EPTDestiny and Quantic part ways - Page 11
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Ashes
United States362 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
For better or for worse things are changing around sc2 and how the teams/community functions compared to a year ago or even less than that. Oh well I'll always have the GSL/OSL/PL even if the foreign sc2 scene nukes itself into oblivion. | ||
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Matsu
Philippines1 Post
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TeamBanished
United States301 Posts
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7799 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:20 IPA wrote: Good decision from Quantic. Much respect. This was a mutual agreement from both sides and not a decision by Quantic, you imbecile. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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bhfberserk
Canada390 Posts
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:35 motbob wrote: Man, I'm probably going to look really biased in my moderating once all this is over. But all of the profanity-laced angry posts are coming from Destiny supporters. maybe because we find it outrageous that someone would have the nerve to try to damage someone financially just because they were offended? of course the people that are pleased with the decision aren't going to be mad. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:41 Leth0 wrote: I've gotten frustrated over sc2 ladder multiple times, and never in all the those times, has half the disrespectful things that come out of that kids keyboard ever even crossed my mind....so speak for yourself. I've never said anything bad either. Either left without saying anything or complained about balance, maybe said fuck a few times, never attacked an opponent at all. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
Destiny could easily have taken this to a thread discussion on words (as he as done in the past). Not all sponsors may react to the letters or notifications of offensive speech, but using such speech while representing yourself, your team and the sponsor in front of 5000+ viewers is an invitation for this kind of crap. I think on one hand, people need to relax and understand the kind of competitive emotion that may cause the occasional behavioral flair up. On the other vast majority of control is in the hand of the streamer, and you can't just do whatever you want if you also have money and contractual obligations attached to yourself. It kind of expected really. Get popular enough and that sort of "shock jock" type attitude will get you burned eventually. Not really surprising or worth getting riled up about. Destiny can still be Destiny if he wants, he just kind of can't expect sponsors to want to be associated with that sort of thing in this day and age. Maybe find a sponsor that doesn't mind that sort of attitude. | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:42 TheDraken wrote: maybe because we find it outrageous that someone would have the nerve to try to damage someone financially just because they were offended? of course the people that are pleased with the decision aren't going to be mad. Doesn't mean that that language should be acceptable under TL rules. You might be mad this time, I might be mad the next time. Rules are still rules. Hell I've been banned for getting a little too heated before. The fact that Destiny's supporters are more likely to get angry doesn't make their offenses ok. | ||
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partisan
United States783 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:41 Dodgin wrote: I'm starting to see a pattern here. For better or for worse things are changing around sc2 and how the teams/community functions compared to a year ago or even less than that. Oh well I'll always have the GSL/OSL/PL even if the foreign sc2 scene nukes itself into oblivion. I fail to see how getting the community to act more professionally will "nuke" it. | ||
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ShakaZu.Sc2
United States131 Posts
Im glad that at least a good amount of the community realized that and didn't rush to email Razer, and if you did I urge you to think about the big picture before you do something so rash. And if you think that the "big picture" doesn't matter then you actually are hurting eSports. If "racist and offensive" speech is bad for esports and Starcraft and thats why you did emailed Razer then you should be able to realize that destroying teams and chasing away sponsors is just as bad. People should have been mailing Quantic not Razer. And if the only reason you emailed anyone is because you wanted to join the mob and had nothing else to do then shame on you. We have to be a more intelligent community if we want Starcraft to go mainstream | ||
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zerglingrodeo
United States910 Posts
Isn't it possible that at least some of these people find public use of racist language unacceptable? That said, it goes both ways. Just as sw ought not simply assume that those who are glad to see Quantic part ways with Destiny are power-tripping 'white knights' (whatever that is supposed to mean), we ought not assume that Destiny supporters are all 'immature' or 'racists' or 'KKK members.' Have a little charity in your interpretation of the opposition, people. | ||
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Jtom
Ireland1044 Posts
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
Come-on. How many potential sponsors have we lost with the racist remarks, compared to how many sponsors we've hurt and deterred through the lynching and weekly witch hunts. "We need to legitimize E-Sports and if that means getting rid of racist pigs, then so be it" No. That's not going to be the solution to anything at all. How many streamers who have a fan base and some type of affiliation to a team or organization are going to hide their real selves now in fear of a single slip up? CatZ and Minigun are two people who use moderately foul language, are you going to see them be themselves now? No. Do you want to kill personalities who have helped build this community to what it is today just because you feel the need to legitimize E-Sports? If you guys want this to get any bigger then it is, you have to get the fuck over what someone said when playing in a private game. You're not legitimizing anything. All you're doing is making SC2 look like a big joke where if someone says one bad thing then they're jumped on. I'd say that is doing the opposite, delegitimizing what we built up. Like I said, this vile, disgusting and hypocritical community is going to be the downfall of such an entertaining, relaxing, tense and beautiful sport. Give yourselves a pat on the back for killing the people who helped builds this to what it is today. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
CURSE YOU TL | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:44 ShakaZu.Sc2 wrote: The funny part of it all is everyone saying the community did a good job. If doing a "good job" was having the potential for Razer to just stop sponsoring Starcraft 2 in general then awesome we should keep it up. People need to realize that literally the ONLY people affected by this was every player on Quantic BESIDES Destiny. As he said this doesn't affect him at all, ultimately he doesn't care that much. On the other hand Quantic had the potential to actually be destroyed as a team. Im glad that at least a good amount of the community realized that and didn't rush to email Razer, and if you did I urge you to think about the big picture before you do something so rash. And if you think that the "big picture" doesn't matter then you actually are hurting eSports. If "racist and offensive" speech is bad for esports and Starcraft and thats why you did emailed Razer then you should be able to realize that destroying teams and chasing away sponsors is just as bad. People should have been mailing Quantic not Razer. And if the only reason you emailed anyone is because you wanted to join the mob and had nothing else to do then shame on you. We have to be a more intelligent community if we want Starcraft to go mainstream Kind of agree but I doubt Razer is going to pack their bags and leave over emails. Should definitely go to the teams first. But Razer does their research and I'm pretty sure they realize that more people are going to see the Razer logos while tuning into MLG than people who get angry on the internet. | ||
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Poor destiny. He didn't deserve this...It was common ladder rage.
