Destiny and Quantic part ways - Page 62

On May 04 2012 23:08 halfies wrote:

i emailed razer. and i stand by it. personally, i think any racism in any form is absolutely disgusting, and im exactly the same in real life. if people i know act racist tell them not to, and if they keep doing it i stop any associations with them.
if you are stupid enough to think that e sports can grow beyond what it is right now with behaviour like that your very stupid.
and i dont feel bad about not giving quantic a chance to respond because if no one had made a fuss, they wouldn't have. it not the first time destiny has said thing that he wouldn't get away with in any other role, and they have continued to support him.
if quantic had chosen destiny over razer they would have been silly, and deserved to fail as a team. and obviously, razer wouldn't have stopped supporting them unless they had no choice. so i dont feel bad about hypothetical situations that were very unlikely to happen.
if you want the SC2 community to be consist solely of immature children and socially retarded adults who have no idea how the real world works, then indeed you would be better off without me as a fan, but since thats not what i want, its not something that im willing to give up basic principles to help.
and im sure youll laugh at the basic principles bit, but to me, discrimination against anything that you cant help, be it race, sexual orientation, or just a problem you were born with is wrong and should be fought at every moment it rears its head.
ive already stated why i think that destiny is actually a racist in the previous thread, and not, as many of his fanboys have said just using it as an expression of free speech, or in an attempt to help bring awareness to the problems, which is another laughable line that has been spouted several times.
the bottom line is that while what i did may not have been good for destiny, its good for esports, and TL, to attempt to distance ourselves from things like this.
if you want to have a SC2 scene where you can say things like that without getting in trouble, its called /vg/, and its fucking awful

On May 04 2012 23:31 KadaverBB wrote:



Really? yesterday stephano called hasuobs a nazi and asked him how many jews he killed last night.
Why aren't there threads up already? That was totally racist and shit.

Just for the record, i thought it was fucking funny and i am german.

On May 04 2012 23:34 natebreen wrote:


So you're so moved by your disgust for "racists" that you e-mailed razer personally, but you feel that disparaging the mentally disabled is ok:

"the idea that men are inherently better at video games is retarded."

and you felt that the orb situation was silly:

"because people love starting threads? i think they feel important
this whole thing is silly, orb shouldn't have said what he did, and people shouldn't have searched his VODs to get him sacked.
im not even sure why anyone cares."

yet another "dropping to bronze to off race is retarded, you should off race and then drop."

So is your motivation really the offensive hate-speech, or more along the lines of this:

"destiny might be better than ill ever be, but in terms of professional 'players', hes pretty awful. i think it would be fair to say that hes the worst full time SC2 gamer in terms of talent. what destiny does have is a very loyal following, and its not something he built with indifference. i dont like him, or his stream, but i will say that he puts alot of effort into it, and he seems to realize that hes an entertainer who plays games, and also that its his job, so he better do it well if he wants to eat."


This is probably the most ironic of them all (from this very post):

"immature children and socially retarded adults" vs. 3 lines later "and im sure youll laugh at the basic principles bit, but to me, discrimination against anything that you cant help, be it race, sexual orientation, or just a problem you were born with is wrong and should be fought at every moment it rears its head."

erm... what?

On May 04 2012 23:31 KadaverBB wrote:



Really? yesterday stephano called hasuobs a nazi and asked him how many jews he killed last night.
Why aren't there threads up already? That was totally racist and shit.

Just for the record, i thought it was fucking funny and i am german.

On May 04 2012 23:19 RodrigoX wrote:
I just don't get these things anymore.

It's just insane, literally, a perfect term is we are lynching people, without due process. Like, the community are a part of the freaking Salem Witch Trails. We are being judge, jury, executioner, and supreme asshole. We are not letting these events, process long enough. We are not letting objective questions, and none emotional responces govern things. We are being fucking crazy ass fiends, who just do whatever we want without any semblance of order or intelligence. We are running off emotions, and making all of us look like asses, to everybody, everywhere.

Get a grip Sc2 community, we are honestly pathetic.

On May 04 2012 23:34 sad.wish wrote:
So true though, You don't need to be profane and vulgar to get his little fan base of viewers...
Destiny needs to learn from other pros if he wants to survive in our community.
We will just keep bringing out the pitch forks if he does not change his ways..... its common sense people

On May 04 2012 23:24 ShiNwave wrote:


a) I sincerely hope people will learn from this. You cannot expect to be repping a professional organisation and expect to get away with any behaviour you'd like. It's similar to wearing Jeans as a doctor - it's just unprofessional behaviour. If you're in a position in society which requires you to act in a certain mould, don't forget that.

b) How would this have been resolved without harming Quantic in some way? Explain please - he was on their roster, he was using expletive language? Contacting sponsors I'd say is the good thing in the long term - now professional teams will enforce certain rules on their players. i.e. Teams (and players) will take this on board, and no such event will happen in the future.

c) I think that Quantic have shown their professionalism. When sponsors contact them and they say "Yes, we had a rogue, but we cut ties even though he was popular within the community", I think this shows that the organisation has integrity. If I were working for razer, and I saw that this organisation I was sponsoring was condoning this behaviour, I would have cut ties altogether.

On May 04 2012 23:28 halfies wrote:

well, if you think that destiny should use the word gook more, then i advise you to email razer and quantic stating that you think its no in common enough usage , and that you wont be supporting them unless its used at least once every time one of there players does anything in public. id also like to point out that im not 'imposing' 'my' ideology, im stating an opinion to a company, as a consumer, which is completely different. don't try to use ridiculously dramatic statements to back up a massively flawed argument. that's like saying 'by voting for X political party, your imposing your beliefs on others'
and with regards to backstabbing, what the fuck are you talking about. if i was good friends with destiny, and hadn't made any comments on the matter, and then i went behind his back to get him kicked off the team, then i would be back stabbing. i guess you could accuse me of 'front stabbing', which would be massively inflating my individual role in this, but at least would make some sense

On May 04 2012 23:38 Treva wrote:

No, what's insane is the people who try to defend him. I literally cannot understand whatsoever how people try to defend Destiny when he uses racial slurs. I've seen countless people try to defend why he should be allowed to say it. There are very, very few industries that you can actually get people to defend you when you call someone a derogatory racial slur, and esports is apparently and unfortunately one of them.

What do you want us to do? He uses a racial slur on his stream that thousands of people are watching, a thread is made, he comes into the thread saying he would rather keep using those kinds of terms instead of issuing an apology and shows no interest in changing. No one is asking for Destiny to stop saying anything, no one is asking him to be a completely different person, however this whole situation is easily avoided, if people just stop using those words. That's it. It's really not that complicated. Don't call someone a racial slur, don't get this shit fest. Works 100% of the time. If you can't control your emotions enough to not call someone a racial slur then you have some real anger issues. Go ahead and call someone trash or bad or shit or garbage but when you bring their race, gender or ethnicity into it then you are crossing the line into a very personal attack, which makes you look like an immature punk.

The part of this community that is 'pathetic' are the people who come in here and tell people to just get over it, grow thicker skin or stop being sensitive. That's absurd. Maybe some people can get offended easily than others but telling them that they should just get over it when someone throws around language like that is just ignorant. That excuse doesn't hold up in the real world and if we're trying to make this look professional why should it hold up here? Just because you're on the internet doesn't mean you should get a free pass to act like a racist idiot.