Racial Slurs in QuanticDestiny's Stream - Page 38

On May 02 2012 01:01 Excludos wrote:



NO! NO! This needs to stop right here right now! This is the orb story all over again. This thread is filled with hypocrites who have nothing better to do than to run around trying to ruin other's careers. Do you have ANY idea how fucking hard it is to obtain a sponsor? You can trash talk Destiny all you want, but do NOT start whining to the sponsors. You can be offended all you want. Nothing happens when you get offended. But you step over the line the second you start trying to make someone lose their jobs.

All this talk about "ruining esports". This is it, right here. Not Destiny or Orb for calling people names. But YOU for trying to ruining their jobs.

On May 02 2012 01:00 Kamakiri wrote:


I find it hard to belive that you have a rational argument for that, since slurs can only harm your feelings, which is easily countered by growing a thicker skin. In my opinion you are just a person that holds you own opinions for more worth than others, a kind of opinion "racism" in some sense.

On May 02 2012 01:01 Excludos wrote:



NO! NO! This needs to stop right here right now! This is the orb story all over again. This thread is filled with hypocrites who have nothing better to do than to run around trying to ruin other's careers. Do you have ANY idea how fucking hard it is to obtain a sponsor? You can trash talk Destiny all you want, but do NOT start whining to the sponsors. You can be offended all you want. Nothing happens when you get offended. But you step over the line the second you start trying to make someone lose their jobs.

All this talk about "ruining esports". This is it, right here. Not Destiny or Orb for calling people names. But YOU for trying to ruining their jobs.

On May 02 2012 00:53 Nimic wrote:
I find the amount of people who say things like "grow up", "welcome to the real world", "just some kid on the internet" pretty funny. I don't understand how that has somehow become the soundbyte of the people who defend Destiny on this. Seems to me like it makes more sense the other way around. I've spent some amount of time in the "real world", and I can guarantee you that that shit doesn't fly there. For whatever reason, Destiny is a public person when it comes to the SC2 community, at least when he's streaming, and particularly when he is a featured streamer on a site like Team Liquid.

Grow up? Right back at you.

On May 02 2012 01:06 Karak wrote:


I live and work in the very real world. Many of those who are in agreement with my sentiments likely do as well. If "Esports" ever wants to achieve mainstream success and widespread sponsor support, then you all need to wake up and realize how the real world works. If you want it to just stay a niche thing for a small group of people, then fine, but I get the feeling most of you don't.

I've watched the esports movement grow from afar with the perspective of my IRL job and experience for a while now. Until issues like this are solved or understood, it stands 0% chance of success getting anywhere. It already is a massive uphill battle as is. A battle I want the community to win.

I understand many of the people here are younger or haven't worked or experienced a real world work or consumer environment yet, but these ideas should still be plainly understood by anyone who consumes contemporary media.

On May 02 2012 00:33 chatuka wrote:


key word is in what context? What is a joke? or what is dead serious?

If Naniwa was dead serious on killing somebody, he would have probably described to the person what he would do in detail. Maybe not. But the inference of whether a joke about killing somebody can be easily discerned. And the police
and authorities should probably be more involved than the SC2 community at large.

On May 02 2012 01:08 zefreak wrote:


? Did I say this?

You'd be surprised how many people in the US still have racist ideas and prejudices, even while attempting to reconcile them with enlightenment era egalitarianism. The intellect often gets ahead of itself. He seems to me to be someone who holds these prejudices, probably unintentionally, while playing it off as 'joking' as a way of reconciling them with the fact that intellectually he knows such prejudices are unfounded.

On May 02 2012 01:08 AllHailTheDead wrote:




couldnt agree more with this and what goswer said


lets ruin this guys career and sponsorship from esports just cause of this


get over yourself and grow up

On May 02 2012 01:10 TheWarbler wrote:
Kind of funny how people care when Orb used racial slurs but when Destiney does it is OK. I still think orb deserved what he got from EG.

On May 02 2012 01:07 Destiny wrote:
Sigh, I promised myself I wouldn't dive into this thread, but I can't resist...



"Ignorant to other people's feelings"? Maybe if I spammed him with messages after the game, or added him and told my stream to harass and stalk him. Maybe if I messaged him on Skype or sent him e-mails. Calling someone a nigger/faggot/gook/cheese/piece of shit/queer/mother fucker/step-mother fucker etc...at the end of a game before leaving? You honestly think that people who rage at the end of games lack empathy? You should be a psychiatrist!

If I knew what WHAT words meant to WHAT people? Lots of people find different words offensive. List of possible offensive words -

faggot - offensive to the gay community
nigger - offensive to the black community
gook - offensive to asians(?)
spic - offensive to hispanics
retarded - offensive to mentally challenged
rape - offensive to rape victims
snipe - offensive to war veterans
nuke - offensive to descendants of hiroshima survivors
grammar nazi - offensive to descendants of concentration camp survivors
murdered - offensive to people who've experienced death in family
cancer on the community - offensive to people who've suffered from cancer

Now, here's the fun part. Without sounding like a bigot, I want you to tell me which words I can and cannot say, and why certain groups of people are special enough to have certain words not said for them, and the others are unworthy of said "protected status". Good luck!

I love this at the end..."His opinions that either its "stupid" or "illogical" to have such negative feelings attached to racial words just means that he simply does not understand individuality."

Because nothing says individuality like taking offense to a simple word spoken out of context that at one point in time was used to insult a collective group of individuals.



Eh, I could be humble here, but nah, fuck that. I'm pretty damned good with people. Ask anyone who sees me at any MLG, I'll stop and sign anything or take a picture with anyone, regardless of the length of the line. People that you guys hold to much higher "friendly" standards, though, such as Day9, Huk, Nony, and others? They SPLIT the second they think a crowd is gathering and they do their best to stay away from any places where they could be mobbed.

So how do you judge whether someone is "good with people"? Is it based on the facade they put up when they know they're under the public eye? Or is it based on how they actually interact with other people?




Ah, my bad. I was unaware of the several hundred year old stream viewers I have. I'll try to cater to that audience more.

Seriously, though? You want me to cater to an audience of people that define themselves based on some insulting words that someone said about their ancestors hundreds of years ago? If we played that game, there are tons of other words we should cut out of our dictionary (for just black people, I can think of the word "boy", "negro", and "colored", and I'm sure there are many more for many other groups of people).



Ah, now here, I'm going to have to call you a brainless fucking piece of shit. I can't even believe you would have the audacity to fucking call me out on something like that. You have absolutely no fucking idea what I have or haven't experienced in my past. A lot of the immature and childish bullshit that you call "hardship" (OH NO SOMEONE SAID NIGGER, OH GOD HE SAID FAGGOT, OH NO HE MADE FUN OF MY PANTS) PALES in comparison to a lot of the shit I've had to deal with in my life. Maybe the difference in perspective is one of the reasons why I'm able to look past absolutely pointless bullshit like this and someone like you turns it into the focal point of a huge discussion. You want my child to get bullied in high school? Seriously, I would dedicate all 130 lbs of my tiny frame into the beating the shit out of you if I ever saw you in person wishing that on my son. If you think the only way to learn respect about someone else is to suffer, then you're sadly misguided, and incredibly stupid.



Honestly, this should have been the only thing you wrote in your post. I agree 100% with this. If you don't like the things I say or the way I act, don't watch my stream. Less people watching me = less money for me, meaning I either A) have to change the way I behave, or B) fade away from the public eye.



Negative impact on the community? I have the most viewer hours of any current SC2 streamer. You don't think that counts for anything?



Ah, that's why so many people watch me. I understand now.



ITT: someone wishing that someone else's child gets bullied in high school, then calling that person ignorant because he uses bad words on the internet.



Educational...I lol'd.

On May 02 2012 01:10 Nokshalees wrote:



He's irrelevant anyway.

On May 02 2012 00:37 ETisME wrote:

Such comment makes me feel sad about SC2 community as a whole.

Dude, you don't get why he is funny. Ok, that's fine but apparently, 4k+ people find him entertaining. You don't? Then good/sorry for you, We don't care.
Saying "mature SC2" players have no care or interest in him is simply self centered. Mature people cannot have a different sense of humor now?
"let a pornstar mooch off him"? Be more personal attack please.

Do you see PROFESSIONAL athletes showing their training/daily life as often as streamers?

The attention that you don't think he deserves but still get is exactly what is proving how wrong you are, the "mature" one