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bearcatter
Profile Joined June 2010
United States171 Posts
September 02 2012 23:08 GMT
#181
On September 03 2012 08:03 BlueRoyaL wrote:
NaVi is the last hope for America

oh wait.... :D

edit: i thought images get resized in TL? i guess not lol


Ugh these are the types of posts that aren't needed in TL
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 23:19:27
September 02 2012 23:13 GMT
#182
On September 03 2012 08:00 TheLunaticMonk wrote:
I find it amazing how na'vis playstyle is based on such fragile grounds. A single mistake in a teamfight and BAM its Naga ult into vaccuum into wall into ravage and 5man wipe. But navi refuses to make that mistake. Dendi ALWAYS stealing the ravage and turning the teamfight around XBOTC always landing a good chronosphere. And to address countchoculas post i'd like to just say this, China makes the metagame, Na'Vi breaks the metagame.

I agree with most of your post. However the last part while nice-sounding isn't exactly relevant. Who gave China the right to make the metagame? Why can't European teams make the metagame?

On September 03 2012 08:04 ThaZenith wrote:
People don't need to justify liking a player/team.

Anti-fanboyism is always annoying, in any form.

Go Na'Vi!

Sure you don't have to justify liking a player/team, but if you do and the reason you give is illogical, I reserve the right to point out the misconceptions in your viewpoints.
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
September 02 2012 23:20 GMT
#183
On September 03 2012 08:08 bearcatter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 08:03 BlueRoyaL wrote:
NaVi is the last hope for America

oh wait.... :D

edit: i thought images get resized in TL? i guess not lol


Ugh these are the types of posts that aren't needed in TL


so you can determine what kind of posts are and aren't acceptable in TL?

no harm done. i dont spam threads with random images but since navi, and especially dendi, seem to thrive on humor, seemed appropriate to me.

ive been a fan of dendi since ks.int in dota 1 so whatever
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Jawmare
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada85 Posts
September 02 2012 23:24 GMT
#184
Even Dendi said he is the most overrated dota 2 player.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
September 02 2012 23:49 GMT
#185
Just because you are a fan of someone doesn't mean you think they are the best player ever. There's some players I root for no matter how bad they are for various reasons.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
September 02 2012 23:51 GMT
#186
I am a navi fanboy because they have giant balls. they kill chinese ricers with jugger or pudge. dendi is the best player in the world so its obvious that he has a big fanclub. puppey is a troll and a very good drafter, i love when he cocasting its very insightful. loh has some very bad games but when he is on his game he's just so fucking precise with his spells its amazing. xboct is one of the best ricers in the world and has some big balls too (sometime too big). AA is support so thats that. Usually they play very aggressive and crowd pleasing so if you add Dendi and the others' nice personalities and hilarious interviews you can see why they have such a big following.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
September 02 2012 23:52 GMT
#187
On September 03 2012 08:49 nam nam wrote:
Just because you are a fan of someone doesn't mean you think they are the best player ever. There's some players I root for no matter how bad they are for various reasons.


+1. What nam nam said needs special attention.

There is no real correlation between someone's popularity and their skill at some particular thing.

look at all the hate lebron gets. and hes the best player in the game atm.
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breakingties
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom72 Posts
September 03 2012 00:05 GMT
#188
you want to know why we're all following na vi?

because they're not chinese. that's why.
fhlg
ciaiei
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland41 Posts
September 03 2012 00:10 GMT
#189
I agree that the Dendi hype is maybe a bit over the top, but there is no denying that he is one of the best players in the world, arguably even the best.

I hope OP watched the NaVi vs LGD and NaVi vs iG series. Those two series should explain why people thing Dendi is so awesome. Most heroes he plays he really is able to dominate with and makes huge plays. Just look at how often he manages to steal Ravage with Rubick against high tier teams. Also, like previously stated that teams actually ban heroes like pudge and puck just because of what Dendi can do with them.

In addition to this he also has an really entertaining and lovable personality.
Is "I hope you all die a painful death" too strong? -Linus Torvalds
Xeteh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States589 Posts
September 03 2012 00:14 GMT
#190
On September 03 2012 01:54 pap0t wrote:
This pictures tells us all what we need to know.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dota2ti/7914516196/in/set-72157631369084874


They gotta get one for ARS-ART!
ciaiei
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland41 Posts
September 03 2012 00:16 GMT
#191
On September 03 2012 08:13 CountChocula wrote:
I agree with most of your post. However the last part while nice-sounding isn't exactly relevant. Who gave China the right to make the metagame? Why can't European teams make the metagame?


The thing is that it usually works like this:
China comes up with the new metagame, Europe modifies it, NA modifies the European modification, China gets the modified version and modifies it again.

Repeat.
Is "I hope you all die a painful death" too strong? -Linus Torvalds
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 00:20:07
September 03 2012 00:19 GMT
#192
Harder to fanboy a chinese player since they dont speak our language and we're not involved in their scene. They're anonymous monsters to me. While their skill impresses me, it doesnt make me care about them.

Dendi just happens to be most shining star outside of china, flashy and creative play wins alot fans.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
exarchrum
Profile Joined August 2010
United States491 Posts
September 03 2012 00:25 GMT
#193
Watching Dendi act like a complete goof while Puppey was being interviewed gives Dendi a human aspect that the Chinese players don't give me.
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solidONE
Profile Joined August 2010
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 00:28:20
September 03 2012 00:26 GMT
#194
i think all of today pretty much makes this entire post retarded. they're the only team to beat LGD and put them on tilt after going undefeated along with doing the most meta-breaking picks the whole tournament. and dendi goes and shatters them with rubick and probably gets the pimpest play of the tournament x5 and is going to get multiple highlights.
Dr_Ze
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 00:33:52
September 03 2012 00:32 GMT
#195


Simply put.

I remember watching this game and going OMG

20:1:8
'nuff said
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 01:40:07
September 03 2012 01:34 GMT
#196
I get that the OP is showing his anti-fanboyism, and all the Na'Vi fans are here to rally the cause.

But do we really need shit like this?
On September 03 2012 09:05 breakingties wrote:
you want to know why we're all following na vi?

because they're not chinese. that's why.


Because of RACE? Nothing to do with Na'Vi as a team, nothing to do with Dendi's high-risk high-reward big plays, nothing to do with Puppey's mastermind leadership, nothing to do with successful unorthodox play, nothing to do with breaking the overpowered Naga/DS, nothing to do with the wacky dances and interviews, nothing to do with epic Blackholes and Chronospheres, but because all the OTHER teams are Chinese?

And you say "we" as if all Na'Vi fans support the team for such a shallow, bigoted, ignorant and nonsensical reason?

I just find it so sad that so many TLers would rise up, pitchforks in hand, behind the banner of inquisition when someone like Destiny (off the top of my head) gives a racist remark, going so far as to fucking e-mail Razer about it. And I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of the witch-hunters weren't even black. Was it all because they were trying to fit in? Appear to be a positive member of the "community"?

Then when it comes to the Chinese, everyone chimes in. How pathetically hypocritical. And how disappointing is it that the previous champions are getting cheers from certain morons just because they're not Chinese.

I don't quite get it. Is it because white dudes get raped in BW/SC2, and in fighting games, and they're treating DotA2/Na'Vi as their "last stand"? Or is it a western cultural thing to hate the rising power that isn't white? Anyone explain?
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
September 03 2012 01:41 GMT
#197
On September 03 2012 10:34 Xpace wrote:
I get that the OP is showing his anti-fanboyism, and all the Na'Vi fans are here to rally the cause.

But do we really need shit like this?
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 09:05 breakingties wrote:
you want to know why we're all following na vi?

because they're not chinese. that's why.


Because of RACE? Nothing to do with Na'Vi as a team, nothing to do with Dendi's high-risk high-reward big plays, nothing to do with Puppey's mastermind leadership, nothing to do with successful unorthodox play, nothing to do with breaking the yellow OP tape around Naga/DS, nothing to do with the wacky dances and interviews, but because all the OTHER teams are Chinese?

And you say "we" as if all Na'Vi fans support the team for such a shallow, bigoted, ignorant and nonsensical reason?

I just find it so sad that so many TLers would rise up, pitchforks in hand, behind the banner of inquisition when someone like Destiny (off the top of my head) gives a racist remark, going so far as to e-mail fucking Razer about it. And I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of the witch-hunters weren't even black.

Yet when it comes to the Chinese, everyone chimes in. How pathetically hypocritical. And how disappointing is it that the previous champions are getting cheers from certain morons just because they're not Chinese.

I don't quite get it. Is it because the Chinese are rising in power (I highly doubt it, but hey, who knows these days)? Anyone care to explain?


I really doubt that was racism. "NaVi is the only western team still standing and they doesnt play a boring style" is a much better interpretation I think.
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 01:46:28
September 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#198
I agree, I root for Chinese teams because I enjoy the players ( their individual skill and farming capabilities are simply a level above the Western teams ) more and I enjoy their meta-game more ( I am from the US with European heritage, so this has nothing to do with any culture or locality, which is how it should be imo ). Everytime I voice my support or want to discuss games I get flamed by fanboys trying to imitate 4chan vernacular, SingSing dendi oriented phrases or other fanboys, that makes it impossible to discuss the games in any realistic sense. I mean really?
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
September 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#199
This is the internet, someone just needs to prove they are correct over others.

On the other note: doesn't matter where the teams are, the matches are all beautiful to watch.
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 01:52:42
September 03 2012 01:46 GMT
#200
On September 03 2012 10:41 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 10:34 Xpace wrote:
I get that the OP is showing his anti-fanboyism, and all the Na'Vi fans are here to rally the cause.

But do we really need shit like this?
On September 03 2012 09:05 breakingties wrote:
you want to know why we're all following na vi?

because they're not chinese. that's why.


Because of RACE? Nothing to do with Na'Vi as a team, nothing to do with Dendi's high-risk high-reward big plays, nothing to do with Puppey's mastermind leadership, nothing to do with successful unorthodox play, nothing to do with breaking the yellow OP tape around Naga/DS, nothing to do with the wacky dances and interviews, but because all the OTHER teams are Chinese?

And you say "we" as if all Na'Vi fans support the team for such a shallow, bigoted, ignorant and nonsensical reason?

I just find it so sad that so many TLers would rise up, pitchforks in hand, behind the banner of inquisition when someone like Destiny (off the top of my head) gives a racist remark, going so far as to e-mail fucking Razer about it. And I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of the witch-hunters weren't even black.

Yet when it comes to the Chinese, everyone chimes in. How pathetically hypocritical. And how disappointing is it that the previous champions are getting cheers from certain morons just because they're not Chinese.

I don't quite get it. Is it because the Chinese are rising in power (I highly doubt it, but hey, who knows these days)? Anyone care to explain?


I really doubt that was racism. "NaVi is the only western team still standing and they doesnt play a boring style" is a much better interpretation I think.

Why do people keep repeating this like it's true? More often than not we see iG trying to outpush and outgank Na`Vi, while Na`Vi sits back to farm with the harder carry. In games 1 and 3 against LGD, Na`Vi picks the harder carry and farms on them while LGD's hard carry pushes with team for most of mid-game. Granted Na`Vi plays a push strat with Jugg/Lycan once in a while, but the "boring playstyle" reason simply doesn't hold water when most of the time Na`Vi is the one sitting back playing a 4-protect-1 strat, and the Chinese team is executing a mid-game push.
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
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