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Who cares if day9 is a dick off camera? Or if he is hoarding shitloads of money and not living it up so the world can see it?
Respect him as a professional and respect his private life.
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On May 24 2012 19:29 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:25 felisconcolori wrote:
Day[9] has a freaking song written about him. (Search youtube. If it already hasn't been dropped in this thread.) It's called "Day9 made me do it" :D I've included it inside the spoiler. + Show Spoiler +
Actually, I was thinking of this one. (Spoilered, for their pleasure and my protection.)
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 24 2012 19:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Except for the bounce through the Russian malware server, I'd find this utterly hilarious. Seriously though the man's gotta eat and if people want to GO to his donate page and click on his donate button and give him money, who are we to say they can't do that?
Pretty much. I wouldn't even get my pitchfork out of storage if Sundance put a donation page on the MLG site - I'd be annoyed and not donate, but if other people want to then they're free to do whatever they want.
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On May 24 2012 19:41 smallerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:37 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:34 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:21 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:15 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:11 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:03 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:01 figq wrote:
Only people who basically don't understand the core of the work that Day[9] does are throwing mud on him. Idra is an exception, but Idra often throws mud on all kinds of people.
Seriously, 2GD (as much as I like the guy) or that esports journalist who got the hand, are so far from appreciating the depth of strategy analysis, and methodology for strategy development, which Day[9] has provided for the community (for free!) over the years. They probably don't even realize how much Day[9]'s work has pushed the competitive level of foreign RTS as a whole, simply because he helped a ton of people (for free! again) to actually start playing RTS efficiently and think productively and actually make progress - thus pushing the level of everybody up and up. Yeah, you're probably right, 2GD doesn't realize shit about esports, who is he again?Last time i checked analyzing RTS games didn't make you into a diva. 2GD just started learning RTS, like a few days ago, yes. I don't care he's pro at quake or other games, that's absolutely irrelevant. His experience with any game is irrelevant to determine if day9 is a shit person or not. I don't give a god damn no fuck if Day[9] is a shit person or he likes to kill puppies with his thought hammer. He provided a great deal of analysis and methodology for the RTS community for free, for years, starting with a whole lot of Broodwar - from the position of panamerican champion, world WCG top 16 finisher etc - and then a whole lot of SC2. He single-handedly with A TON OF WORK raised the proficiency of foreign RTS and the interest in RTS at all, which of course was much lower when most people couldn't even learn how to play it right. You are missing the point of the thread. Plenty of good RTS analysers that aren't two faced, treat people like shit at live events, or beg for donations they don't need. Yes, and Day9 is one of those RTS analyzers. I can speak from my personal experience here. He's a nice guy. In fact, reading through this thread, there are two groups of people: 1) people who haven't met Day9 and think he's a dick and 2) people who HAVE met day9 and think he's great. I think we know which group is more credible. There is also a group that you are ignoring, who met day9 and thought he was a dick. I wouldn't expect you to mention it.
And why should we believe those people? Narcissists get rebuked every day and blame others for it, see the epic saga of Paul Christoforo and his wwebsite as on the internet.
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On May 24 2012 19:43 nanospartan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:41 Equity213 wrote:
This is just my opinion, but I really think TL should consider a policy of closing threads like this. 100% agree, these threads do nothing but hurt eSports, what did Day[9] even do?
Agree, it's all just silly, I'm sorry. So some people don't get on with other people. Whatever. It's no reason to become a rampaging mob. Sigh.
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Why's this thread still around? It's mildly tolerable as people has already pointed out that it's an issue wasn't an issue in TL in the first place, and now it's starting to degrade to people namecalling around in here.
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On May 24 2012 19:14 parduebob11 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:06 Kyuki wrote:On May 24 2012 18:52 parduebob11 wrote:On May 24 2012 18:47 Kyuki wrote:
People who are extremly public will always falter at times and Day9 is without fail the biggest personality in the industry, so it's only natural.
Dude what planet are you living on?day9 the biggest personality in the industry?What industry?he is a successfull caster,I give him that but there are tons of personalitites that keep sc2 alive for fans.MKP,Violet,Idra,naniwa,Incontrol,MC,MMA,Nestea and virtually every single progamer out there is more known than day9.When I watch a tournament I watch it because I want to see MKP vs DRG or Squirtle or MVp not some caster. Dude, what world are YOU living in. Learn to read, I never said there were no other personality that helps this industry, because they're all joint, but Day9 has done alot of things for this community and by doing that he's also gained alot of fame not only inside the community but outside of it promoting e-sports and SC2. I can almost promise you that more people know about Day9 than any of the names you put out there, especially the players (sadly). Why do I even respond to your post, seems to me you just wanted to say that there are other people in the industry that does alot of good (which was never up for discussion, because it's pretty damn obvious and not related to this topic). Reread your initial post man.You specified Day9 is the most wellknown perosnality in the sc2 industry.Which is completly fake and stupid.All major progamers are more wellknown than day9.The fact that Day9 does good for the community I give him that-he is a grinder and works dayly to put that analysis of his on youtube.
Are you really this thick? Really? You think anyone reading forbes or pretty much anyone who isnt INSIDE the community already know anything about the progamers? No. But people outside and EVERYONE inside the community knows who day9 is. Who are you seriously trying to fool, or do you just not understand what "well known" means?
Ffs more people know about destiny than your fav progamers in the GSL...
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On May 24 2012 19:42 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:41 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:37 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:34 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:21 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:15 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:11 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:03 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:01 figq wrote:
Only people who basically don't understand the core of the work that Day[9] does are throwing mud on him. Idra is an exception, but Idra often throws mud on all kinds of people.
Seriously, 2GD (as much as I like the guy) or that esports journalist who got the hand, are so far from appreciating the depth of strategy analysis, and methodology for strategy development, which Day[9] has provided for the community (for free!) over the years. They probably don't even realize how much Day[9]'s work has pushed the competitive level of foreign RTS as a whole, simply because he helped a ton of people (for free! again) to actually start playing RTS efficiently and think productively and actually make progress - thus pushing the level of everybody up and up. Yeah, you're probably right, 2GD doesn't realize shit about esports, who is he again?Last time i checked analyzing RTS games didn't make you into a diva. 2GD just started learning RTS, like a few days ago, yes. I don't care he's pro at quake or other games, that's absolutely irrelevant. His experience with any game is irrelevant to determine if day9 is a shit person or not. I don't give a god damn no fuck if Day[9] is a shit person or he likes to kill puppies with his thought hammer. He provided a great deal of analysis and methodology for the RTS community for free, for years, starting with a whole lot of Broodwar - from the position of panamerican champion, world WCG top 16 finisher etc - and then a whole lot of SC2. He single-handedly with A TON OF WORK raised the proficiency of foreign RTS and the interest in RTS at all, which of course was much lower when most people couldn't even learn how to play it right. You are missing the point of the thread. Plenty of good RTS analysers that aren't two faced, treat people like shit at live events, or beg for donations they don't need. Yes, and Day9 is one of those RTS analyzers. I can speak from my personal experience here. He's a nice guy. In fact, reading through this thread, there are two groups of people: 1) people who haven't met Day9 and think he's a dick and 2) people who HAVE met day9 and think he's great. I think we know which group is more credible. There is also a group that you are ignoring, who met day9 and thought he was a dick. I wouldn't expect you to mention it. That group is much smaller than either of the groups I listed, so yes, I didn't mention it. *I* met day9 and he was a very nice and amicable fellow both during and following the event he casted. He hung out with the rest of the crew and drank beers and told jokes and was generally a great guy. That's my personal anecdote, and there are more who agree with me than disagree.
While it's a lot smaller it's also a lot more credible, you think 2gd , idra and cadred would shit on him for no reason, knowing the backlash it would generate for them?
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Idra didn't shit on him, and who the fuck is 2gd and cadred? Backlash? People wouldn't know who they were if they didn't start some sort of e-sports drama. This kind of nonsense is how you get fame in this childish community.
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On May 24 2012 19:44 smallerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:42 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:41 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:37 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:34 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:21 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:15 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:11 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:03 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:01 figq wrote:
Only people who basically don't understand the core of the work that Day[9] does are throwing mud on him. Idra is an exception, but Idra often throws mud on all kinds of people.
Seriously, 2GD (as much as I like the guy) or that esports journalist who got the hand, are so far from appreciating the depth of strategy analysis, and methodology for strategy development, which Day[9] has provided for the community (for free!) over the years. They probably don't even realize how much Day[9]'s work has pushed the competitive level of foreign RTS as a whole, simply because he helped a ton of people (for free! again) to actually start playing RTS efficiently and think productively and actually make progress - thus pushing the level of everybody up and up. Yeah, you're probably right, 2GD doesn't realize shit about esports, who is he again?Last time i checked analyzing RTS games didn't make you into a diva. 2GD just started learning RTS, like a few days ago, yes. I don't care he's pro at quake or other games, that's absolutely irrelevant. His experience with any game is irrelevant to determine if day9 is a shit person or not. I don't give a god damn no fuck if Day[9] is a shit person or he likes to kill puppies with his thought hammer. He provided a great deal of analysis and methodology for the RTS community for free, for years, starting with a whole lot of Broodwar - from the position of panamerican champion, world WCG top 16 finisher etc - and then a whole lot of SC2. He single-handedly with A TON OF WORK raised the proficiency of foreign RTS and the interest in RTS at all, which of course was much lower when most people couldn't even learn how to play it right. You are missing the point of the thread. Plenty of good RTS analysers that aren't two faced, treat people like shit at live events, or beg for donations they don't need. Yes, and Day9 is one of those RTS analyzers. I can speak from my personal experience here. He's a nice guy. In fact, reading through this thread, there are two groups of people: 1) people who haven't met Day9 and think he's a dick and 2) people who HAVE met day9 and think he's great. I think we know which group is more credible. There is also a group that you are ignoring, who met day9 and thought he was a dick. I wouldn't expect you to mention it. That group is much smaller than either of the groups I listed, so yes, I didn't mention it. *I* met day9 and he was a very nice and amicable fellow both during and following the event he casted. He hung out with the rest of the crew and drank beers and told jokes and was generally a great guy. That's my personal anecdote, and there are more who agree with me than disagree. While it's a lot smaller it's also a lot more credible, you think 2gd , idra and cadred would shit on him for no reason, knowing the backlash it would generate for them?
Yeah Idra is known far and wide for both his reasoned appraisals of people and his tact in expressing himself.
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lol casters are making big money ?
hahaha that's insane they all horribly suck but maybe artosis making shitty jokes on tv
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I kinda dislike it alot when he is always the superstar at the end of MLGs, "Im day9, and this has been awesome blablabla..", when it ofcourse should have been the winner in the spotlight. Other than that I think have no personal reason to dislike him, I've never met him!
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On May 24 2012 19:44 smallerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:42 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:41 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:37 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:34 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:21 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:15 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:11 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:03 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:01 figq wrote:
Only people who basically don't understand the core of the work that Day[9] does are throwing mud on him. Idra is an exception, but Idra often throws mud on all kinds of people.
Seriously, 2GD (as much as I like the guy) or that esports journalist who got the hand, are so far from appreciating the depth of strategy analysis, and methodology for strategy development, which Day[9] has provided for the community (for free!) over the years. They probably don't even realize how much Day[9]'s work has pushed the competitive level of foreign RTS as a whole, simply because he helped a ton of people (for free! again) to actually start playing RTS efficiently and think productively and actually make progress - thus pushing the level of everybody up and up. Yeah, you're probably right, 2GD doesn't realize shit about esports, who is he again?Last time i checked analyzing RTS games didn't make you into a diva. 2GD just started learning RTS, like a few days ago, yes. I don't care he's pro at quake or other games, that's absolutely irrelevant. His experience with any game is irrelevant to determine if day9 is a shit person or not. I don't give a god damn no fuck if Day[9] is a shit person or he likes to kill puppies with his thought hammer. He provided a great deal of analysis and methodology for the RTS community for free, for years, starting with a whole lot of Broodwar - from the position of panamerican champion, world WCG top 16 finisher etc - and then a whole lot of SC2. He single-handedly with A TON OF WORK raised the proficiency of foreign RTS and the interest in RTS at all, which of course was much lower when most people couldn't even learn how to play it right. You are missing the point of the thread. Plenty of good RTS analysers that aren't two faced, treat people like shit at live events, or beg for donations they don't need. Yes, and Day9 is one of those RTS analyzers. I can speak from my personal experience here. He's a nice guy. In fact, reading through this thread, there are two groups of people: 1) people who haven't met Day9 and think he's a dick and 2) people who HAVE met day9 and think he's great. I think we know which group is more credible. There is also a group that you are ignoring, who met day9 and thought he was a dick. I wouldn't expect you to mention it. That group is much smaller than either of the groups I listed, so yes, I didn't mention it. *I* met day9 and he was a very nice and amicable fellow both during and following the event he casted. He hung out with the rest of the crew and drank beers and told jokes and was generally a great guy. That's my personal anecdote, and there are more who agree with me than disagree. While it's a lot smaller it's also a lot more credible, you think 2gd , idra and cadred would shit on him for no reason, knowing the backlash it would generate for them?
Well, first off, regarding IdrA: Yes, he totally would.
Secondly, regarding IdrA: um... he didn't. He thinks day9 is a great guy and made an off-hand comment about the dude's income. It's np.
lastly: who's cadred and 2gd?
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On May 24 2012 19:35 parduebob11 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:28 Dali. wrote:Scumbag who doesn't format correctly.
"Just as a sidenote computercompanies besides Intel don`t support esports that much.If you are talking about Razer I seriously doubt you spend about 2000 usdollars on a gaming laptop considering that you are building your pc and most of the companies have premade systems available.But nevertheless the information is unverifiable
Again, if you can find someone to finance the scene better then our those currently tossing us crumbs, tell us where. I also hate seeing politically correct corect internetusers such as yourself throwing the word `community` around when most of the viewers form tournaments who keep the sc2 scene alive(that is the tenths of thousands of viewers needed for a tournament to be succesfull)only watch a tournament for specific stars and drama.just watch as the ratings go down when a well known celebrity leaves a tournament.But you don`t care about that now do you.Personally if you consider my post garbage,i consider you garbage also and yes users such as yourself are a plague to the esports community. Unsubstantiated garbage. People watch a number of different reasons. If a tournament can fill all those requirements, great casters, great players, great production, then people will watch. All components are important. Casters have an extremely important role in being the frontline of entry into the scene for those uneducated in the game. In reference to the last few sentences: I have so many creative insults floating around in my head, but I shan't give you the satisfaction. You don`t make any sense.You don`t watch him yet state he is interesting and helpfull for the community.This is exactly my point.Who watches Day9?How do you know he is doing good if you don`t watch him?" If other people enjoy watching him, then more power to them. He entertains people, he expands the games influence to a broader audience and he looks for ways to include corporate interests so to bring in more money. He is most certainly not a detracting influence for sc2, and therefore he may do as he pleases in my eyes. You can call yourself and your mother scumbags and garbage.Probably that is what you and them are.I don`t talk to idiots like you.You are unable to have a conversation without throwing insults.You suck.Period. In the words of Day9:`Talk to the hand troll`
Since you present no argument, then I'll take that as you conceding.
And to address your whimpers about hurt feelings, you're the one who started posting with a full blown character assassination of someone almost universally revered as a source of good within the community. Problem is you failed to present any reason or evidence for why we should hate this person as you do. I don't care who the person in question is, you acted and continue to act like a spiteful ass with no reason other than the person rubs you the wrong way. Don't like someone, fine. But don't spew lies and accusations. Especially things you wouldn't say to the face of anyone who personally knows Day9. That's why you're a scumbag, and a coward to boot.
gg no re.
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On May 24 2012 19:47 Boonbag wrote:
lol casters are making big money ?
hahaha that's insane they all horribly suck but maybe artosis making shitty jokes on tv
... how do you have 1k posts and have not been banned yet?
this thread makes me sad to be part of TL
User was warned for this post
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On May 24 2012 19:49 nanospartan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:47 Boonbag wrote:
lol casters are making big money ?
hahaha that's insane they all horribly suck but maybe artosis making shitty jokes on tv ... how do you have 1k posts and have not been banned yet? this thread makes me sad to be part of TL
I feel ya. 6 days until I get a report button.
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Blazinghand
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On May 24 2012 19:47 kyllinghest wrote:
I kinda dislike it alot when he is always the superstar at the end of MLGs, "Im day9, and this has been awesome blablabla..", when it ofcourse should have been the winner in the spotlight. Other than that I think have no personal reason to dislike him, I've never met him!
I'd just like to say that the sentiment you've expressed here is totally reasonable. Of course you have no reason to dislike him! If everyone in this thread was like you this thread would be like 30 posts long, tops.
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On May 24 2012 19:48 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:44 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:42 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:41 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:37 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:34 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:21 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:15 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:11 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:03 smallerk wrote:
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Yeah, you're probably right, 2GD doesn't realize shit about esports, who is he again?Last time i checked analyzing RTS games didn't make you into a diva. 2GD just started learning RTS, like a few days ago, yes. I don't care he's pro at quake or other games, that's absolutely irrelevant. His experience with any game is irrelevant to determine if day9 is a shit person or not. I don't give a god damn no fuck if Day[9] is a shit person or he likes to kill puppies with his thought hammer. He provided a great deal of analysis and methodology for the RTS community for free, for years, starting with a whole lot of Broodwar - from the position of panamerican champion, world WCG top 16 finisher etc - and then a whole lot of SC2. He single-handedly with A TON OF WORK raised the proficiency of foreign RTS and the interest in RTS at all, which of course was much lower when most people couldn't even learn how to play it right. You are missing the point of the thread. Plenty of good RTS analysers that aren't two faced, treat people like shit at live events, or beg for donations they don't need. Yes, and Day9 is one of those RTS analyzers. I can speak from my personal experience here. He's a nice guy. In fact, reading through this thread, there are two groups of people: 1) people who haven't met Day9 and think he's a dick and 2) people who HAVE met day9 and think he's great. I think we know which group is more credible. There is also a group that you are ignoring, who met day9 and thought he was a dick. I wouldn't expect you to mention it. That group is much smaller than either of the groups I listed, so yes, I didn't mention it. *I* met day9 and he was a very nice and amicable fellow both during and following the event he casted. He hung out with the rest of the crew and drank beers and told jokes and was generally a great guy. That's my personal anecdote, and there are more who agree with me than disagree. While it's a lot smaller it's also a lot more credible, you think 2gd , idra and cadred would shit on him for no reason, knowing the backlash it would generate for them? Well, first off, regarding IdrA: Yes, he totally would. Secondly, regarding IdrA: um... he didn't. He thinks day9 is a great guy and made an off-hand comment about the dude's income. It's np. lastly: who's cadred and 2gd?
Google, use it.
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On May 24 2012 19:41 Equity213 wrote:
This is just my opinion, but I really think TL should consider a policy of closing threads like this.
Yea, the mod gave it a chance and look what happened.
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Blazinghand
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On May 24 2012 19:50 smallerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:48 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:44 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:42 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:41 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:37 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:34 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:21 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:15 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:11 figq wrote:
[quote]2GD just started learning RTS, like a few days ago, yes.
I don't care he's pro at quake or other games, that's absolutely irrelevant.
His experience with any game is irrelevant to determine if day9 is a shit person or not. I don't give a god damn no fuck if Day[9] is a shit person or he likes to kill puppies with his thought hammer. He provided a great deal of analysis and methodology for the RTS community for free, for years, starting with a whole lot of Broodwar - from the position of panamerican champion, world WCG top 16 finisher etc - and then a whole lot of SC2. He single-handedly with A TON OF WORK raised the proficiency of foreign RTS and the interest in RTS at all, which of course was much lower when most people couldn't even learn how to play it right. You are missing the point of the thread. Plenty of good RTS analysers that aren't two faced, treat people like shit at live events, or beg for donations they don't need. Yes, and Day9 is one of those RTS analyzers. I can speak from my personal experience here. He's a nice guy. In fact, reading through this thread, there are two groups of people: 1) people who haven't met Day9 and think he's a dick and 2) people who HAVE met day9 and think he's great. I think we know which group is more credible. There is also a group that you are ignoring, who met day9 and thought he was a dick. I wouldn't expect you to mention it. That group is much smaller than either of the groups I listed, so yes, I didn't mention it. *I* met day9 and he was a very nice and amicable fellow both during and following the event he casted. He hung out with the rest of the crew and drank beers and told jokes and was generally a great guy. That's my personal anecdote, and there are more who agree with me than disagree. While it's a lot smaller it's also a lot more credible, you think 2gd , idra and cadred would shit on him for no reason, knowing the backlash it would generate for them? Well, first off, regarding IdrA: Yes, he totally would. Secondly, regarding IdrA: um... he didn't. He thinks day9 is a great guy and made an off-hand comment about the dude's income. It's np. lastly: who's cadred and 2gd? Google, use it.
That's a rhetorical device, friend. I did use it, and my point is that you're banking on these guys' credibility in the scene when they're in fact relatively small-time. I daresay the torrent of pro-day9 anecdotes easily outweighs these guys' whispers.
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On May 24 2012 19:50 smallerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:48 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:44 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:42 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:41 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:37 Blazinghand wrote:On May 24 2012 19:34 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:21 figq wrote:On May 24 2012 19:15 smallerk wrote:On May 24 2012 19:11 figq wrote:
[quote]2GD just started learning RTS, like a few days ago, yes.
I don't care he's pro at quake or other games, that's absolutely irrelevant.
His experience with any game is irrelevant to determine if day9 is a shit person or not. I don't give a god damn no fuck if Day[9] is a shit person or he likes to kill puppies with his thought hammer. He provided a great deal of analysis and methodology for the RTS community for free, for years, starting with a whole lot of Broodwar - from the position of panamerican champion, world WCG top 16 finisher etc - and then a whole lot of SC2. He single-handedly with A TON OF WORK raised the proficiency of foreign RTS and the interest in RTS at all, which of course was much lower when most people couldn't even learn how to play it right. You are missing the point of the thread. Plenty of good RTS analysers that aren't two faced, treat people like shit at live events, or beg for donations they don't need. Yes, and Day9 is one of those RTS analyzers. I can speak from my personal experience here. He's a nice guy. In fact, reading through this thread, there are two groups of people: 1) people who haven't met Day9 and think he's a dick and 2) people who HAVE met day9 and think he's great. I think we know which group is more credible. There is also a group that you are ignoring, who met day9 and thought he was a dick. I wouldn't expect you to mention it. That group is much smaller than either of the groups I listed, so yes, I didn't mention it. *I* met day9 and he was a very nice and amicable fellow both during and following the event he casted. He hung out with the rest of the crew and drank beers and told jokes and was generally a great guy. That's my personal anecdote, and there are more who agree with me than disagree. While it's a lot smaller it's also a lot more credible, you think 2gd , idra and cadred would shit on him for no reason, knowing the backlash it would generate for them? Well, first off, regarding IdrA: Yes, he totally would. Secondly, regarding IdrA: um... he didn't. He thinks day9 is a great guy and made an off-hand comment about the dude's income. It's np. lastly: who's cadred and 2gd? Google, use it.
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