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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 21 2012 01:45 GMT
#21
Well, i hear Hoejja saying Protoss imba and then Bisu...
I have absolutely on clue on competitive SC2 so i can't really comment except that Bisu probably wants to use
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 01:46:48
April 21 2012 01:45 GMT
#22
On April 21 2012 10:41 Chef wrote:
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On April 21 2012 10:39 deathgod6 wrote:
On April 21 2012 10:27 MCDayC wrote:
Players switching races due to imbalance is really idiotic (if that is actually true), considering it changes so often, a couple of months ago Toss was by far the weakest race, whereas now they are doing great, if someone wants to be in Starcraft 2 for a long time they shouldn't pick their races for the next few years based off of monthly gestimates of balance.

People have already been switching races. If someone feels one race is stronger than another, why would they not play it? Incontrol switched to protoss for SC2, Morrow has been known for race switching, Artosis switched to protoss after playing zerg in the beginning of SC2, etc. They are not looking at stats and determining their race by that, they are deciding by how how they feel when playing and possibly with some advice from professional SC2 friends.

Artosis switching his race was one of the saddest things I ever witnessed. 12 years of Terran patriotism down the drain.

It's because of the marauder.
He said that playing as terran with the marauder went against everything he did as a terran for the last 12 years and that he can't stand it so that's why he switched.
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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
April 21 2012 01:45 GMT
#23
On April 21 2012 10:41 Harem wrote:
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On April 21 2012 10:25 GGQ wrote:
Noooo Bisu you must be Protoss! My mind can't even figure out what I would do if Bisu played a different race. It'd just be wrong.

You know that Bisu was originally Terran in BW right?

(so was Best)


Yup but that was before I knew he existed so it doesn't count.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10230 Posts
April 21 2012 01:46 GMT
#24
if baby stays terran, and bisu plays terran, there will be 832109301293 drops going off everywhere on the map that the commentators computers will spontaneously combust.

FlaSh to protoss? Gotta have that ez macro xD
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
April 21 2012 01:47 GMT
#25
On April 21 2012 10:39 deathgod6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 10:27 MCDayC wrote:
Players switching races due to imbalance is really idiotic (if that is actually true), considering it changes so often, a couple of months ago Toss was by far the weakest race, whereas now they are doing great, if someone wants to be in Starcraft 2 for a long time they shouldn't pick their races for the next few years based off of monthly gestimates of balance.

People have already been switching races. If someone feels one race is stronger than another, why would they not play it? Incontrol switched to protoss for SC2, Morrow has been known for race switching, Artosis switched to protoss after playing zerg in the beginning of SC2, Idra went from being terran in BW to zerg in SC2, etc. They are not looking at stats and determining their race by that, they are deciding by how they feel when playing and possibly with some advice from professional SC2 friends.

Yeah, but when you use "imbalance" as an excuse like Hoejja, Piano, Juni and great do, it doesn't make sense. If you say something like it fits their playstyle better (like how a lot of Protosses switched to Terran as it's more drop-based) or how they want to try something new then that would be a better excuse.

Imbalance is not really a good excuse as balance changes with the metagame.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
April 21 2012 01:49 GMT
#26
For the love of God, stop posting SC2 things in the BW forum. This definitely belongs in the SC2 forum even if it relates to an active BW player.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 21 2012 01:51 GMT
#27
He's mentioned his terran preference in SC2 before, I think around Blizzcon. And he wasn't the only one, seems likely that several top BW pro's would switch to terran in SC2.
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danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
April 21 2012 01:51 GMT
#28
On April 21 2012 10:26 Fanek wrote:
Bisu terran, Flash protoss .... i don't get it -_-


As long as you leave my JD as Zerg, i'll be fine ^^
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Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Peru145 Posts
April 21 2012 01:54 GMT
#29
I am seriously depressed to see this.
Man... It's for the good of ESPORTS but is it really worth it? It seems they are actually making pros play SC2, they are only employees after all and their careers are in danger...

It's really sad.

SC2 fans rejoice. I will hug my BW CD D:
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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 01:59:36
April 21 2012 01:59 GMT
#30
On April 21 2012 10:51 figq wrote:
He's mentioned his terran preference in SC2 before, I think around Blizzcon. And he wasn't the only one, seems likely that several top BW pro's would switch to terran in SC2.

No. He most certainly has never stated any preference for Terran. His words were that it was a Terran dominated world, and that Protoss was far too weak, and that if you were going to make the race that shitty, why include it at all? He wished that Blizzard would work on the balance better, and that if he had to switch, he would play Protoss. Now that Protoss has been showing quite remarkable results, I don't think he's going to have as much of a problem with staying P.

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seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
April 21 2012 02:00 GMT
#31
No!! Bisu needs to stay toss. I can just imagine him and Stork making carriers relevant!
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51496 Posts
April 21 2012 02:01 GMT
#32
I am certain most of the IllIllIlIlII accounts on KR are the BW pros.
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 02:07:14
April 21 2012 02:02 GMT
#33
On April 21 2012 11:01 GTR wrote:
I am certain most of the IllIllIlIlII accounts on KR are the BW pros.


I have a feeling as well. They have ridiculous winrates with quite a lot of games played. Although I do remember someone in the SC2 forums saying that many of those are MarineKing's smurfs.

Winrates for those guys:

GM

70%
66%
66%
78%
65%
75%
58%
76%
67%
71%
57%
60%
57%
66%
61%
65%
61%
68%
54%
55%
66%
71%
48% (lol)
70%
71%
56%
62%
50%
84% (Terran = Flash?)
75%
50%
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Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 02:09:31
April 21 2012 02:06 GMT
#34
IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross

i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example:
"Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단

69/15 82.14%
-------
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/

maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59%

btw. I'm form SC2 forum
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DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
April 21 2012 02:07 GMT
#35
On April 21 2012 11:01 GTR wrote:
I am certain most of the IllIllIlIlII accounts on KR are the BW pros.


that's very likely!

but note that there are also very many SlayerS players who use such accounts (saw it on their streams),
and DRG
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 02:08:54
April 21 2012 02:08 GMT
#36
I would be okay with it, at least until HOTS Terran in sc2 has a higher skillcap and is part of the most enjoyable match up to watch, being TvZ.

If Protoss is cool in HOTS he should switch back though ^^ the oracle in the hands of bisu...hm
iYiYi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
April 21 2012 02:09 GMT
#37
On April 21 2012 11:02 Caladbolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:01 GTR wrote:
I am certain most of the IllIllIlIlII accounts on KR are the BW pros.


I have a feeling as well. They have ridiculous winrates with quite a lot of games played. Although I do remember someone in the SC2 forums saying that many of those are MarineKing's smurfs.

Winrates for those guys:

GM

70%
66%
66%
78%
65%
75%
58%
76%
67%
71%
57%
60%
57%
66%
61%
65%
61%
68%
54%
55%
66%
71%
48% (lol)
70%
71%
56%
62%
50%
84% (Terran = Flash?)
75%
50%

I watch a ton of SC2 korean streamers, and most of them have at least one account with a barcode name. I am sure there are a few BW players in there but I would argue most of them aren't. At the moment at least.
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
April 21 2012 02:13 GMT
#38
On April 21 2012 10:43 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 10:41 Harem wrote:
On April 21 2012 10:25 GGQ wrote:
Noooo Bisu you must be Protoss! My mind can't even figure out what I would do if Bisu played a different race. It'd just be wrong.

You know that Bisu was originally Terran in BW right?

(so was Best)

So was Stork. But they all found their true (and far superior) calling.

Once you go Aiur, you can't go back.


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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 21 2012 02:13 GMT
#39
When you look at the win percentages of each rate in SC2 its not a surprise that the BW pros would consider switching to Terran or Protoss simply because Zerg hasn't been showing any results lately other than a select few players and even then, its mostly T or P winning everything.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 21 2012 02:15 GMT
#40
On April 21 2012 11:06 Fanek wrote:
IllIllIlIlII - this is one of MKP account, also Puzzle and other Slayers players and other SC2 pross

i can bet pros BW using koreans nicknames, example:
"Horang2 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before" so he probably get GM also in season 7, so it could be this guy
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/869893/로켓단

69/15 82.14%
-------
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/217724/1/한니발/

maybe Flash - 71/11 86.59%

btw. I'm form SC2 forum

No, most likely not. And the last guy is hannibal, certainly not flash. To think that the top BW pros would be top of GM with 80% winrate playing only part time is way overestimating their abilities. That's close to MKP status. It took both forgg and hyun a lot longer to achieve anything even close to that.
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