said it was in a Audio interview and he said he saw it on an online email transcript. Then again he had not posted any of the proof thus it's a running "gag"


If we shut down operations we can't pay off debt because we have source of revenue. Think of it this way, we have sponsors that pay say 1500 a month and we only use 1000 of that for players. We are not accumulating more debt we use the extra 500 a month to pay old expenses. Our current plan is slowly working well, we will be announcing another sponsor shortly that will help our teams. With this new company can work to progress quicker but if people email them it causes us to go backwords.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 23:50:20
September 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#275
On September 07 2012 08:42 Blackfoger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:38 djc wrote:
On September 07 2012 08:01 SpiZe wrote:
A running "gag" was that he was going around sponsoring teams with his parents Credit Card. Not sure if there is any truth to it or w/e.


One of the TF2 players for one of the many Blight teams saw some kind of Paypal receipt that had "Susan Larsen" listed as the cardholder.


See right there misquoting what he said it was in a Audio interview and he said he saw it on an online email transcript. Then again he had not posted any of the proof thus it's a running "gag"


If we shut down operations we can't pay off debt because we have source of revenue. Think of it this way, we have sponsors that pay say 1500 a month and we only use 1000 of that for players. We are not accumulating more debt we use the extra 500 a month to pay old expenses. Our current plan is slowly working well, we will be announcing another sponsor shortly that will help our teams. With this new company can work to progress quicker but if people email them it causes us to go backwords.


What the fuck? You use sponsor money to pay off your debt? LOL Jesus christ. Just get the fuck out.

p.s: closing down "blight" doesn't mean you don't have an ethical obligation to pay people back. Otherwise, you know, you can sort of go to jail. Especially when you even noted yourself people /do/ have the choice to sue you in some cases.

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Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 23:50:37
September 06 2012 23:50 GMT
#276
On September 07 2012 08:34 Blackfoger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:28 BroOd wrote:
On September 07 2012 08:19 Blackfoger wrote:
Last Time I am going to post as things are starting to go round and round. Yes sorry my english isn't the best doesn't mean that it isn't honest.

"You have no proof that you are going to actually support your players or teams moving forward, so why should anyone believe anything BUT the past?" For awhile we are actually supporting our players to our teams and been slowly paying debts...

If you have any questions you can always add me on skype for more clarification. Our next player as well as a new sponsor will be announced shortly. I do ask you not email our sponsors as it doesn't help the situation. Please just let us deliver and rebuild our reputation through actions.

I think it's incredibly telling that when you're pressed for details and specifics you decide it's time to dip out of the conversation under the guise of things going "round and round". It's a real shame that you treat this dialogue with such little respect even though it's the first step towards you actually gaining a modicum of our respect. Every single time you get backed into a corner you tell people to add you on skype and that you'll explain to them in person, which flies directly in the face of the transparency you claim to be striving for. You've done it in many of the chat logs linked here, and it just leads me to believe that you're comporting yourself in the same old way you always have, which is with little regard to planning, logistics, business sense, common courtesy or professionalism. You've got a long way to go before anyone here will support Blight gaming, and pretending like we're the problem isn't going to get you there.


I said that because it literally has gone round and round. I have answered these questions before and just starting to become tiresome when I have loads of other work for my players not to mention I am still sick. I am not trying to run or dip out of the conversation just when you get asked same thing fifty times the fifty first time gets tiresome. Many people have been supporting us in other communities, people that actually know us and our history besides some of the random posts and hate we are recieving.


Why not make a dedicated thread to answer all the fifty questions you've been answering..? It also redirects the debate about your person to a new location instead of this thread. This new thread would include a personal statement, FAQ, (fifty asked questions), remorse, a plan to redeem yourself and some dates to verify the plan is working. This to validate your actions by the community to have a possibility of regaining some respect.

Yes the community will probably want follow your actions, based on passed results.. They probably will do so either way, better to let them see you're trying to right the wrongs than a continuation of your previous endeavours.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
September 06 2012 23:57 GMT
#277
On September 07 2012 08:42 Blackfoger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:38 djc wrote:
On September 07 2012 08:01 SpiZe wrote:
A running "gag" was that he was going around sponsoring teams with his parents Credit Card. Not sure if there is any truth to it or w/e.


One of the TF2 players for one of the many Blight teams saw some kind of Paypal receipt that had "Susan Larsen" listed as the cardholder.


See right there misquoting what he said it was in a Audio interview and he said he saw it on an online email transcript. Then again he had not posted any of the proof thus it's a running "gag"


If we shut down operations we can't pay off debt because we have source of revenue. Think of it this way, we have sponsors that pay say 1500 a month and we only use 1000 of that for players. We are not accumulating more debt we use the extra 500 a month to pay old expenses. Our current plan is slowly working well, we will be announcing another sponsor shortly that will help our teams. With this new company can work to progress quicker but if people email them it causes us to go backwords.

Sponsorship money isn't a personal piggy bank, and I think most sponsors would consider that a gross misappropriation of funds. You need to pay your debts with profit, not start siphoning off of money allocated for your team and players.
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
September 07 2012 00:03 GMT
#278
"tonight on entrepreneurs gone wrong..."
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
September 07 2012 00:04 GMT
#279
Now you just gave everyone a very valid reason to email the sponsor(s).
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Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 00:10:34
September 07 2012 00:10 GMT
#280
Erm, this actually might be more relevant to the OP than all the other posts but... @Blackfoger: Could you fix your nickname in your quote? Unless you're really actually called Blackoger in which I apologize.

http://blightgaming.com/2012/09/06/a-new-player-to-our-stellar-team/#.UEk67ZYkr-k
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