he says "i didn't speak much english at that time and what i said might have been interpreted by the manager differently" "i've never said anything like this, and this probably resulted from the lack of understanding between me and the manager" "i apologize for what this event has caused to the sc2 community as a whole "i guess this stemmed from me, so all i can say at this point is i'm really sorry" "i will try to analyze the situation in a bit and will post once again" "i also need to talk to the former manager (referring to Mirhi here) and see what is happening" "again, i apologize for any inconvinience this may have caused"
Sad thing is that people won't believe this anyways because LOLCONSPIRACY THEORIES.
Dunno, I just hate how it takes a comment to stir that much crap.
To me personally probably the most hilarious part is that the author of the drama claims to not have foreseen the consequences at least according to his twitter.
On June 05 2012 16:06 babylon wrote: Well, now you have Diamond's Twitter posts about something big going down and you have Artist saying that it was just miscommunication between him and Mirhi. What a fun ride.
This is exactly why people are upset at Diamond. He exacerbated the situation without providing ANY concrete evidence, and led to so much unnecessary speculation. Why?
On June 05 2012 16:06 babylon wrote: Well, now you have Diamond's Twitter posts about something big going down and you have Artist saying that it was just miscommunication between him and Mirhi. What a fun ride.
Which is pretty reasonable. The two of them chatting without a translator when Artist barely speaks any English? A perfectly reliable source..
On June 05 2012 15:51 Diamond wrote: Yes make me the enemy, that's the logical answer here.
It's not that people are making you the enemy they are just worried that you are exaggerating. Take your time to collect what people have told you and then release it. Or keep it secret and feel guilty.
What makes you think I did not already do the first one?
On June 05 2012 15:51 Diamond wrote: Yes make me the enemy, that's the logical answer here.
Just tell us something more, not random straws out of nothing. Write a long genuine post like all the others pro´s/important people have done, and tell us, what exactly happend were. If it´s true there´s no problem for you, if it´s not you should not come out with it in the first place. Or do you want to protect hackers? but then again why calling them out... Well i don´t know but just write something genuine and well thought out please.
I don't owe the public shit, I am not a reporter or a journalist, and it's not involving my tournament which has rules in place to prevent the issues being discussed. This is not even about hacking.....
I guess I'll take back my post about "liking you overall"... You run a tournament and are a community figure and you post like this? Looks like Artist is recanting his statements, but some community figure said that this needs to be looked into based on "what he heard" so now people won't drop it. This is great.
It would probably be in TLs best interest if this thread gets closed soon before the shitstorm gets worse.
These threads seriously needs to be closed. The accusations being made are baseless are seriously detrimental. For the Spade situation, the best thing to do is to wait for Western Wolves to respond after they do their own inquiries.
On June 05 2012 16:05 pdd wrote: Artist just tweeted something about the Mirhi claims. Anyone care to translate?
EDIT: Ninja-ed
"I posted my first clarification post. I'm sorry. I sincerely apologize for causing concern for the coaches, players and fans. I will post more after I make sense of the situation. I would be thankful if people retweeted this."
And the link goes to that post that others have translated.
On June 05 2012 15:51 Diamond wrote: Yes make me the enemy, that's the logical answer here.
It's not that people are making you the enemy they are just worried that you are exaggerating. Take your time to collect what people have told you and then release it. Or keep it secret and feel guilty.
What makes you think I did not already do the first one?
Then why are you wasting time talking to me ? :D See you tomorrow
On June 05 2012 16:13 babylon wrote: Oh great, HuK is joining in on the action now ... wish I could decipher his Twitter English.
HuK has been on a personal crusade against any tournaments being cast live since the beta. He thinks every event should have delay or be from replays. It was a sentiment shared by a lot of players at the time, but at the time viewers actually turned the streams off if it wasn't live. So it never happened, but now many of the major online tours cast from replays anyways. So it's not really too big of a deal, it's mostly showmatches and the smaller weekly tournaments that are cast live nowadays.
Why the fuck do people bother to perpetuate rumors and shit that has no concrete basis? If you can prove something 100% without a doubt, great, you win, but if you can't, just shut up and save the drama for private affairs.
On June 05 2012 16:13 babylon wrote: Oh great, HuK is joining in on the action now ... wish I could decipher his Twitter English.
HuK was pretty infamous for not playing in showmatches that weren't being casted off of replays or at least with a delay because he was afraid that his opponents would be watching (and why not back then, honor for something that was so small would be considered silly by many). He's also saying that although right now he doesn't need the money, back then when he was an aspiring progamer, that money was quite important to justify is choice in gaming over everything else.
On June 05 2012 16:13 babylon wrote: Oh great, HuK is joining in on the action now ... wish I could decipher his Twitter English.
HuK was pretty infamous for not playing in showmatches that weren't being casted off of replays or at least with a delay because he was afraid that his opponents would be watching (and why not back then, honor for something that was so small would be considered silly by many). He's also saying that although right now he doesn't need the money, back then when he was an aspiring progamer, that money was quite important to justify is choice in gaming over everything else.
Damn son, you are pro at translating. I'm impressed you got that from his word salad. o___o
I can't believe that some people are naive to think that nobody would ever stream cheat during online tournaments. I'm not talking about Koreans here I'm talking about anyone. The smaller tournament organizers make it ridiculously easy by having live broadcasting with no delays. All you need is another computer next to you and you can cheat all you want with no chance of ever being caught. Do you really think that no person who plays SC2 would ever be tempted to do this? The smaller online tournaments need to face reality and change the way they broadcast if they ever want to stop it because nobody will ever admit to it.
On June 05 2012 16:24 tomatriedes wrote: I can't believe that some people are naive to think that nobody would ever stream cheat during online tournaments. I'm not talking about Koreans here I'm talking about anyone. The tournament organizers make it ridiculously easy by having live broadcasting with no delays. All you need is another computer next to you and you can cheat all you want with no chance of ever being caught. Do you really think that no person who plays SC2 would ever be tempted to do this? Online tournaments need to face reality and change the way they broadcast if they ever want to stop it because nobody will ever admit to it.
Yup I agree 100%. Tournaments need to really step it up
On June 05 2012 16:24 tomatriedes wrote: I can't believe that some people are naive to think that nobody would ever stream cheat during online tournaments. I'm not talking about Koreans here I'm talking about anyone. The tournament organizers make it ridiculously easy by having live broadcasting with no delays. All you need is another computer next to you and you can cheat all you want with no chance of ever being caught. Do you really think that no person who plays SC2 would ever be tempted to do this? Online tournaments need to face reality and change the way they broadcast if they ever want to stop it because nobody will ever admit to it.
This. It would prevent things like this ever happening, regardless of whether they are at the moment or not.
On June 05 2012 16:24 tomatriedes wrote: I can't believe that some people are naive to think that nobody would ever stream cheat during online tournaments. I'm not talking about Koreans here I'm talking about anyone. The smaller tournament organizers make it ridiculously easy by having live broadcasting with no delays. All you need is another computer next to you and you can cheat all you want with no chance of ever being caught. Do you really think that no person who plays SC2 would ever be tempted to do this? The smaller online tournaments need to face reality and change the way they broadcast if they ever want to stop it because nobody will ever admit to it.
I can picture it now. Leenock steps off the plane for mlg and bam...100 reporters in his face and cameras flashing asking him to respond to these accusations....well maybe if esports was big enough this would happen.
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