Destiny and Quantic part ways - Page 96

On May 05 2012 04:24 Silvertine wrote:

I appreciate your response.

On May 05 2012 04:46 Zocat wrote:
The question imho is:
Why did Razer step in?
I only see two possibilities:
a) they agree with the "white-knights" and think it's not proper behaviour for their players to shout racist insults
b) a ton of people complained - so to protect their interests (sell products) they cut him lose

If it's a), well looks like the "white-knights" are actually right (of course you're free to send your explanation why Destiny can say what he wants to Razer and convince them of your opinion).
If it's b), it basically shows that not enough defenders & fans of Destiny did tell Razer how awesome they are for sponsoring him prior to the incident. So to prevent something like "white-knights" ruining a player/team - go ahead and mail every sponsor of your favourite player/team right now. And repeat this every 1-3 months. Because if it's b) it's just simple math for Razer "More complainers than supporters - lets kick him".

On May 05 2012 04:46 Zocat wrote:
The question imho is:
Why did Razer step in?
I only see two possibilities:
a) they agree with the "white-knights" and think it's not proper behaviour for their players to shout racist insults
b) a ton of people complained - so to protect their interests (sell products) they cut him lose

If it's a), well looks like the "white-knights" are actually right (of course you're free to send your explanation why Destiny can say what he wants to Razer and convince them of your opinion).
If it's b), it basically shows that not enough defenders & fans of Destiny did tell Razer how awesome they are for sponsoring him prior to the incident. So to prevent something like "white-knights" ruining a player/team - go ahead and mail every sponsor of your favourite player/team right now. And repeat this every 1-3 months. Because if it's b) it's just simple math for Razer "More complainers than supporters - lets kick him".

On May 05 2012 04:43 Chocobo wrote:

I never use that language that don't approve of it when anyone else says it. But something I'm very much in favor of is for people to be allowed to use that language if they want to, without fear of losing their employment because of someone running to their employer and making threats.

Everyone seems to be focusing on Destiny's actions, what he should and shouldn't be able to do without repercussions, what is and isn't OK for someone of his standing. Well, I think people should be considering what is and isn't appropriate for the "I'm offended!" group to be doing.

If you're offended by something or you don't like something, don't watch it. How difficult is that?

Why is there any need to do something more? Why can't you leave Destiny and his stream alone, why is there a need to get revenge on him?

How is it the right thing to do, to run to someone's employer and stir up shit and try to get him fired?

On May 05 2012 04:44 Deathmanbob wrote:


the point is all these people said something very offensive just as destiny did. Not one of them has ever been witch hunted for it because they are the heros of the scene. Its 100% BS, the ONLY reason destiny was attacked the way he was is because people dont like him as much as they like huk or idra. Ive seen idra call people faggot all the damn time on stream and he has NEVER gotten in trouble from the community, nobody has gone and started a witch hunt to contact EGs sponsors over it. If TL is going to be some giant white night protecting the world from bad language then they need to take down their heros as well as their villains... have a stranded and stick to it


that being said i dont think any of those people should have anything done to them just like i feel destiny should of been left alone, but if TL is going to stand on some damn high ground they better not let anyone get away with it.

On May 05 2012 04:44 Anomi wrote:
People answer me this. Would anyone scream out nigger or any kind of offensive word in middle of shopping mall so everyone could hear it, or any other place where 5000 people is listening to u. would u scream out nigger in the subway to your friend with intension to offend him when u have 5 black people sitting next to u. even a 10 year old kid would know that’s disrespectful. Even if those 5 people didn’t get offended I don’t any still would say it would be right screaming out that word in public like that. I would like to hear someone try to rationalize or explain them self out of that situation. No I don’t have anything against black people I was just screaming at my friend?. Or sry I didn’t know u guys where sitting here?
Doesn’t matter how hard u try I think most people know that u did wrong in that situation even if your intention wasn’t to offend them.

On May 05 2012 04:49 Sithelin123 wrote:


Any reasonable person would agree that it is completely improper behavior for professional players to shout racist insults.. The question is if Destiny should have been fired for it. Personally I don't really mind that he was since he was warned about it previously and this isn't the first case of racism controversy that surrounds him.

On May 05 2012 04:40 BlueLanterna wrote:


Racial slurs are used to get specific people offended. Why are you surprised people were working to get Destiny removed? Your point is nonexistent. Don't bring up ridiculous assumptions like "WELL YOU MUST THINK QUANTIC IS GOING TO POST GOOK ALL OVER THEIR SITE BECAUSE OF HIM" You're a moron if you are going to use that statement as reinforcement.

On May 05 2012 04:52 dmasterding wrote:


That's a terrible analogy :/
Yelling "nigger" out to 5000 random people you see in public is WAAAAAAAY different from saying "nigger" on a stream to 5k people who have chosen to listen to you and are actively on your stream (and most likely know already how you speak).

On May 05 2012 04:44 Anomi wrote:
People answer me this. Would anyone scream out nigger or any kind of offensive word in middle of shopping mall so everyone could hear it, or any other place where 5000 people is listening to u. would u scream out nigger in the subway to your friend with intension to offend him when u have 5 black people sitting next to u. even a 10 year old kid would know that’s disrespectful. Even if those 5 people didn’t get offended I don’t any still would say it would be right screaming out that word in public like that. I would like to hear someone try to rationalize or explain them self out of that situation. No I don’t have anything against black people I was just screaming at my friend?. Or sry I didn’t know u guys where sitting here?
Doesn’t matter how hard u try I think most people know that u did wrong in that situation even if your intention wasn’t to offend them.




In the end some people need to understand that even it might look like u are alone when u are streaming or playing over the internet there are allot of people that watch u if u are a professional gamer.
Is that destiny decided to offensively express him while he knows 2k people are watching him and that’s stating something. You might be comfortable when u are at home streaming thinking u are alone but u are not. He doesn’t seem to be able to acknowledge that fact and starts blaming it on other stuff.
Internet is a media to be able to express your opinions but it’s also a media that allows u to be in the public from anywhere in the world. So as Quantic Destiny I believe he did wrong expressing himself like that on his streams and games but as an individual he is entitled to do whatever he wants.

So the questions u should ask yourself if u believe a professional athlete or gamer should be able to offensively using downgrading words to their opponent when the represent sponsors and teams?. The community seem to be clear that they don’t and I fully agree. Do I believe Destiny is the only one that should be hold accountable for this . My answer is No!.


I think EG should clean up there act on Idra. I think every team should make it clear to their players that they are not allowed to shout out words like fag,nigger ect when they are repesennting there team in sc2 games. They can do whatever they want on their free time or when they are alone. If destiny likes to rage on ladder his welcome doing it on a smurf account but I don’t se the point being like that when his representing his team.

On May 05 2012 04:51 divito wrote:
I've never seen so many thin-skinned people that aren't even part of the group/ethnicity/etc... being "insulted." They just like to announce their upstanding ethical nature to pump themselves up, and to protect something that they aren't even part of. Like many people have expressed on this website, even if my group/ethnicity was to be used in a negative way, it won't bother me cause I'm bigger than that.

Whether you want to believe they meant what they said or not, choosing to be offended doesn't accomplish anything other than showcasing your mental weakness. The thing we used to all be taught as kids (sticks and stones) seems to have evaporated in this online realm and that worries me. Are we breeding a psychologically weak generation bent on complaining their way to things?

On May 05 2012 04:54 Govou wrote:


if you are a public figure and you just don't shout 'Nigger' because you are basically promoting the use of racial slurs.