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ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
June 04 2012 05:12 GMT
#4081
3 shot is never a good shot. It is always below 50% given its contested to a degree. By shooting 3 you are likely to lose. Thanks for the low % giveaway, Wade.
NeMeSiS3, Portlandian, Reason,
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 04 2012 05:15 GMT
#4082
I'm fairly sure the Heat's win % would have been lower than Wade's open 3 had they gone into double overtime. It's pointless to speak in hypotheticals, however.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 04 2012 05:16 GMT
#4083
i didnt watch the game but even if wade went for the two, he couldve missed it with a lower chance and when they go OT2, they will PROBABLY still lose given lbj fouled out. just some assumptions i have no issue with wade taking the 3
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 04 2012 05:53 GMT
#4084
I think Spoelstra wanted to go for the three. I don't think he liked his chances with LBJ fouled out of the game already.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
June 04 2012 06:11 GMT
#4085
oh what? my celtics aint going down without a fight! anyone else listen to sean grande and cedric maxwell on weei?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
June 04 2012 07:17 GMT
#4086
Yeah I reckon the Heat wanted a three on that last play. Maybe they thought it was better for Wade to take a long 2/3 against Daniels than try barrel into the lane with the whole Celtic team collapsing on him.

Who knows?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 04 2012 07:24 GMT
#4087
Just curious: have there ever been statistics released regarding the winrate of teams at home (in general season and in playoffs I suppose)? I'm actually sort of interested in exactly how much of an advantage being at home gives. There's psychological/refereeing advantage I suppose, but I sometimes wonder just how much of an edge being at home gives.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 07:28:06
June 04 2012 07:26 GMT
#4088
On June 04 2012 16:17 RowdierBob wrote:
Yeah I reckon the Heat wanted a three on that last play. Maybe they thought it was better for Wade to take a long 2/3 against Daniels than try barrel into the lane with the whole Celtic team collapsing on him.

Who knows?


I think thats exactly what they had in mind. The minutes Wade had been playing another OT woudlve been brutal.

I dont see the huge fuss. The best driving into the lane wouldve gotten him wouldve been a kickout for a long jumper or a 3 I didnt fancy it and apparantly neither did Spo, ofcourse if a lane opens up sure but it didnt and it prob wouldnt have so he did the next best thing. He got a clear enough look after duping Daniels and he didnt make it. Gogo game 5
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
June 04 2012 07:29 GMT
#4089
On June 04 2012 16:24 Aerisky wrote:
Just curious: have there ever been statistics released regarding the winrate of teams at home (in general season and in playoffs I suppose)? I'm actually sort of interested in exactly how much of an advantage being at home gives. There's psychological/refereeing advantage I suppose, but I sometimes wonder just how much of an edge being at home gives.


Only 14 teams have came back from being down 2-0 in a seven game series. Home court is huge if you win those first two
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 04 2012 07:38 GMT
#4090
Hmm I see, yeah I guess that's the most directly relevant statistic with regard to the current state of the series. I am a bit curious about the overall percentage though
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
June 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#4091
The rest of this series hinges on Chris Bosh. There's no way he sits out game 5 now.

Activated for game 5.

I think it would be better to see the %'s after it's tied at 2-2. It's just a best of three now, but all Miami has to do still is win at home. It's a must win for Miami on Tuesday.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
June 04 2012 12:38 GMT
#4092
Haha he sounds like a robot.

ACTIVATE ZEE BOSHBOT!
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 14:14:27
June 04 2012 14:14 GMT
#4093
As a French it was quite funny to see Pietrus get that foul on Lebron. I'm almost certain it wasn't even a flop, Pietrus just has the worst footwork in the game. He consistently falls to the ground when he drives, even when there's no one around. It's usually frustrating to see this naturally gifted guy be so bad at simple things but for once it paid off ^^

Frankly, Miami seems better though, and while they could get unlucky and lose they probably won't. Boston shot really well, Miami didn't, and they still could've lost on a very good look by Wade. Miami isn't particularly dominating against Boston's starters but Boston's bench is just too bad to keep up in the long run.
ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
June 04 2012 14:57 GMT
#4094
On June 04 2012 14:15 Aerisky wrote:
I'm fairly sure the Heat's win % would have been lower than Wade's open 3 had they gone into double overtime. It's pointless to speak in hypotheticals, however.


Maybe you should look up Wades 3 point%, if you think younger Heat team is 26% vs Cs in 2nd OT they probably have no business trying.
NeMeSiS3, Portlandian, Reason,
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 15:17:45
June 04 2012 15:12 GMT
#4095
On June 04 2012 23:57 ecstatica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 14:15 Aerisky wrote:
I'm fairly sure the Heat's win % would have been lower than Wade's open 3 had they gone into double overtime. It's pointless to speak in hypotheticals, however.


Maybe you should look up Wades 3 point%, if you think younger Heat team is 26% vs Cs in 2nd OT they probably have no business trying.


He got a good look, the kind of shot he's going to make at least 33%(and that's being very conservative). Either that, or go for a 2 that he could maybe get at 50%, for a second overtime without Lebron... sorry, I'm going to go with Wade on that one. He just got unlucky.

His 3 point percentage is low because he takes some questionnable 3s. Not to mention you're looking at a very limited number of shots in the playoffs (24), that is affected by shots taken at end of quarters or of a possession (and it's still 30% by the way). No guard averages 26% at that spot for an open look. Hell, I shoot better than that.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 04 2012 15:34 GMT
#4096
WOOOOOWWW, I couldn't believe last game. So bad play, thank goodness the heat come home. But Heat fans suck, they dont know how to motivate.
Life?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 04 2012 15:39 GMT
#4097
celtics have found their stride, esp rondo and allen

the question is if they can bring it in miami
starleague forever
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 04 2012 15:44 GMT
#4098
Wade is too manly to let the ref decide the game by jumping into the beaten celtic in that play who launched himself in mid air trying to block a pump fake. A man among man!
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
June 04 2012 16:39 GMT
#4099
On June 05 2012 00:12 MilesTeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 23:57 ecstatica wrote:
On June 04 2012 14:15 Aerisky wrote:
I'm fairly sure the Heat's win % would have been lower than Wade's open 3 had they gone into double overtime. It's pointless to speak in hypotheticals, however.


Maybe you should look up Wades 3 point%, if you think younger Heat team is 26% vs Cs in 2nd OT they probably have no business trying.


He got a good look, the kind of shot he's going to make at least 33%(and that's being very conservative). Either that, or go for a 2 that he could maybe get at 50%, for a second overtime without Lebron... sorry, I'm going to go with Wade on that one. He just got unlucky.

His 3 point percentage is low because he takes some questionnable 3s. Not to mention you're looking at a very limited number of shots in the playoffs (24), that is affected by shots taken at end of quarters or of a possession (and it's still 30% by the way). No guard averages 26% at that spot for an open look. Hell, I shoot better than that.


This isnt an open look, he had to sidestep and shoot in motion, not that easy for someone with subpar ability to score from that range. His career and season averages are below 0.260 I believe, thus it isnt unlucky, its expected he misses.

On June 05 2012 00:44 rei wrote:
Wade is too manly to let the ref decide the game by jumping into the beaten celtic in that play who launched himself in mid air trying to block a pump fake. A man among man!


Supposedly 'the new rule' states that you dont get a foul anymore if you jump into a defender. Not that its enforced with any consistency, but still.
NeMeSiS3, Portlandian, Reason,
ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
June 04 2012 16:41 GMT
#4100
On June 04 2012 15:11 WniO wrote:
oh what? my celtics aint going down without a fight! anyone else listen to sean grande and cedric maxwell on weei?


Best live commentary I ever heard by far. I hope these guys move on to do live TV. Sometimes its better than watching.
NeMeSiS3, Portlandian, Reason,
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