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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
April 21 2012 02:16 GMT
#41
On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:
IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross

i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example:
"Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단

69/15 82.14%
-------
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/

maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59%

btw. I'm form SC2 forum

No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that.


Forgg and Hyun are not good representations of the BW skillset.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 21 2012 02:17 GMT
#42
On April 21 2012 11:16 Caladbolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:
IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross

i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example:
"Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단

69/15 82.14%
-------
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/

maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59%

btw. I'm form SC2 forum

No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that.


Forgg and Hyun are not good representations of the BW skillset.

And sc2 isn't a good representation of the BW skillset....
Squash1
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada11 Posts
April 21 2012 02:21 GMT
#43
Sad to hear about Bisu, but Leta! Leta! Stay Terran!
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
April 21 2012 02:22 GMT
#44
On April 21 2012 11:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:16 Caladbolg wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:
IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross

i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example:
"Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단

69/15 82.14%
-------
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/

maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59%

btw. I'm form SC2 forum

No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that.


Forgg and Hyun are not good representations of the BW skillset.

And sc2 isn't a good representation of the BW skillset....


Sc2 isn't a direct representation. Lemme quote you a bit.

"To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities."

That's a conclusion of law (sorry, lawyer). Now, let's look at your basis for saying this.

" That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that."

And I simply said: No. Your conclusion is not supported by your facts. The fact that BW coaches have said their players have reached GM, and that one (Horang2) has an obnoxious winrate... well at least that's testimonial support for the position that BW players can play SC2 at a high level without a whole lot of practice time (at least, not equivalent to the current SC2 pros when they first joined the SC2 scene).


"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
April 21 2012 02:27 GMT
#45
BraQ is marineking
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 21 2012 02:27 GMT
#46
Bisu as Terran, im not surprised seeing as SC2 Protoss doesnt benefit from multitasking much at all atm...
Jaedong & Faker
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 02:32:07
April 21 2012 02:28 GMT
#47
On April 21 2012 11:22 Caladbolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:16 Caladbolg wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:
IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross

i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example:
"Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단

69/15 82.14%
-------
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/

maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59%

btw. I'm form SC2 forum

No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that.


Forgg and Hyun are not good representations of the BW skillset.

And sc2 isn't a good representation of the BW skillset....


Sc2 isn't a direct representation. Lemme quote you a bit.

"To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities."

That's a conclusion of law (sorry, lawyer). Now, let's look at your basis for saying this.

" That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that."

And I simply said: No. Your conclusion is not supported by your facts. The fact that BW coaches have said their players have reached GM, and that one (Horang2) has an obnoxious winrate... well at least that's testimonial support for the position that BW players can play SC2 at a high level without a whole lot of practice time (at least, not equivalent to the current SC2 pros when they first joined the SC2 scene).



? Rofl nothing in this thread is supported by facts, it's just all best guessing. Can you actually prove that that player is horang? The account that the other guy mentioned has thousands of games played since season 1. I doubt horang was playing that much since then. And I don't doubt they probably could reach GM, but 70-80% winrate? Nah. In fact, the best evidence all leads to pointing that the smurf accounts aren't BW pros but regular SC2 pros on smurfs (the players stream themselves playing on those accounts).
Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 02:31:47
April 21 2012 02:30 GMT
#48
you guys should remember - ladder SC2 =/= GSL games !

but get 80% in GM it's not easy!
hello
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 02:36:15
April 21 2012 02:34 GMT
#49
On April 21 2012 11:27 IMNasty wrote:
BraQ is marineking


Thanks!

On April 21 2012 11:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:22 Caladbolg wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:16 Caladbolg wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:
IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross

i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example:
"Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단

69/15 82.14%
-------
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/

maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59%

btw. I'm form SC2 forum

No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that.


Forgg and Hyun are not good representations of the BW skillset.

And sc2 isn't a good representation of the BW skillset....


Sc2 isn't a direct representation. Lemme quote you a bit.

"To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities."

That's a conclusion of law (sorry, lawyer). Now, let's look at your basis for saying this.

" That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that."

And I simply said: No. Your conclusion is not supported by your facts. The fact that BW coaches have said their players have reached GM, and that one (Horang2) has an obnoxious winrate... well at least that's testimonial support for the position that BW players can play SC2 at a high level without a whole lot of practice time (at least, not equivalent to the current SC2 pros when they first joined the SC2 scene).



? Rofl nothing in this thread is supported by facts, it's just all best guessing. Can you actually prove that that player is horang? And I don't doubt they probably could reach GM, but 70-80% winrate? Nah. In fact, the best evidence all leads to pointing that the smurf accounts aren't BW pros but regular SC2 pros on smurfs (the players stream themselves playing on those accounts).


No, it's FACT that the BW coaches SAID things. As far as BW pros are concerned, that's the evidence available. Now you come here and mouth off that BW pros can't possibly reach MKP level (on the ladder) without equivalent playing time... and I call bullshit on that. You have no proof whatsoever, just your perception that somehow Sc2 ladder is sacred ground. That SC2 streamers play on barcode accounts. What kind of proof is that? Negative proof? That's extremely weak to come up with conclusions of fact. Remember, the main argument we're having is that "BW pros can or cannot get to 70-80% on GM KR Ladder." And on that account, I have the interview to support my conclusion that they can. And you have... nothing.

And I agree with the above post. SC2 ladder =/= GSL. GSL is definitely the peak of SC2 play right now. However, many of the current GSL superstars (DRG especially, cause I followed him while he was failing in Code B) were born from sick ladder results/play.

"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 21 2012 02:37 GMT
#50
Wait, can someone confirm the source of the Horang2 in GM and Fantasy as Zerg rumors? The guy who first posted that info in the other thread seemed to have deleted his post (though it still exists as quotes later on in the thread), and if they're false rumors, then I feel bad for kinda spreading them.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 21 2012 02:40 GMT
#51
On April 21 2012 10:59 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 10:51 figq wrote:
He's mentioned his terran preference in SC2 before, I think around Blizzcon. And he wasn't the only one, seems likely that several top BW pro's would switch to terran in SC2.

No. He most certainly has never stated any preference for Terran. His words were that it was a Terran dominated world, and that Protoss was far too weak, and that if you were going to make the race that shitty, why include it at all? He wished that Blizzard would work on the balance better, and that if he had to switch, he would play Protoss. Now that Protoss has been showing quite remarkable results, I don't think he's going to have as much of a problem with staying P.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=276676
Didn't word that right, but he certainly was considering Terran since then, as he also indicates he is thinking about it in this OP. This doesn't come now as a surprise, that was my point.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
April 21 2012 02:41 GMT
#52
I would love to see Bisu as terran. With his multitasking skills he would own!
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 21 2012 02:44 GMT
#53
On April 21 2012 11:41 Sanguinarius wrote:
I would love to see Bisu as terran. With his multitasking skills he would own!


Yup, would be kinda boring to watch him play protoss, seeing as protoss has the worst game design by far in SC2, Terran is actually kinda good in SC2 in terms of design and variety of play etc (except for mech in TvP), Zerg is decent it still needs alot of work tbh and Protoss needs a redesign completely.
Jaedong & Faker
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
April 21 2012 02:44 GMT
#54
btw lol @ Rock saying he wants to switch. SC2 Toss sucks when you can't 2-base carrier, eh?
Writer:o
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 02:45:28
April 21 2012 02:45 GMT
#55
On April 21 2012 11:41 Sanguinarius wrote:
I would love to see Bisu as terran. With his multitasking skills he would own!

Well, SC2 already sorta has its own Terran Bisu in the form of MMA.

The similarities are striking. Both are playing on Boxer's teams. Both are immaculate vs Zerg. Both are not as immaculate in their other two matchups.

It would be funny if Bisu's TvP in SC2 sucks, just like MMA's TvP.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 21 2012 02:45 GMT
#56
On April 21 2012 11:41 Sanguinarius wrote:
I would love to see Bisu as terran.

I would too actually, it would make him crying about the maps even more amusing.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
April 21 2012 02:47 GMT
#57
Maan! I'm getting nerd chills when ever I read something like BW pros transitioning to SC2 or any other related news like this. It is really exciting to see if they will dominate or the SC2 Pros will keep them on check. Also will BW Pro's innovate the meta game like army composition that we have never seen before. So Excited \m/ ;D
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
April 21 2012 02:47 GMT
#58
The |||||||||||||||||| aren't bw pros, they're just accounts for team members so they don't get sniped and people can't prepare for them by looking at their match history if they ladder or custom. I know startale, nshoseo, prime members do this. More too probably.
GuMiho <3
r3z3nd3
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil522 Posts
April 21 2012 02:48 GMT
#59
FYI, the name of the game is StarCraft. There is not a game called StarCraft 1.

This news don't make a little bit excited. I really want to know what would be the definite decision about ProLeague format and schedule.
Born to fast expand
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
April 21 2012 02:51 GMT
#60
Marie's GM?

Nice for her!
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