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On May 01 2012 11:05 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 11:00 RowdierBob wrote:
I'm a tad surprised how easily the Heat are making it look vs the Knicks.
I'm not. I predicted a sweep, and don't think any of the games would be close. Knicks losing by 10, even with Miami letting them score late is an achievement. They really are that outmatched.
I dunno, I think the Knicks will have one big game in them at MSG. If they can win game 3, game 4 will be huge.
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Amar'e hand heavily taped with arm in a sling. Can't imagine he plays again
WTF
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Well, what a way to take out your anger on a wall.
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On May 01 2012 11:35 RowdierBob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 11:05 Ace wrote:On May 01 2012 11:00 RowdierBob wrote:
I'm a tad surprised how easily the Heat are making it look vs the Knicks.
I'm not. I predicted a sweep, and don't think any of the games would be close. Knicks losing by 10, even with Miami letting them score late is an achievement. They really are that outmatched. I dunno, I think the Knicks will have one big game in them at MSG. If they can win game 3, game 4 will be huge.
They'll be lucky to win one game with that defense, or lack thereof...
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On May 01 2012 11:30 GoShox wrote:There's apparently blood all over the carpet in the locker room, the Knicks won't even let anyone in. Source: https://twitter.com/#!/FisolaNYDN
Wow, that's a tough. It happens a lot in baseball where a pitcher will break something being mad at himself. Talk radio will probably tear him apart tomorrow - but people get frustrated.
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On May 01 2012 11:35 RowdierBob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 11:05 Ace wrote:On May 01 2012 11:00 RowdierBob wrote:
I'm a tad surprised how easily the Heat are making it look vs the Knicks.
I'm not. I predicted a sweep, and don't think any of the games would be close. Knicks losing by 10, even with Miami letting them score late is an achievement. They really are that outmatched. I dunno, I think the Knicks will have one big game in them at MSG. If they can win game 3, game 4 will be huge.
Honestly it they take any of the games at MSG theyll have overperformed. Its to easy a matchup for the Heat..
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On May 01 2012 11:08 XaI)CyRiC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 07:42 MassHysteria wrote:On May 01 2012 06:25 XaI)CyRiC wrote:On May 01 2012 06:20 MassHysteria wrote:On May 01 2012 05:35 XaI)CyRiC wrote:On May 01 2012 04:27 Daozzt wrote:On May 01 2012 03:51 justinpal wrote:On May 01 2012 03:48 Daozzt wrote:On May 01 2012 03:37 XaI)CyRiC wrote:On May 01 2012 03:27 rei wrote:
how do you penalize flopping? review the foul call and if the reaction is exaggerated then call a technical foul on the guy flopping? They players would just adapt by taking some acting lessons and make it harder to tell. It would surely weed out the players who can't act. I don't think it would be unreasonable to penalize the more obvious flops either during games or through reviews after games. You're right that there would still be some borderline or difficult to determine situations, but that's true of a lot of calls made in the NBA right involving regular and technical fouls. Would there be some situations where players would still get away with flopping? Sure. Would there be some situations where a player would be penalized for flopping when they weren't actually flopping? Probably. However, I firmly believe that it'd be a net gain because players would at least have to think twice before flopping and we'd see a lot less flopping in general because most players are not going to be skilled enough to fool refs and post-game reviews. Right now, there is essentially no penalty for flopping. Imposing some penalty, such as a technical foul, fines, suspensions for repeat offenses, etc. would at least create the potential for a player costing himself or his team money or wins by flopping. I don't see any downside to it. Yep, there was a video where JVG went on a rant and came up with the same conclusion. The league has to review the tapes after the games, and hand out a T and a fine (probably 5-10k) to obvious floppers so they are actually discouraged to flop during the game. Let's give the NBA another way to pick favorite players and teams. Better than the disgusting flopping that commonly occurs in every game now. The thing is now they can't be blatantly biased because everyone has access to these video replays and they have time to analyze them, so there's more pressure on the NBA to actually make the right decisions. Agreed. Due to the ease of access to video footage of plays to everyone, and not just the NBA, would help keep the league in check with regards to any significant bias. Keep in mind that, in addition to fans, opposing teams' staffs will also serve to balance each other, i.e. if the league lets a Lebron flop slide due to bias, the opposing team will easily be able to submit video proof to contest. Teams already do it now as a form of protest and way to lobby to officials, so it'd be no different. Meh, I still think the best idea would be to make the officials a 3rd-party entity, outside of the NBA. Only then can bias really not be a question. By having officials having to report Stern and the NBA though, credibility can still be in question. How would that really change anything though? Stern and the NBA would still have the refs by their balls due to being their sole employer. I don't think being independent would give them any leverage, and they'd still "answer to" Stern and the NBA and have all the incentive in the world to keep them happy. So, then there is no solution is what you are saying? Because making them independent makes more sense in trying to fix the problem of officials managing with an agenda. I agree with all your points above, but that still doesn't address how keeping them as part of the NBA directly makes more sense? The problems you addressed would still be there, and that is why it depends largely on the system they implement once they decide to go this way. Making them a 3rd-party entity is not the end-all solution, it just makes the most sense when establishing credibility. Specially when you want people to stop saying how the refs affect the outcomes of games depending on who the NBA wants to win. Would the NBA still have the refs by the balls? Yes, but they wouldn't have to "answer to" Stern as much as they have to answer to the general public. Stern would have no direct control over the referees, but rather have to work with the chosen representatives at a more transparent level. The NBA would still be their sole employer but why do union employees form a union in the first place? A lot of the same reasons would still apply here even though we aren't talking about a union(I know it's different in the sense that unions are primarily to take care of the employees' rights, yet in this case it is mainly for the integrity of the game, but you catch my drift). If the NBA wants to "fire" these officials, you can bet they would have a major media shit-storm as to why and who they would use to replace them. The officials wouldn't have leverage, but they would definitely have more to work with than they do now. There would still be a lot of stuff to fix still obviously, I just like the idea of it so far compared to other solutions being thrown out. edit: lol @ the Rose playoff jersey! Solution to what? Referee bias? The NBA controlling games via refs to forward their designs? I'm not sure what making the referees an independent body is supposed to be solving. I thought we were talking about finding a way to get rid of flopping, and complaining about how the current NBA rules and reffing have deterred actual defense in lieu of taking charges and flopping. Sure, the refs becoming an independent group might make some difference, but I don't think it'd be significant or solve any of the problems we've been talking about.
Yes, I was referring to your post about referee bias. Flopping is just a product of the rules, I thought that was pretty straightforward in my mind so I didn't address it I guess.
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Lol, looks like Amar'e broke his arm punching a locker!
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On May 01 2012 11:49 scaban84 wrote:
Lol, looks like Amar'e broke his arm punching a locker!
The tweet said it was a fire extinguisher.
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What a dummy.
For a man who can't get insurance on his knees, he should be taking care of himself.
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Stoudemire is stupid! wtf
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On May 01 2012 11:34 Zorkmid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 11:17 Vindicare605 wrote:On May 01 2012 10:19 Ace wrote:On May 01 2012 10:14 Bonzinator wrote:On May 01 2012 10:05 Ace wrote:On May 01 2012 09:59 Bonzinator wrote:On May 01 2012 09:51 Ace wrote:On May 01 2012 09:45 Bonzinator wrote:On May 01 2012 09:44 Ace wrote:
Melo is not even a great scorer. Don't know why people keep harping on that shit. That's not even decent trolling lol... um...he isn't. Melo isn't even close to the Durant/Lebron/Wade level of scoring output. All have around the same ppg in their respective careers. I dunno, Melo to me is flat out sick scorer. Have you looked at their FG% and individual scoring seasons? Melo is no where near their level. When you add in playoffs and the defenses faced Melo just gets obliterated. He's literally not even in the conversation. Durant and Melo are more shooters then drivers as Wade and Lebron are, so normaly % wise they will be less efficientBut i don't really judge scorers by their playoff performances. You have to be a winner in playoffs, not only scorer. But ultimately it will come to comparing wins and performances in palyoffs. Only Wade with a ring from that bunch atm.. Which is why Melo isn't in the conversation. Every top tier scorer in NBA history loads up in the paint or rim attacks. Every single one. I don't know if I would consider Kareem's play in his later years as "loading up in the paint" he could hit with the skyhook from almost anywhere on the court. Same goes for MJ
MJ is actually an even better example.
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On May 01 2012 11:30 GoShox wrote:There's apparently blood all over the carpet in the locker room, the Knicks won't even let anyone in. Source: https://twitter.com/#!/FisolaNYDN
Yikes, well at least Amare is passionate about the game, though punching fire extinguishers isn't going to solve the problem =/
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well amare hasn't been playing up to his former level this past year and i'm sure it's been frustrating for him. probably releasing his built up anger. don't think it was just this game either. plus his brother dying...
i hope people go easy on him.
i don't think people understand how hard it is to have your brother die during the midst of a season where you weren't playing well/was injured half of the time.
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On May 01 2012 12:14 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 11:34 Zorkmid wrote:On May 01 2012 11:17 Vindicare605 wrote:On May 01 2012 10:19 Ace wrote:On May 01 2012 10:14 Bonzinator wrote:On May 01 2012 10:05 Ace wrote:On May 01 2012 09:59 Bonzinator wrote:On May 01 2012 09:51 Ace wrote:On May 01 2012 09:45 Bonzinator wrote:On May 01 2012 09:44 Ace wrote:
Melo is not even a great scorer. Don't know why people keep harping on that shit. That's not even decent trolling lol... um...he isn't. Melo isn't even close to the Durant/Lebron/Wade level of scoring output. All have around the same ppg in their respective careers. I dunno, Melo to me is flat out sick scorer. Have you looked at their FG% and individual scoring seasons? Melo is no where near their level. When you add in playoffs and the defenses faced Melo just gets obliterated. He's literally not even in the conversation. Durant and Melo are more shooters then drivers as Wade and Lebron are, so normaly % wise they will be less efficientBut i don't really judge scorers by their playoff performances. You have to be a winner in playoffs, not only scorer. But ultimately it will come to comparing wins and performances in palyoffs. Only Wade with a ring from that bunch atm.. Which is why Melo isn't in the conversation. Every top tier scorer in NBA history loads up in the paint or rim attacks. Every single one. I don't know if I would consider Kareem's play in his later years as "loading up in the paint" he could hit with the skyhook from almost anywhere on the court. Same goes for MJ MJ is actually an even better example.
I have no clue what you guys are talking about. MJ was all about scoring in the post, if you really want to nitpick he was maybe 2 or 3 feet out of the paint most of the time, I think Ace's point stands.
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Man, I'm loving this series! :D
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Argh, OKC's offence gets so ugly at times when it devolves into Durant/Westbrook isos. They really need to bring the other guys on the floor into the game.
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OKC get into the weirdest offensive funks.
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EPT
