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On June 05 2012 15:51 Diamond wrote:
Yes make me the enemy, that's the logical answer here.
Just tell us something more, not random straws out of nothing. Write a long genuine post like all the others pro´s/important people have done, and tell us, what exactly happend were. If it´s true there´s no problem for you, if it´s not you should not come out with it in the first place. Or do you want to protect hackers? but then again why calling them out... Well i don´t know but just write something genuine and well thought out please.
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On June 05 2012 15:56 treekiller wrote:
Its clearly a conspiracy orcastrated by ROOTCatz to boost his stream numbers. Coincidence that this happens around the time ROOT is announced to reform? I THINK NOT!
Are you on a crusade to troll every single thread about this?
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On June 05 2012 15:56 treekiller wrote:
Its clearly a conspiracy orcastrated by ROOTCatz to boost his stream numbers. Coincidence that this happens around the time ROOT is announced to reform? I THINK NOT!
Goddammit TK -_-
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oh no. its like the savior thing all over again!?
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On June 05 2012 15:59 TearsOfTheSun wrote:
oh no. its like the savior thing all over again!?
no. just no.
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On June 05 2012 15:51 Raelcun wrote:
I really don't even know what to say about such a ridiculous accusation against Leenock. I was the only FXO staff in attendance for Providence. I had access to the player area because of it and used it to watch matches. Koreans frequently talked to each other between games, and during warmups. I NEVER saw any of them talk to each other during an active match, I have never seen ANY player interact with someone during an active match. This is during both Columbus events, Anaheim, Providence etc.
If one of the Koreans was watching another during game, they were rarely the only one. The only times in which they were able to do this was late in the tournament, so there would be a crowd of Koreans around one match, or trying to watch two at once. There wasn't really the possibility of this happening because if player hangs out in the player area for too long during active matches and they aren't playing they get shown out by the referees within a few minutes. They start to relax this near the end when not every station is full, but if too many people start hanging out they tell all the non coaches/VIPs to leave. But again this only starts to happen near the end when there are always multiple people around, there is literally no time for a player to do such a thing. It's frankly not possible because of all the people watching.
The only time in which Leenock could have been over the shoulder and not been told to leave was during warmups. The Koreans often joke and talk during warmups though. Most likely someone saw them talking while they were getting ready, saw that there was a game on screen and though they were talking during a match.
The fact that this was even stated as a serious accusation is just stupid, because anyone who's been to MLG in the player areas knows all this.
Preach it. Leenock is no cheater. The ex-ReIGN manager isn't showing himself to exactly be a trustable source. I hope this shitstorm doesn't get out of control.
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On June 05 2012 15:55 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 15:51 Diamond wrote:
Yes make me the enemy, that's the logical answer here. It's not that people are making you the enemy they are just worried that you are exaggerating. Take your time to collect what people have told you and then release it. Or keep it secret and feel guilty.
What makes you think I did not already do the first one?
On June 05 2012 15:58 Blackfish wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 15:51 Diamond wrote:
Yes make me the enemy, that's the logical answer here. Just tell us something more, not random straws out of nothing. Write a long genuine post like all the others pro´s/important people have done, and tell us, what exactly happend were. If it´s true there´s no problem for you, if it´s not you should not come out with it in the first place. Or do you want to protect hackers? but then again why calling them out... Well i don´t know but just write something genuine and well thought out please.
I don't owe the public shit, I am not a reporter or a journalist, and it's not involving my tournament which has rules in place to prevent the issues being discussed. This is not even about hacking.....
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On June 05 2012 15:51 Diamond wrote:
Yes make me the enemy, that's the logical answer here.
They aren't making you out to be the enemy... but they do have a valid point. You basically said to the twitter masses "I know something you don't knowwwwww"
When it relates to a subject as controversial as this... that's not exactly the best way to go about things. Either release the information you have, or keep quiet until you have compiled all of the proof and make a press release. No need to be a drama queen over twitter talking about crying and needing cigarettes because the evidence you have viewed is so depressing.
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On June 05 2012 16:01 stew_ wrote:Okay, Artist himself has just posted on playxp: link here http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4002840rough translation: he says "i didn't speak much english at that time and what i said might have been interpreted by the manager differently" "i've never said anything like this, and this probably resulted from the lack of understanding between me and the manager" "i apologize for what this event has caused to the sc2 community as a whole "i guess this stemmed from me, so all i can say at this point is i'm really sorry" "i will try to analyze the situation in a bit and will post once again" "i also need to talk to the former manager (referring to Mirhi here) and see what is happening" "again, i apologize for any inconvinience this may have caused"
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Okay, Artist himself has just posted on playxp:
link here http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4002840
rough translation:
he says "i didn't speak much english at that time and what i said might have been interpreted by the manager differently"
"i've never said anything like this, and this probably resulted from the lack of communication between me and the manager"
"i apologize for what this event has caused to the sc2 community as a whole
"i guess this stemmed from me, so all i can say at this point is i'm really sorry"
"i will try to analyze the situation in a bit and will post once again"
"i also need to talk to the former manager (referring to Mirhi here) and see what is happening"
"again, i apologize for any inconvinience this may have caused"
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From the Spades thread.
Also Diamond, you're the one who's doing this to yourself, and its not the first or second time. Either say it, or don't. Don't straddle the line and stir the pot. All that does is create unnecessary drama.
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Right... so lets accuse someone without proof and expect everyone to believe you...
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i dont understand how leenock could help artist when artist is wearing a headset, concentrated on an important match, and in the MLG environment.
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Artist just tweeted something about the Mirhi claims. Anyone care to translate?
EDIT: Ninja-ed
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On June 05 2012 15:59 TearsOfTheSun wrote:
oh no. its like the savior thing all over again!?
See Diamond, this is the result of your posts. People just keep assuming and magnifying things based on reading your post. Everyone knows that more publicity for ESV is always good, but it's too much.
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too late artist since some people blew whistles with you
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On June 05 2012 16:03 ch33psh33p wrote:Okay, Artist himself has just posted on playxp: link here http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4002840rough translation: he says "i didn't speak much english at that time and what i said might have been interpreted by the manager differently" "i've never said anything like this, and this probably resulted from the lack of communication between me and the manager" "i apologize for what this event has caused to the sc2 community as a whole "i guess this stemmed from me, so all i can say at this point is i'm really sorry" "i will try to analyze the situation in a bit and will post once again" "i also need to talk to the former manager (referring to Mirhi here) and see what is happening" "again, i apologize for any inconvinience this may have caused" --------------------- From the Spades thread. Also Diamond, you're the one who's doing this to yourself, and its not the first or second time. Either say it, or don't. Don't straddle the line and stir the pot. All that does is create unnecessary drama.
i see you stole my post as i was about to c+p it here D:
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On June 05 2012 16:03 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 16:01 stew_ wrote:Okay, Artist himself has just posted on playxp: link here http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4002840rough translation: he says "i didn't speak much english at that time and what i said might have been interpreted by the manager differently" "i've never said anything like this, and this probably resulted from the lack of understanding between me and the manager" "i apologize for what this event has caused to the sc2 community as a whole "i guess this stemmed from me, so all i can say at this point is i'm really sorry" "i will try to analyze the situation in a bit and will post once again" "i also need to talk to the former manager (referring to Mirhi here) and see what is happening" "again, i apologize for any inconvinience this may have caused"
Sad thing is that people won't believe this anyways because LOLCONSPIRACY THEORIES.
Dunno, I just hate how it takes a comment to stir that much crap.
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Well, now you have Diamond's Twitter posts about something big going down and you have Artist saying that it was just miscommunication between him and Mirhi. What a fun ride.
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On June 05 2012 16:05 stew_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 16:03 ch33psh33p wrote:Okay, Artist himself has just posted on playxp: link here http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4002840rough translation: he says "i didn't speak much english at that time and what i said might have been interpreted by the manager differently" "i've never said anything like this, and this probably resulted from the lack of communication between me and the manager" "i apologize for what this event has caused to the sc2 community as a whole "i guess this stemmed from me, so all i can say at this point is i'm really sorry" "i will try to analyze the situation in a bit and will post once again" "i also need to talk to the former manager (referring to Mirhi here) and see what is happening" "again, i apologize for any inconvinience this may have caused" --------------------- From the Spades thread. Also Diamond, you're the one who's doing this to yourself, and its not the first or second time. Either say it, or don't. Don't straddle the line and stir the pot. All that does is create unnecessary drama. i see you stole my post as i was about to c+p it here D:
I stole it first  Least I gave you credit.
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The drama over the last couple of months has gone from popcorn amusing, to depressing, to downright obnoxious. Is our taste for drama so refined that even the Spades thing is already stale?
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