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Bagration
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Takkara
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SnowFantasy
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On June 05 2012 14:18 Psychonian wrote: I feel like this could be bigger than the match fixing scandal back from BroodWar while Sc2 beta was out. Not sure if you're trolling or what but there is no way this will be bigger than that. | ||
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Positronic
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boxturtle
United States224 Posts
I think the accuser of Leenock is being histrionic. For all he knew Leenock could've been telling his team mate their other team mate's results after he won/lost a match. The one good thing that came out of this is that MLG probably should make their open-bracket-playing-area a bit more secure. I remember Tyler talking about how whack it was on a SOTG. There would be people crowding around the players and kind of talking about the game and commentating while the games were going on. EDIT: We in Human Resources like saying that we don't even want "the appearance of inpropriety." I think that's the real case here. | ||
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Specialist
United States803 Posts
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symptom
Cuba14 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:16 Daniel C wrote: Unfortunately, no Korean player or coach will ever admit to it (if it's true)...so it's just your word against mine. No offense to Mirhi but his and Artist's words are heresay too. Artist was in fOu briefly before joining RGN so he's lived in maybe one major team house. When Spades went to Korea he lived in the GOM house. Don't see how major/all Korean pro houses stream cheat comes from this. Not to mention, Dragon was kicked out of SlayerS and WeRRa for previously stream cheating. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
i couldn't care less about spades himself, but this is an issue i can relate to. | ||
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Specialist
United States803 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:19 Haze.884 wrote: Well, RgN Manger and Artist really needs to come out and talk more detail. They really didn't expect their statement won't blow up or something? fix your post in playxp translations (2. 프로게이머들의 맵핵은 의외로 많다 (온라인 토너먼트))... the manager didn't say koreans hack -_- what is wrong with you. stream cheating and map hacking are two different things | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
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Swords
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The Leenock event seems impossible to prove and very vague to me. The stream cheating seems to be more of an issue because Diamond and tgun have both said they've heard it's a big problem too from trusted sources. It's still just word vs. word, but there seems to be a lot of people saying it's pretty rampant. From what Mirhi said it was mostly done in Korean vs. foreigner events (so FXO could still never win online events due to other Korean teams), and it was unclear if we're talking big tournaments or something like playhems. Either way, it's pretty shitty. Still all hearsay at this point though. | ||
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SCII-ALI
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On June 05 2012 14:15 mrlie3 wrote: The manager and Artist really need to give out some statements now... This has become a gigantic deal in Korean community right now, and many Korean pros are disgusted by this accusation. Only the manager stated that Leenock did whatever, not Artist. Artist just said that koreans stream cheated... Get the whole thing right before you write such comments please. | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:20 ImNightmare wrote: Spades has never proven his ability but Leenock has, what the fuck is wrong with people? He got to a finals in the gsl and in case people don't know, YOU CAN'T CHEAT THERE?! Nobody accused Leenock of cheating for his own gain, Mihri (in the Spades thread) said Leenock was giving "hints" (?) to a teammate at MLG in Korean, presumably in the lower-tier games where people can just crowd around. I really don't want to believe that to be true =( I love leenock. | ||
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babylon
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On June 05 2012 14:21 boxturtle wrote: I believe Choya. I do remember Leenock had to defeat the rigorous open bracket and he simply had to beat so many people that tournament. Even if he was the type of guy to cheat, micromanaging other players would be insane on top of his already huge load. I think the accuser of Leenock is being histrionic. For all he knew Leenock could've been telling his team mate their other team mate's results after he won/lost a match. The one good thing that came out of this is that MLG probably should make their open-bracket-playing-area a bit more secure. I remember Tyler talking about how whack it was on a SOTG. There would be people crowding around the players and kind of talking about the game and commentating while the games were going on. Someone else in the Spades thread said that his Korean friend overheard Leenock and translated some of it for him. Apparently it was very, very general advice. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Diamond is right in saying that needs to be looked into. On June 05 2012 14:22 Roman666 wrote: Though I always wondered if this stream cheating in Korean houses is possible, I can't actually believe that people like for instance Boxer would condone to this. Its just unbelievable for me, and I think if, and I'm streessing IF, this happens those must be very isolated incidents, not a wide-spread habit. I GUARANTEE you that Slayers would NEVER do this. That's the one sc2 team that would 100% never allow this. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
EDIT: And to clarify what I mean by early, I mean REALLY, REALLY early, like... first month or two before things started getting professional. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:20 chipmonklord17 wrote: The core of the issue isn't about whether they need to or not, its if they do or do not I'm saying that coupled with korean's ethic around cheating (BW incident) makes me HIGHLY doubtful that this would be happening openly in Korean pro houses. | ||
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.Sic.
Korea (South)497 Posts
On June 05 2012 14:22 SpecialistSc wrote: fix your post in playxp translations (2. 프로게이머들의 맵핵은 의외로 많다 (온라인 토너먼트))... the manager didn't say koreans hack -_- what is wrong with you. yeah, 프로게이머들의 맵핵은 의외로 많다 (온라인 토너먼트), that shit translates to "quite a lot of progamers use maphacks in online tournaments." | ||
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M[o]
Canada135 Posts
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