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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
On June 05 2012 18:10 bokchoi wrote: Nope. The only falsely accused player was SangHo/Killer and he retired from BW because of it. Ah, alright my bad. Do you really think he wouldn't have been able to keep playing if he really wanted to though? And I guess their situation was 100x more serious as well. But now I'm just off on a tangent I will go to bed D: | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
What about some proofs before we start accusing an entire group of players based on their country? | ||
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GertHeart
United States631 Posts
To be honest, I believe the best way to deal with this is get rid of the cheaters now. Very few people are like TT1 and actually make a natural real change and stop cheating, it's hard to change yourself, and the temptation might be there for people to do it again. So the best course of action is to kick them off, and let them work hard to improve themselves back. I actually like TT1 more now than I did before, believe it or not he's seen as a hero by some people for being able to change himself into a non-cheater. Think about these things clearly, how many people do you know fail to quit smoking? How many succeed? Alcoholics, people who cheat in single player games might do it on online, while others will only cheat in single player and never online. We were all raised differently so we all have different standards. In conclusion, there are cheating Koreans, but chances are whoever is reading this post has cheated in some game in their life themselves,(We tend to point fingers at others but forget about ourselves.) just have you grown out of it? Some people still need to learn. | ||
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
something stupid like that. ._. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On June 05 2012 18:01 iokke wrote: well maybe you are right. I admit, my main reason for trusting mirhi is not solid, especially if he is just trolling.. The way i saw it, there is no benefit for him to say those things, if they are lies or truth. If he lied, shame on him for that. If he said the truth,shame on him for not saying it earlier. It's a loss-loss, so why say it unless it is actually true... Personally, that lends some credibility to him. At the same time, maybe I am mistaken... i mean I guess I could ask myself, if he didn't expose it earlier, why trust him now... He wanted to bury Spades. However doing so he admitted he knew Spades was cheating during the time he was the manager. He didn't prevent Spades from doing so, which obviously makes him look bad as a person. So he found a backdoor in trying to justify his actions, of oh well uh Artist says it happens all the time. Turns out it was a possible lost in translation issue. | ||
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boxturtle
United States224 Posts
On June 05 2012 17:43 mrtomjones wrote: uhh you want to damage someones life? -_- everything in both these threads has already gone too far. Yeah, why not? We can take a break, then think of something to screw this Mihri guy over. After all, we can't just have people running around and slandering public figures like Leenock (and pretty much all Korean pros). It's just bad policy. | ||
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Imbu
United States903 Posts
On June 05 2012 18:17 IcedBacon wrote: Ah, alright my bad. Do you really think he wouldn't have been able to keep playing if he really wanted to though? And I guess their situation was 100x more serious as well. But now I'm just off on a tangent I will go to bed D: Unfortunately, just the suggestion that SangHo was on a list of players (that at the time hadn't been released to the public but widely speculated) was enough to end his career. People were already starting to harass him, and being tainted with the worst SC:BW scandal forced him to retire. He was extremely lucky that SC2 came out when it did, since otherwise, he would probably have been gone from the scene completely. If the target was White-Ra, the whole thing would have blown over differently. Right now, after the long standing thread discussing maphacking at the GM level on ladder, the community as a whole was on a trigger waiting for some actual "big name" to be caught. With the evidence provided against Spades by the OP, a lot of people ended up believing the result without actually watching any of the replays, simply because it seemed that it was true because of all the evidence. If it were White-Ra, more people would have put in the effort of watching the replays, and then possibly we would have a real discussion. I mean, consider the number of people who only started to talk about certain aspects of the replay after Catz went over it, many of them which don't absolutely require a GM to see. | ||
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sigma_x
Australia285 Posts
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Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
On June 05 2012 18:14 Hyperiok wrote: If you don't like drama surrounding games, you're in the wrong community :p Nah i love this community (atleast a part of it). But i have distanced myself abit from it so i see it from a different perspective now. Maybe it's because i have more important stuff in life right now than to care about online gaming drama. | ||
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Zenislev
United States280 Posts
On June 05 2012 18:25 sigma_x wrote: Between these two threads, it's pretty evident that TL is thirsty for blood today. Seriously... This thread needs to be closed unless some solid evidence is forthcoming. These mass hysterias are destroying people's careers and even, in this case, slandering who knows how many Korean pros. It's been happening on a regular basis now--I think the moderators need to have some sort of policy about containing witch hunts or something, this is crazy. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
Was like a fucking crusade. No reason to not do it in sc2. Especially with the money involved. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On June 05 2012 18:41 Zenislev wrote: Seriously... This thread needs to be closed unless some solid evidence is forthcoming. These mass hysterias are destroying people's careers and even, in this case, slandering who knows how many Korean pros. It's been happening on a regular basis now--I think the moderators need to have some sort of policy about containing witch hunts or something, this is crazy. This particular thread isn't a hunt on the Koreans, but the exact opposite. People are having a few laughs with the Korean pro's as they laugh off these bold accusations. This is the aftermath thread of what happens when one person of some significance stumbles on his words. With coming to a quick decision on they shouldn't stream things live to just prevent potential incidents. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32278 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:37 stangstang wrote: then thats up to MLG to deal with. people are making leenock out to be savior. No one is making Leenock like SaviOr? | ||
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