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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 04 2012 07:35 GMT
#181
Man, I'm probably going to look really biased in my moderating once all this is over. But all of the profanity-laced angry posts are coming from Destiny supporters.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Mithridates
Profile Joined June 2011
United States446 Posts
May 04 2012 07:36 GMT
#182
On May 04 2012 16:32 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:29 Mithridates wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:24 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:22 Mithridates wrote:
These witchunts destroy the scene. We are trying to get corporation interested in sponsoring starcraft 2 not the other way around

If sponsors check out a potential scene and find it full of racism, sexism, and homophobia I doubt they'll be very interested either.

Where does it end though? If a player makes a tiny fuckup his career can be destroyed? Destiny isnt the only pro with legions of haters. what is keeping these people on their teams if its this easy to destroy their careers

It's not though. I would consider using "gook" to be pretty serious. Remember that for this to work many people have to get worked up, and that's not going to happen over nothing. Look at IdrA. Dude's got more haters than Destiny for sure, and he's still in EG.

I wouldn't say tiny fuckup, and not "destroyed". But commit something as serious as this and yeah there should be consequences.

To reply maybe Razer isnt okay with this type of language, but large corporate sponsors dont care about the communities ethics. They care about money and big name corporations are the type of sponsors sc2 needs if its ever going to get anywhere.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 04 2012 07:36 GMT
#183
On May 04 2012 16:35 Nekovivie wrote:
Wow, nowhere on the first couple of pages is anyone just posting "Liquid'Destiny" or "EGDestiny".

I guess people got bored of that.

I think most also realize it's highly unlikely that's going to happen- EG has talked to IdrA for saying much less offensive things, and both teams like to view themselves as professional, especially Liquid, they're known for having good AND manner players.
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
May 04 2012 07:36 GMT
#184
Don't let the door hit ya.

User was warned for this post
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Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
May 04 2012 07:36 GMT
#185
On May 04 2012 16:29 give.ViviD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:24 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:22 Mithridates wrote:
These witchunts destroy the scene. We are trying to get corporation interested in sponsoring starcraft 2 not the other way around

If sponsors check out a potential scene and find it full of racism, sexism, and homophobia I doubt they'll be very interested either.



One person said gook in a moment of rage. It's not equal to being racist. Get your facts straight you newly knighted "White Knight". Gaming "communities" will always be full of foul language because that's what gaming causes, I've screamed nigger, faggot and all other kinds of words at my computer scream when losing on a tilt, it doesn't mean I'm racist.

It seems like people are forgetting what we're even supposed to be doing here; having fun. This isn't a work place nor an intellectual forum, we play a game and discuss it. But now it's all about slandering the people playing it for faulting like everyone else does.


If you are screaming at your computer screen while launching obscenities at it, then i question how much fun you are really having.

There is something disturbing that people see this as entertainment, i wonder how entertaining it would be if someone called your mother or sister a whore, would just stand there and chuckle? LMAO LOLZ? Because i bet the tone would be very different all of a sudden, no longer is it lulzy i bet?

★ Top Gun ★
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
May 04 2012 07:37 GMT
#186
On May 04 2012 16:29 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:28 blamous wrote:
I would just like to point out that the same blind sense of anonymity and rage that allows guys like Destiny and Orb to TYPE UGLY WORDS IN A FREAKIN CHAT is the exact same blind sense of anonymity and rage that allows other more self righteous people to write the hateful emails that are COSTING PEOPLE THEIR JOBS AND LIVELIHOODS.

You tell me which is more caustic and hurtful... fucking hypocrites.

Who's job was lost? Read Destiny's email. He even admits that his Quantic sponsorship wasn't worth shit. He makes all his money streaming and he knows it, that's why he didn't care.


it's the fact that there's a ton of people in here acting like they are moving towards the greater good when really they're out to just fuck with people they don't like.

the same people that have been writing posts like:
"man fuck destiny he's such an asshole. he doesn't even perform well in tournaments you're all just obsessed with a bad player. to make it worse his chat is full of asshole morons"

hopped on this movement to get back at destiny.

and now they're on here writing posts like:
"wow i'm very glad to see this. good to see esports growing more professional and losing the people who say hurtful and offensive things."


it's disgusting.
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nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
May 04 2012 07:37 GMT
#187
On May 04 2012 16:35 motbob wrote:
Man, I'm probably going to look really biased in my moderating once all this is over. But all of the profanity-laced angry posts are coming from Destiny supporters.


I'm not a destiny supporter. And why isn't their any repercussions about Monk using the word "retard"?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 07:38:32
May 04 2012 07:37 GMT
#188
On May 04 2012 16:35 motbob wrote:
Man, I'm probably going to look really biased in my moderating once all this is over. But all of the profanity-laced angry posts are coming from Destiny supporters.

haha realized that reading the ABL. Post standards are post standards. Althoug the dude you temped for using all caps may be a little harsh. (Is this not the right place?)

On May 04 2012 16:36 Mithridates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:32 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:29 Mithridates wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:24 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:22 Mithridates wrote:
These witchunts destroy the scene. We are trying to get corporation interested in sponsoring starcraft 2 not the other way around

If sponsors check out a potential scene and find it full of racism, sexism, and homophobia I doubt they'll be very interested either.

Where does it end though? If a player makes a tiny fuckup his career can be destroyed? Destiny isnt the only pro with legions of haters. what is keeping these people on their teams if its this easy to destroy their careers

It's not though. I would consider using "gook" to be pretty serious. Remember that for this to work many people have to get worked up, and that's not going to happen over nothing. Look at IdrA. Dude's got more haters than Destiny for sure, and he's still in EG.

I wouldn't say tiny fuckup, and not "destroyed". But commit something as serious as this and yeah there should be consequences.

To reply maybe Razer isnt okay with this type of language, but large corporate sponsors dont care about the communities ethics. They care about money and big name corporations are the type of sponsors sc2 needs if its ever going to get anywhere.

And those corporations will be much more afraid of a shitstorm than Razer will be. At the point those kinds of companies are involved I'd expect eSports to be much more self regulated anyway, and crack down on stuff like this.
- special tactics -
Profile Joined March 2012
Ukraine39 Posts
May 04 2012 07:37 GMT
#189
[x] non admission of fault
[x] amicable relationship with team
[x] i'll sacrifice rather than the team
[x] work for the team in some ways in the future

BONUS:

[x] attack haters
[x] continue with douchebaggery comments

All's well that ends well.
White Ra is my hero!
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
May 04 2012 07:37 GMT
#190
To be honest that's not really surprising.

Do you think any destiny supporters took the time (or had the capacity) to write a well written email to Quantic or the sponsors about how much they enjoyed watching his stream and how much they appreciate the support he was getting?

I highly doubt it.
give.ViviD
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden235 Posts
May 04 2012 07:37 GMT
#191
On May 04 2012 16:31 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:29 give.ViviD wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:24 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:22 Mithridates wrote:
These witchunts destroy the scene. We are trying to get corporation interested in sponsoring starcraft 2 not the other way around

If sponsors check out a potential scene and find it full of racism, sexism, and homophobia I doubt they'll be very interested either.



One person said gook in a moment of rage. It's not equal to being racist. Get your facts straight you newly knighted "White Knight". Gaming "communities" will always be full of foul language because that's what gaming causes, I've screamed nigger, faggot and all other kinds of words at my computer scream when losing on a tilt, it doesn't mean I'm racist.

It seems like people are forgetting what we're even supposed to be doing here; having fun. This isn't a work place nor an intellectual forum, we play a game and discuss it. But now it's all about slandering the people playing it for faulting like everyone else does.

Seems like you've never watched Destiny stream. He does this all the time. He's well known for it. He admits to doing it, and not caring (see guesting on SoTG). It's not 1 time. Not that that matters. Look at pro sports organizations. Use one racial swear and see if you're not fined thousands.

also, you gaming by yourself and a public figure broadcasting his games are two separate things.


This isn't a pro sports organization, this is a pathetic utopia of nerds who doesn't have anything better to do and Quantic is merely a small computer game organization. And yes I tune in to Destiny quite often, and I can honestly say that I've heard him say something "unacceptable" once or twice. Now that's just my experience but what the flying fuck does that matter when 20 people have nothing better to do than inflict unnecessary damage to an already bleeding community.

And my example of gaming by myself was to justify his rage because it's a natural thing when gaming, if you can't restrain it you're not human. Goddamn you bore me, do you get offended when Family Guy makes a joke about rape too? People are too easily offended these days, grow some balls and backbones you weak nerds.
Snackysnacks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States411 Posts
May 04 2012 07:38 GMT
#192
On May 04 2012 16:35 motbob wrote:
Man, I'm probably going to look really biased in my moderating once all this is over. But all of the profanity-laced angry posts are coming from Destiny supporters.

I think you should just say average internet folk since there's still the chunk of destiny supporters who don't use such language but feel harassed since we get stereotyped into that group.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Jsanko
Profile Joined March 2010
Slovakia120 Posts
May 04 2012 07:39 GMT
#193
On May 04 2012 16:33 GiGabyte wrote:
Hopefully TL keeps him unlisted.


For example I disagree with this, there is already warning 'This stream contains explicit language.' which should 'protect' anyone who wants to not be offended.
Actually I really feel sad for anyone to be unlisted even if they deserve that sometimes. Don't forget its also hurting people who wants to watch their favorite players. Censorship like this scares me big time :S
Mineralzzzzz...
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 07:39:22
May 04 2012 07:39 GMT
#194
Aww Poor destiny. He didn't deserve this...It was common ladder rage.
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TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
May 04 2012 07:39 GMT
#195
On May 04 2012 16:30 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:29 TheDraken wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:09 Leth0 wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:07 zerglingrodeo wrote:
I am really happy to see this. The fact that people can stand up and do something about the public use of racial slurs is very positive, and gives me hope.


Agreed, it's one of the few times it actually feels good to be a part of the community. Cheers. =)


are you kidding me?

the kind of people that actually write to sponsors like that care nothing about some righteous duty to save the public from hearing bad things. all they want is revenge, because they were on the ass end of one of destiny's flames. they know that crying racism to sponsors will majorly stir shit up, and it takes a pretty pathetic person to go cause permanent damage for some words someone said.

So 1 guy=the whole community now? At least try to be realistic with your accusations.


do you support the "1 guy" that did that?

because to me that makes it just as bad as if you did it yourself.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 07:52:24
May 04 2012 07:40 GMT
#196
On May 04 2012 16:37 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:35 motbob wrote:
Man, I'm probably going to look really biased in my moderating once all this is over. But all of the profanity-laced angry posts are coming from Destiny supporters.


I'm not a destiny supporter. And why isn't their any repercussions about Monk using the word "retard"?

I already made my statement on reddit:
Going to respond to my comments about me in the OP. This is actually my 2nd post on reddit and I only got on because someone told me my PM was presented. I used the word "retard" more because I was ignorant of its offensive nature than because I wanted to offend anyone. I'll be more careful not to use such language in the future and I apologize if I offended anyone.. I was also directing one of Destiny's supporters in PRIVATE message to where he could air his grievances, which explains where the screenshot came from.
Moderator
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 04 2012 07:40 GMT
#197
On May 04 2012 16:37 TheDraken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:29 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:28 blamous wrote:
I would just like to point out that the same blind sense of anonymity and rage that allows guys like Destiny and Orb to TYPE UGLY WORDS IN A FREAKIN CHAT is the exact same blind sense of anonymity and rage that allows other more self righteous people to write the hateful emails that are COSTING PEOPLE THEIR JOBS AND LIVELIHOODS.

You tell me which is more caustic and hurtful... fucking hypocrites.

Who's job was lost? Read Destiny's email. He even admits that his Quantic sponsorship wasn't worth shit. He makes all his money streaming and he knows it, that's why he didn't care.


it's the fact that there's a ton of people in here acting like they are moving towards the greater good when really they're out to just fuck with people they don't like.

the same people that have been writing posts like:
"man fuck destiny he's such an asshole. he doesn't even perform well in tournaments you're all just obsessed with a bad player. to make it worse his chat is full of asshole morons"

hopped on this movement to get back at destiny.

and now they're on here writing posts like:
"wow i'm very glad to see this. good to see esports growing more professional and losing the people who say hurtful and offensive things."


it's disgusting.

Yeah there are some of those, but then there are those that try to get IdrA off of EG as well and nothing happens there.

I think far more people saw what he wrote/has been writing and saying and got sick of it. I don't watch Destiny because I know he isn't for me. I didn't personally write in but I support those who did, because I don't believe that behavior should be tolerated anywhere. You can't do much about it on XBL or in-game, but if you can hold someone accountable I think you should.
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
May 04 2012 07:40 GMT
#198
I will gladly continue to express my dislike of Destiny, as per his own rant. Your insensitive attitude towards the community, unprofessional manner/behavior, does not encourage the growth of e-sports.

I don't know why you think your the shit, but in the end, it's performance results, sportsmanlike attitude (arrogant or humble), hard work, that makes you respected in this community and sport.

Sure you might have fans now because your a US foreigner, but in the end your crappy attitude will bite you back, and you will become irrelevant, if you don't change
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Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
May 04 2012 07:41 GMT
#199
On May 04 2012 16:39 Thylacine wrote:
Aww Poor destiny. He didn't deserve this...It was common ladder rage.


I've gotten frustrated over sc2 ladder multiple times, and never in all the those times, has half the disrespectful things that come out of that kids keyboard ever even crossed my mind....so speak for yourself.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
May 04 2012 07:41 GMT
#200
On May 04 2012 16:35 motbob wrote:
Man, I'm probably going to look really biased in my moderating once all this is over. But all of the profanity-laced angry posts are coming from Destiny supporters.


Well, you did temp ban both sides who go overboard in this thread. And we should already know that TL doesn't tolerate profanity and racial slurs and hate messages.
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