• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:42
CEST 10:42
KST 17:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage1Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 19276 users

ZvT Mass MMM best way to stop this?

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
rustypipe
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada206 Posts
July 04 2012 21:15 GMT
#1
Hello all,

Its been awhile since i've laddered or played SC2 heavily and recently most terrans have been doing the standard 3 CC orbit into mass rax mmm. Which is okay until mass numbers of medivacs come out.

I've tried going muta but this just isn't cost effective at all and muta can't be everywhere to stop all drops. I find infestors are a little bit better of a response but still struggle with this compisision as once you get past 7+ medivacs the healing capabilities are just so fast that it almost nulifies the FG's.

What is the best way to defend vs this? I will post some replays asap. This is also just high Diamond play so its not like its upper masters or anything.

Should you just go mass ling infestor while teching to broodlords and just play super defensivly by placing 2-3 infestors at each base and hold till you max out with ling infestor broodlord?
The beatings will continue until moral improves!
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 04 2012 21:17 GMT
#2
ling-baneling-infestor and if you aren't playing against marineking you should be able to win if he is going pure bio
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
HardCorey
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States709 Posts
July 04 2012 21:19 GMT
#3
Good defense of expansions and drops is the first step. In straight up fight against ling/bling or infestor/broodlord youre going to roll through his army. If the terran never switches up their unit composistion and you dont get too far behind in upgrades you are most definitely going to have the stronger army.

Can't really say more specifically for you without replays.
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
July 04 2012 21:20 GMT
#4
Please read strategy forum guidelines. You need a replay + analysis for a [H] thread. Else, ask in Zerg Help Me Thread.
Moderator
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Codebar 52
StarCraft: Brood War
Aegong 491
Tasteless 350
Leta 138
Larva 122
Killer 82
actioN 81
Dewaltoss 68
Sharp 53
sSak 47
soO 35
[ Show more ]
HiyA 29
zelot 24
Sacsri 22
Backho 22
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
IntoTheRainbow 10
Hm[arnc] 8
Dota 2
XcaliburYe234
canceldota124
XaKoH 101
NeuroSwarm81
League of Legends
JimRising 500
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2754
Stewie2K2184
shoxiejesuss422
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi674
ceh9569
m0e_tv334
Mew2King76
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL8610
Other Games
gamesdonequick864
BasetradeTV261
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1316
• Stunt625
• HappyZerGling85
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h 18m
PiGosaur Cup
15h 18m
Replay Cast
1d
Kung Fu Cup
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
The PondCast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
uThermal 2v2 Last Chance Qualifiers 2026
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.