EPTWhether or not these accusations are true, this ought to be private matters and not a public spotlight that makes a mockery of the esports scene. It makes everyone look bad, regardless of involvement in cheating.
Choya's twitter to accusations - Page 5
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BraneSC2
United States123 Posts
Whether or not these accusations are true, this ought to be private matters and not a public spotlight that makes a mockery of the esports scene. It makes everyone look bad, regardless of involvement in cheating. | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Boxer started crying for the heart and soul of pro-gaming- while being interviewed- when he was asked to comment about Savior's scandal. I'm quite sure he wouldn't allow anything underhanded to take place in the SlayerS house. Surely you remember how swiftly he dealt with Coca (and that was relatively minor), and how betrayed and dishonored he felt. That's not to say that no Korean pro-gamers would ever give in to the pressures of cheating, or that hacking could only be a foreigner problem, but we obviously need plenty of evidence before we start pointing fingers and throwing people under the bus. Exactly my point. People like Boxer would never fall for this shit and would outright kick anyone who would get involved in stuff like that. That's why this is unthinkable for me, that this kind of shit would happen, even in other progamers houses. | ||
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:38 ch33psh33p wrote: All they said was that they were standing in the back making some BROAD remarks on the game in general. There was no running back and forth looking at other people's screens, holy shit. How do you make this stuff up? Well like I said they didn't make sense to me. If this is what's going on then this is MLG's fault because from what I've seen in pcitures there are dozens of people surrounding the players whenever they play off-stage so this is impossible to avoid. I also don't see what the issue is since I'm sure any top pros knows everything Leenock would be saying while watching a game in a scenario like that. Then I'm also sure it's extremely noisy plus headphones so how much can they really hear...? | ||
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EienShinwa
United States655 Posts
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Positronic
121 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:39 boxturtle wrote: Well, now we know for sure oGs didn't cheat. On top of that, I think the EG guys would have something to say if slayers was running around and cheating (I have a hard time imagining Boxer encouraging cheating in the first place). I don't know about you, but that's conclusive enough to for me to assume that it's not widespread at all, if existent. When Taeja was on slayers before liquid, he'd win a whole buttload of online stuff. He wouldn't be capable of doing that if people were hacking and cheating left and right. I do believe Jinro, but I'm reserving judgement until Diamond comes out with whatever he knows, etc. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:33 Roman666 wrote: I think you mistaken the word condone for condemn. Condone = accept. And I feel you man, Its like it does not require explanation in Boxer's case, he just can't do or accept that shit. Yeah wrong word. | ||
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
How are you suppose to cheat in lan tournament such as MLG? | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:40 babylon wrote: I will just note that having anyone standing behind you making even "broad" comments about the game can be more often helpful than not depending on what was said. I was replying to the overexaggeration and general spread of misinformation, nothing else. | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
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Whoranzone
Germany330 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:38 ch33psh33p wrote: All they said was that they were standing in the back making some BROAD remarks on the game in general. There was no running back and forth looking at other people's screens, holy shit. How do you make this stuff up? So if all what was said that there was some sharing of helpful information although he didn't actually see the screen of the other player it makes even less sense to even bring something like this up. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:26 Psychonian wrote: I'm damn serious. You follow this for the next few days, and wait for my PM saying I told you so. You're also damn retarded then. however, if players do indeed have court appearances, get fined, and serve community service I'll send you that PM in a heartbeat. User was warned for this post | ||
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boxturtle
United States224 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Yeah I honestly have no idea, it's not like I'm ever at other houses, especially not during tournaments --- I had just assumed that we were past that stage. Please tell me it never happened in the oGs house. | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
 Hope it's all resolved and it turns out that nobody was cheating T_T Spades was already bad enough, but now we have these accusations as well.... ugh makes me sad  | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45289 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:40 EienShinwa wrote: Spades. Saviour 2.0. Goodbye e-sports. Boxer would be ashamed... Seriously? Not even fucking close. Do you have any idea what you're talking about? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:40 EienShinwa wrote: Spades. Saviour 2.0. Goodbye e-sports. Boxer would be ashamed... Spades was a person who tried to be a pro, this is not a big deal. He should be crucified if he is found hacking yes, but this will not be a goodby e-sports. Savior was good at bw, like very very good for awhile, spades (no offense to him) has never been a top tier terran. Now if a top player like drg/nestea/idra/stephano/mvp/mma/mc/etc/etc were caught cheating that would be a WAY bigger deal then spades. Not only have all those players won championships, but they are very popular and would be insane if one of them did. Spades who in bw hacked, who again was never a top tier foreigner or even that popular of a foreigner isn't a big deal. | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:42 McFeser wrote: This could have been a rumor started by one Korean player. Foreign coaches and players, having no direct contact and insight to the Korean teams, would let these rumors fester and spread among each other Yeah this is entirely based on what Artist told Mirhi AFAIK. Not exactly solid. | ||
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UnKooL
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:33 JerKy wrote: Sigh all of this makes me sad... This fiasco reminds me of the Savior-incident. I fear for esports... T_T Fear for humanity, not eSports. eSports is fine. | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:40 BraneSC2 wrote: TL needs to take immediate action as I believe it's responsible for letting this get out of control. TL is one of the largest esports media outlets and needs to act as such. Needless to say, this needs to be handled. Whether or not these accusations are true, this ought to be private matters and not a public spotlight that makes a mockery of the esports scene. It makes everyone look bad, regardless of involvement in cheating. Wait what? Are you actually saying this is TL.nets fault? Da faq? | ||
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