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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:44 DystopiaX wrote: I fail to see how getting the community to act more professionally will "nuke" it. the community is driven by its character, and trying to make it "professional" in this way will strip the life out of it. this is a videogame. we are videogamers. we should expect people to act like a videogamer, not some pompous golfer. | ||
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Katarto
Australia8 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:11 MaestroSC wrote: Wow what a joke. People have figured out they can feel important by emailing crap to sponsors. Looking forward to people getting kicked from teams soon just for winning on ladder, or not signing autographs at future events lol... GL to any1 who relies on sponsorship money... kiss ur fans asses or they email ur sponsors until u are dropped.... what a joke. Congratulations on a nobody feeling important and powerful though by emailing a sponsor, and trying to get what little money sponsors generate taken out of esports. This is grown ass men crying to mom when someone hurt their feelings? LOL what a joke... where do people live where everyone blows sunshine out of ur ass all day and no1 says anything that hurts ur poor little feelings? THIS JUST IN.... IF YOU DONT LIKE SOMETHING DONT WATCH IT. This is like buying a song on itunes then complaining to itunes that there was swearing in it... even when its clearly advertised that there is swearing in it LOLOL... what a fucking joke... so this is how esports will die. Next time Idra doesnt GG im emailing every sponsor!... <~ thats sarcasm btw... just showing you how out of hand this has gotten... ^ User was warned for this post | ||
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imMUTAble787
United States680 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:47 mememolly wrote: you know you didn't have to watch his stream right? stop trying to police the world to your standards seems more like the community policed an individual to the community's standards. maybe one day you'll understand this individual's opinion represents a sizeable percentage of the people on this site. lolol | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:48 pt wrote: So disappointed in this community... agreed this has set such a bad precedent in the community, it shows that mob mentality can win and will only discourage any "interesting" people from joining this scene/game through fear of one day losing sponsors because they said something controversial, the mob erroneously thinks that this will help progress sc2 but it can only hinder it | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:49 DystopiaX wrote: People are overestimating the effect of a few emails. How many people emailed? A hundred, at best? How many people casually follow esports and tune into, say, MLG? Thousands if not hundreds of thousands. Razer knows this, and knows that the number of angry nerds vs number of stream or tourney viewers is much smaller. Although I do agree that teams should be contacted directly before sponsors are. I agree with you I'm just speaking in worse case scenario situations, at least there will always be Korea if everything goes wrong is what I was getting at. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:50 TheDraken wrote: the community is driven by its character, and trying to make it "professional" in this way will strip the life out of it. this is a videogame. we are videogamers. we should expect people to act like a videogamer, not some pompous golfer. What does that mean, exactly, to "act like a videogamer?" Is using the word "gook" "acting like a videogamer?" | ||
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
yeah who needs personality. teams should just go ahead and stomp that out right now. Personality = calling people racial slurs? If you consider that personality I feel sorry for you. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
 What I am really curious about though, is how quantic were thinking when they picked him up. They knew his history. For sure they must have been aware of this being a likely outcome. Are they happy about his time on quantic, or do they wish he was never taken on? Was he beneficial for the team, summed over the entire period? Would be cool with some answers to those questions from quantic, but I guess that wont happen.  | ||
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Leth0
856 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:50 TheDraken wrote: the community is driven by its character, and trying to make it "professional" in this way will strip the life out of it. this is a videogame. we are videogamers. we should expect people to act like a videogamer, not some pompous golfer. So black and white is it... Well I'm of the opinion that this community would be far better off with more people like Incontrol who are genuinely funny, entertaining , charismatic people (who ironically gets more shit from this 'community') then some adolescent disrespectful person like destiny. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
Curse that mob mentality Y_Y | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:50 TheDraken wrote: the community is driven by its character, and trying to make it "professional" in this way will strip the life out of it. this is a videogame. we are videogamers. we should expect people to act like a videogamer, not some pompous golfer. I'm a gamer. All my friends are gamers. I don't know any one of them that uses words like "gook", "nigger", or "Chink". And there's a difference between someone gaming on their own and a professional- and to those who claim he's just a streamer in private, that's what he's best known for, and he's representing a professional gaming team. If he isn't one, then he shouldn't be on one. I'm sure tons of people playing Basketball for fun use homophobic slurs, but if an NBA player did he would get his ass fined and maybe a suspension. If you're a public figure, you're held to a different standard .Simple as that. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:51 imMUTAble787 wrote: seems more like the community policed an individual to the community's standards. maybe one day you'll understand this individual's opinion represents a sizeable percentage of the people on this site. lolol so we should just let the mob decide everything for us and allow no individuality in the scene? thanks lolol | ||
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:48 motbob wrote: Sorry to break it to you, but the Destiny thing got zero play on reddit. This was all the TL community. The voice of reason exists. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:51 motbob wrote: What does that mean, exactly, to "act like a videogamer?" Is using the word "gook" "acting like a videogamer?" Not really, but I do get the impression that people try way to hard to legitimize something that, at the end of the day, is just a videogame, and still a marginal part of main-stream society. | ||
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Blennd
United States266 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:47 Dodgin wrote: Not talking about professionalism, I mean if sponsors keep getting contacted about every little thing and pull out eventually. Every little thing? If it was such a little mishap you would have thought every major player would have made a similar mistake by now. But they haven't. I can honestly say I've gone my entire life without ever having uttered a racial slur in the workplace. So have all my friends. So have the majority of people, because they know they would get fired if they did. It's not really that hard for most sane, adult humans to not ever say racial slurs at work, not even once. | ||
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SgtCoDFish
United Kingdom1520 Posts
But the thing that grates with me is that people write to the sponsors. That just seems so counterproductive. The correct thing to do in my eyes would be to write to the teams and express your displeasure with the particular player. Writing to sponsors just hurts everyone, including yourself if you're a genuine fan of the game and not out to troll and watch the world burn. Writing to sponsors would maybe be appropriate if a team's management was acting incredibly inappropriately and had been shown to not give a fuck about what anyone thought. But even then it still seems iffy, and I'd sooner see boycotts and the like over writing to sponsors. I'm not sure, but I feel many pro players would feel the same way; it would be helpful if any who do could put together a joint statement to the community saying that writing to sponsors is just bad. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:51 motbob wrote: What does that mean, exactly, to "act like a videogamer?" Is using the word "gook" "acting like a videogamer?" its not even worth it man. | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:51 motbob wrote: What does that mean, exactly, to "act like a videogamer?" Is using the word "gook" "acting like a videogamer?" How can you deny there's a culture around gaming that includes offensive words, raging, and general internet based angst? And there's an argument for preserving that, at least IMO. The better point is...we are gamers, Destiny is a professional, and there needs to be a line there. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
This community makes me really sad sometime. | ||
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:45 zerglingrodeo wrote: It is astonishing how quickly people make assumptions about the character and motivations of those with whom they disagree in this thread. There are a lot of posts about how anyone who emailed the sponsors/Quantic have no motivation other than 'stroking their egos' or maliciously 'ruining careers' or flexing their newfound 'power' or their love of 'drama.' Isn't it possible that at least some of these people find public use of racist language unacceptable? That said, it goes both ways. Just as sw ought not simply assume that those who are glad to see Quantic part ways with Destiny are power-tripping 'white knights' (whatever that is supposed to mean), we ought not assume that Destiny supporters are all 'immature' or 'racists' or 'KKK members.' Have a little charity in your interpretation of the opposition, people. so then don't watch him. the link is labeled explicit. if a person goes on there and gets offended, they have no one else to blame. but trying to screw him over is horrible. | ||
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