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So is it really 'Zelot' or 'Zealot'?

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MatTaNg
Profile Joined August 2012
United States21 Posts
August 25 2012 07:30 GMT
#1
So i know most players and commentators call the Zealot the 'Zelot' but 'Zealot' just sounds so much better and makes so much more sense. Heres why:

First of all I think we can all agree that almost all English words come from prefixes therefore wheres the prefix in 'Zelot'? Well if you pronounce it without the a, there is none. Therefore 'zelot' isn't even a word. The word 'Zealot' comes from the prefix 'Zeal'(and its pronounced 'ZEEL' not 'ZEL') which means "Enthusiastic devotion to a cause, ideal, or goal and tireless diligence..."(www.freedictionary.com) This fits the Zealot perfectly, as he always says "My life for Aiur" and such.

Second of all, theres a freakin A in the word why would you just ignore that. I don't recall blizzard ever admitting that the Zealot was supposed to be called 'Zelot' so why assume the a is silent?

So thats why I still and always shall call the Zealot 'Zealot' and not the 'zelot'. I think i made a pretty convincing argument what do you think?
Revolt
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States288 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 07:35:50
August 25 2012 07:33 GMT
#2
+1

Zeel awt makes more sense.
but the english language doesnt work that way, and thus: Zell awt

to clarify, the english language is a bastard in the world of languages. With it being a bastard, english often makes up its own rules.
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Gridlock
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom517 Posts
August 25 2012 07:33 GMT
#3
American accents, that's why!
Abraxas514
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada475 Posts
August 25 2012 07:33 GMT
#4
zeal·ot/ˈzelət/
Noun:
A person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals.
A member of an ancient Jewish sect aiming at a world Jewish theocracy and resisting the Romans until ad 70.

That's your answer. English is a language with many exceptions, and like many other languages, not pronouncing words correctly make you seem uneducated and stupid.
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Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 07:38:58
August 25 2012 07:33 GMT
#5
Dictionary.com says you're wrong. That's why.

Edit: Copy pasted from their pronunciation thing: [zel-uht]

Also english is well known for breaking it's own rules and shit. My name is Treavor for example. However there's no way in hell To pronounce that correctly while actually saying the A.

The base word itself changes when going from zeal to zealot. I know there's other words that do this as well I just can't think of them at the moment. Blizzard didn't make up "zealots" they've existed for a longass time. So to say "well blizzard didn't say they were supposed to be called zealots." doesn't really have any base. You're naming it after something that already exists so you're going to use the same pronunciation.
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
August 25 2012 07:35 GMT
#6
zealous has a short 'e' sound... food for thought.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
August 25 2012 07:35 GMT
#7
Standards of common use and the entirety of academic English linguistics disagree with you.
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zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 25 2012 07:38 GMT
#8
You can't really have a discussion about it.

It is pronounced Zelot, end of story. The sky is blue and you say Zelot.

Regardless of how much you want either fact to change, they are still the facts. Do yourself a favor and pronounce it Zelot, so if you ever happen to use the world in real-life, you don't end up looking ridiculous.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 25 2012 07:38 GMT
#9
Ummm, zealot is a word too... pronounced exactly as the casters do it.

Zeelot sounds better though. Honestly English is a pretty fail language :/
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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 07:40:36
August 25 2012 07:40 GMT
#10
On August 25 2012 16:38 zalz wrote:
You can't really have a discussion about it.

It is pronounced Zelot, end of story. The sky is blue and you say Zelot.

Regardless of how much you want either fact to change, they are still the facts. Do yourself a favor and pronounce it Zelot, so if you ever happen to use the world in real-life, you don't end up looking ridiculous.


Alternatively, you can go Stephano style and blame it on zee French accent

Zeeeaalot for life.
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TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 25 2012 07:45 GMT
#11
I have been using zelot for so long that zeelot actually sounds horrible on my ears.

Also, I am not positive but I am pretty sure it changes from ee to eh because of the o.

Zealous
Jealous
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
August 25 2012 07:50 GMT
#12
When we would ask our English teacher in high school "Why is this like that?", she would say "Because fuck you, deal with it!".

Well, i'm paraphrasing, of course
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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
August 25 2012 07:50 GMT
#13
I remember when I used to think it was a Zeelot back in BW.
Also I called the Paladon from Diablo 2 a puh-lah-din or something like that.

I still know a streamer that call them Zeelots though, and don't change to zelots.
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Norris_is_GODLY
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom46 Posts
August 25 2012 07:51 GMT
#14
Unfortunately our language is reeeeeally fucking dumb.

I'm kinda used to Zel awt now anyway. Zeel awt sounds so weird..
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
August 25 2012 07:51 GMT
#15
Origin of zealot word - Ζηλωτές zelotes, so I guess zelot is just fine
FunkyLich
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States107 Posts
August 25 2012 07:53 GMT
#16
On August 25 2012 16:45 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I have been using zelot for so long that zeelot actually sounds horrible on my ears.

Also, I am not positive but I am pretty sure it changes from ee to eh because of the o.

Zealous
Jealous


So if I am jealous I have jeal? or jealousy?

If it's the latter, zeal should be zealousy! :O

Zealots are now called zealousylots.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
August 25 2012 07:56 GMT
#17
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TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 25 2012 07:57 GMT
#18
On August 25 2012 16:53 FunkyLich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 16:45 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I have been using zelot for so long that zeelot actually sounds horrible on my ears.

Also, I am not positive but I am pretty sure it changes from ee to eh because of the o.

Zealous
Jealous


So if I am jealous I have jeal? or jealousy?

If it's the latter, zeal should be zealousy! :O

Zealots are now called zealousylots.

Zealot is a word by itself lol

I was just giving examples on why I think the o changes the pronunciation
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11367 Posts
August 25 2012 07:57 GMT
#19
I don't think we need a thread on this. But I think a lot of casters have adopted zee lot due to watching a lot of Korean casting.
Same thing with plaguuuuu, etc.
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