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Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
June 04 2012 16:53 GMT
#4101
On June 04 2012 16:24 Aerisky wrote:
Just curious: have there ever been statistics released regarding the winrate of teams at home (in general season and in playoffs I suppose)? I'm actually sort of interested in exactly how much of an advantage being at home gives. There's psychological/refereeing advantage I suppose, but I sometimes wonder just how much of an edge being at home gives.


Basketball Reference dot com, probably.

Wages of Wins also noted that Denver and Utah have the biggest home advantage, calculated to be about 4 wins a season above the league average, probably due to the atmosphere. Golden State, LA, Houston the lowest.

http://arturogalletti.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/the-unfair-advantage/

He adds the caveat though that homecourt advantage loses significance in the playoffs. Strange, that. I hypothesize that the number of 1 and 2 seeds sweeping through and winning away games against 7 and 8 seeds may skew the numbers though.

In the playoffs, note that the better team probably plays more home games since they earned it in the regular season.

If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 17:33:58
June 04 2012 17:21 GMT
#4102
Grantland did an analysis on yesterday's final play, explaining the play wasn't really meant to be an iso for Wade. Wade did not end up getting the right angle he needed to make the pass to Chalmers and was forced to go with option B according to them.(Grantland)

Pretty good, and it is right on par with an interview I heard of Rick Carlisle a few weeks back (forgot if it was on Dan Patrick or Colin(eww)) about how the Mavs did extensive research on game-ending 3-point plays in the NBA. The team on offense running the play hardly ever gets the look they really want at the end. He had some good stats but I don't want to guess so maybe I'll try to find a link or the actual numbers they got from their research in a bit.

edit: Mavs research was only on possessions with a certain amount of time left on the clock, so not sure if last nite's play even falls under that time but it was still interesting.
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
June 04 2012 17:36 GMT
#4103
Tonight's SAS-OKC game is going to be an interesting one. I wasn't able to watch game 4, but, from what I'm reading and the box score, it seems like the Spurs did a good job of limiting Westbrook (2 for 10, 3 TOs) and Harden (11 points on 14 attempts and 3 TOs) and the Thunder got some amazing scoring from Ibaka, Perkins and Collison (i.e. 22 for 25 from the field!). Feels like an outlier game to me, so I'm not sure how much can be taken from it other than the fact that the Spurs have no answer for Durant.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 04 2012 17:37 GMT
#4104
starleague forever
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 04 2012 18:05 GMT
#4105
Ah I see, that all makes sense thanks guys

3 game series for okc and sa, interesting to see who gets the first w. Hoping miami can pull through on their home games to make it 4-2 >< Dang I got really mad yesterday, though part of it was unwarranted.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
June 04 2012 18:57 GMT
#4106
I'm becoming a Mario Chalmers fan. Surpassing Trajan Langdon for title of Alaskan Assassin.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 04 2012 19:41 GMT
#4107
On June 05 2012 02:36 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Tonight's SAS-OKC game is going to be an interesting one. I wasn't able to watch game 4, but, from what I'm reading and the box score, it seems like the Spurs did a good job of limiting Westbrook (2 for 10, 3 TOs) and Harden (11 points on 14 attempts and 3 TOs) and the Thunder got some amazing scoring from Ibaka, Perkins and Collison (i.e. 22 for 25 from the field!). Feels like an outlier game to me, so I'm not sure how much can be taken from it other than the fact that the Spurs have no answer for Durant.

i dont think anybody has an answer for somebody that was that on fire
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
June 04 2012 20:42 GMT
#4108
On June 05 2012 04:41 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 02:36 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Tonight's SAS-OKC game is going to be an interesting one. I wasn't able to watch game 4, but, from what I'm reading and the box score, it seems like the Spurs did a good job of limiting Westbrook (2 for 10, 3 TOs) and Harden (11 points on 14 attempts and 3 TOs) and the Thunder got some amazing scoring from Ibaka, Perkins and Collison (i.e. 22 for 25 from the field!). Feels like an outlier game to me, so I'm not sure how much can be taken from it other than the fact that the Spurs have no answer for Durant.

i dont think anybody has an answer for somebody that was that on fire


From what I'm reading, it wasn't just that he was scoring at will, but Durant was also making good passes. If Durant ever becomes a great passer in addition to scorer, he's going be unguardable (see Nowitzki, Dirk).
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 04 2012 23:39 GMT
#4109
We saw pretty much the same game twice in a row in Oklahoma: They played about even in the first quarter and then the Spurs spotted OKC a 10-15 point lead in the second quarter. They aren't a big team and when the 2nd unit is on the floor, there's not a lot of playmaking ability outside of Ginobili. I think they should start Diaw again, who has been pretty damn good, and bring in Blair for defensive presence and energy (aka Nasty). Apart from Durant's flurry, the Spurs need to tell themselves that they ouplayed OKC in the second half and try to flip the tables once again.

I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
XoXiDe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 00:46:09
June 05 2012 00:27 GMT
#4110
Pumped for tonight, Craig Sager pimping the black and pink checkered suit tonight, hell yeah. go spurs!

ALSO PUMPED FOR THE DREAM TEAM flick.
TEXAN
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 05 2012 00:39 GMT
#4111
Alright, Spurs, we've got a date with destiny.

And it looks like she's ordered the lobster.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 05 2012 00:51 GMT
#4112
On June 05 2012 09:27 XoXiDe wrote:
Pumped for tonight, Craig Sager pimping the black and pink checkered suit tonight, hell yeah. go spurs!

ALSO PUMPED FOR THE DREAM TEAM flick.


Yeah, fuck that NBATV horseshit.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 05 2012 01:04 GMT
#4113
Refs starting the game well.....lol
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 05 2012 01:04 GMT
#4114
Bad fall call on Ibaka but even worse real foul on Ibaka.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
XoXiDe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States620 Posts
June 05 2012 01:05 GMT
#4115
haha Ginobili's tricks man.
TEXAN
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 05 2012 01:06 GMT
#4116
It amazes me just how much the home court advantage influences refs.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 05 2012 01:09 GMT
#4117
Thunder lucky SA not shooting well.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
June 05 2012 01:11 GMT
#4118
On June 05 2012 10:06 Telcontar wrote:
It amazes me just how much the home court advantage influences refs.


It's one of the few things I really hate about the NBA At least Kerr recognizes how bad it is.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 05 2012 01:12 GMT
#4119
SA playing too fast, OKC playing too slow.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
June 05 2012 01:13 GMT
#4120
this feels like golden state vs pheonix.
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