EPTI personally disagree with the witchhunt that's going on right now. I feel like people theorycraft too much about what other people think about e-sports and as a result overreact to everything that happens. Stop assuming that the scene is going to die just because of how Destiny acts on his stream (when people could easily be putting up mature language filters if THEY REALLY ARE BEING OFFENDED BY THESE WORDS) until this actually happens.
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dmasterding
United States205 Posts
I personally disagree with the witchhunt that's going on right now. I feel like people theorycraft too much about what other people think about e-sports and as a result overreact to everything that happens. Stop assuming that the scene is going to die just because of how Destiny acts on his stream (when people could easily be putting up mature language filters if THEY REALLY ARE BEING OFFENDED BY THESE WORDS) until this actually happens. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25958 Posts
On May 02 2012 04:58 Zoesan wrote: I use faggot in a similar way as you do (probably) and it's not my gay friends that are offended, but people acting 'on their behalf' to appear fucking progressive and tolerant. To divine the meaning of what is said and whether there is racist/homophobic etc intent requires an ability to contexualise which half of the respondents here seem to lack. Racist epithets don't always denote racist viewpoints. Do you really think razer will care? Seriously? My opinion on this is: if you get offended by words, you deserve to be offended. Destiny is famous because he cusses and sweards and uses slurs. Don't like it don't watch. I don't watch his stream, I don't like him particularly. But I'm not crying and bitching about the use of words. If he started killing asians (or what have you), that would be something else. It's just like gay and faggot, words I use all the time. Hell, one of my best friends is gay and he doesn't give a flying fuck about the language I use, because he knows how I stand. | ||
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zidaneshead
245 Posts
On May 02 2012 05:01 Silvertine wrote: He wasn't trying to personally offend an Asian person... by telling them "Fuck off gook"? You must realize how ridiculous that sounds. I mean I'm personally not gonna letterbomb his sponsors or anything like that, but some of the things Destiny's apologists are saying in this thread are unreal. | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
On May 02 2012 04:59 Holytornados wrote: And a mature language filter for those he plays against in game. he was insulted in front of thousands of viewers. and also, as I stated before in this thread: "mature words" are not the same as prejudice and racist slurs. those are pretty immature words to me. I would like to still see what someone is saying #@$@, and if someone is being a racist during a game, I will report them to blizz. | ||
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Zaqwert
United States411 Posts
It's like when kids you didn't even know woul tell "yo mamma" jokes. I was like, oh this is supposed to get me mad? Someone who has never met my mom staying "bad" stuff about her to get a rile out of me is supposed to get a rile out of me? When you insult someone it seems like the goal is to make them angry or sad. By not getting upset, you win. By getting upset, they win. | ||
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Audemed
United States893 Posts
Should contact quantic's sponsors though. | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On May 02 2012 05:02 Argolis wrote: So streamers using less slurs will solve racism. I'm shocked nobody figured this out yet! People in general using less slurs will help solve racism yes...is that really shocking or ludicrous for you? | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On May 02 2012 04:55 TheKefka wrote: I think its sorta late to make a serious post in this thread,but just stop for a second and think about the situation in which he used the word gook and the sort of punishment some of you people are advocating by emailing his sponsors/team,whatever.Your essentially trying to get a guy fired for using a bad word in a state of rage which,partially,the OP induced.I'm not a destiny fan but do you honestly think having him loose his job would satisfy you in any way? Speaking about double standards why has no one started this "email the sponsors" craze before,while he was actively throwing the words nigger and rape around which was 100 times worse imo(when you casually say it without a second thought) than the context in which the word gook was used in this situation,out of ladder rage. Oh yea,orb was fired in the mean time so the people suddenly feel empowered to decide when its right to ask for a persons head on a plate.I don't get how so many of you are in such a drunk rage to get a man fired when I bet most of you had a situation in real life,in which if I would have taken a out of context screen shot or video I could run out to your boss and get you fired for it. I don't think that racial discrimination is right and I don't think we should encourage it,but this "KILL IT WITH FIRE" mentality is something that I am really confused by. To be fair, it's not the first time and probably not the last, like some of his fans stated, he does it all the time. Most of the people who complain here just want him to be defeatured. After all, he has 0 results. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 02 2012 05:02 Argolis wrote: So streamers using less slurs will solve racism. I'm shocked nobody figured this out yet! That's not what he said at all. | ||
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Taug
United States146 Posts
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HorsemasterK
United States606 Posts
On May 02 2012 05:02 Wombat_NI wrote: I use faggot in a similar way as you do (probably) and it's not my gay friends that are offended, but people acting 'on their behalf' to appear fucking progressive and tolerant. To divine the meaning of what is said and whether there is racist/homophobic etc intent requires an ability to contexualise which half of the respondents here seem to lack. Racist epithets don't always denote racist viewpoints. So you honestly expect people to have some divine knowledge of your innner thoughts to KNOW that you are not racist, or to somehow assume that when you use racist/homophobic language you are, in fact, NOT racist? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On May 02 2012 04:57 Denzil wrote: So you're trying to save the scene by destroying the scene? If "the scene" is so fragile that it can be destroyed by some racist comments made over the internet, maybe those hoping to earn their living off "the scene" should make alternative career plans. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:16 WardenSC wrote: I was playing vs QuanticDestiny a few hours ago where he was calling me a "gook" and a bunch of offensive words. Now I understand that one may get frustrated if he/she loses in a game (I've been there myself). I also understand that it is his stream and he may say that he can do whatever the hell he wants in his stream. However, he stands now as a "community figure" who has the reach to influence thousands of viewers daily and can skew the public's view of sc2 community in an extremely negative direction. Isn't it reasonable to expect a level of professionalism from a player that plays on a professional team? I just don't think spurting out racial slurs left and right in front of a large audience is why Quantic sponsors Destiny to market their team. As a note, I don't think QuanticDestiny is a true racist. However, I do believe that ignorance towards his excessive use of racial slurs would eventually lead to tolerance within the community and that would be a very dangerous outcome. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/y8F8n.jpg) define professionalism, professionalism doesn't = whatever makes you happy the thing that made destiny a community figure is this exact image, that is why quantic hired him, why should he stop what made him popular in the first place just because it upsets some people while others know it is just entertainment? If you don't like then don't watch, if you're playing him and he says something then block him and report him to blizz but don't try and nerf the world just because you're upset, some people know destiny is just angry and not a real racist, again, don't try and protect me or insult me by setting your standards on me Sapping individuality and freedom out of the game and forcing a certain behavior on players is, I'd argue, more dangerous than a few racial slurs from a troll streamer like Destiny | ||
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denzelz
United States604 Posts
On May 02 2012 05:02 Kaitlin wrote: Actually, you can't compare the two. You can't compare people playing a video game over the internet to organized professional sports leagues. Derek Jeter is a member of Major League Baseball. The commissioner can punish him for making racial slurs as it hurts Major League Baseball. Destiny is not part of any such "League". Now, he has entered into contracts with Quantic, and sponsors, so they can make their own business decisions of whether they want to be associated with him, but they can't "punish" him. They can't stop him from doing what he does. They can simply cut their ties. Here's a solution. To those who are offended by Destiny, go write an email to Razer or whoever sponsors Quantic. I've already sent my email. That's probably the most effective way to get him to stop. Arguing in here is not productive at all. | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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Greece127 Posts
On May 02 2012 04:58 besteady wrote: Yes, the people complaining about someone in destinys position calling someone a faggot and a gook infront of thousands of (possibly young)viewers need to "live and let live". No , they should close that stream if they re offended and not support the guy. They should also not click on the "are you 18?" question just before you open the stream and read better in order to see the notification "explicit content". This isnt an issue of the viewer , quit making it that. Its none of your bussiness what he says on his stream you have a choice to not watch it and not support him. The only person who has a right to be outraged is the OP and receiver of the insults. | ||
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dmasterding
United States205 Posts
On May 02 2012 05:05 HorsemasterK wrote: So you honestly expect people to have some divine knowledge of your innner thoughts to KNOW that you are not racist, or to somehow assume that when you use racist/homophobic language you are, in fact, NOT racist? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... You don't have to have divine knowledge of someone's inner thoughts to realize that they aren't racist. This can easily be figured out just by actually paying attention to how that person acts for even a short period of time, instead of going completely apeshit whenever he says the word. | ||
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
On May 02 2012 05:05 denzelz wrote: Here's a solution. To those who are offended by Destiny, go write an email to Razer or whoever sponsors Quantic. I've already sent my email. That's probably the most effective way to get him to stop. Arguing in here is not productive at all. I'll stick with emailing quantic for now. if things dont change with destiny I will be emailing the sponsors of quantic, because they will have ignored many emails explaining how lame it is for destiny to use prejudice and racial slurs when streaming | ||
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