Omar91 was just temp banned for 2 days by Ares[Effort].

That account was created on 2010-04-18 09:17:02 and had 353 posts.

Reason: Terrible thread

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September 20 2011 05:40 GMT

#18622

PrObeLife was just banned by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2011-09-13 22:01:29 and had 22 posts.

Reason: kk Bye! When you come back please don't whine about balance!

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September 20 2011 05:41 GMT

#18623

DJams was just temp banned for 2 days by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2011-05-06 04:58:45 and had 245 posts.

Reason: Stop stirring up the same old shit.

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September 20 2011 05:44 GMT

#18624

OscarN was just banned by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2011-07-03 04:21:45 and had 249 posts.

Reason: You're not working out here. Trolling BW vs SC2, insulting respected members, and in general being a nuisance on our boards. Goodbye.

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September 20 2011 06:03 GMT

#18625

edjay was just banned by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2011-09-20 12:48:22 and had 1 posts.

Reason:

On September 20 2011 12:57 edjay wrote:
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Sorry for my bad english, i'm a french stupid gay like you said and i **** you

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September 20 2011 06:12 GMT

#18626

Fiend13 was just temp banned for 2 days by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2010-09-07 21:25:28 and had 71 posts.

Reason: Arguing in SFW Funny Pics thread.

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September 20 2011 06:13 GMT

#18627

Ghostcom was just temp banned for 2 days by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2010-03-17 07:33:08 and had 1324 posts.

Reason: Arguing in SFW Funny Pics thread.

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September 20 2011 06:15 GMT

#18628

101toss was just temp banned for 2 days by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2010-04-26 06:36:52 and had 1510 posts.

Reason: Scumbag SFW Picture thread poster:

Says "Lets not argue its ban worthy"

Argues anyways.

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September 20 2011 06:17 GMT

#18629

PeaNuT_T was just temp banned for 2 days by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2010-10-30 07:36:30 and had 264 posts.

Reason: "Asshole"

nope.

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September 20 2011 06:24 GMT

#18630

f0rzaa was just banned by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2011-08-02 08:17:06 and had 59 posts.

Reason: You're a really bad poster.

On September 20 2011 11:52 f0rzaa wrote:

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Is there a rule where one must watch all games? idiot

Is just the icing on the cake considering you were posting in a winners' interview thread.

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September 20 2011 06:29 GMT

#18631

Xxavi was just temp banned for 2 days by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2010-10-03 14:22:52 and had 822 posts.

Reason: Player bashing.

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September 20 2011 06:33 GMT

#18632

Holophonist was just temp banned for 1 week by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2010-12-25 00:03:53 and had 76 posts.

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On September 20 2011 09:59 Holophonist wrote:

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On September 20 2011 09:49 Supamang wrote:

On September 20 2011 09:43 Holophonist wrote:

On September 20 2011 09:31 Supamang wrote:

On September 20 2011 08:29 Holophonist wrote:

On September 20 2011 08:24 Falling wrote:
Well only if you invest 1 billion into one enterprize alone. What's more realistic is it's much easier to lose $10M or $100M. But that's why being wealthy makes it easier to gain more wealth, you have deeper pockets, you can survive a failed business venture, ride out a bad economy and so on and so forth.

But if everything comes down to what is moral, I think the next question that would be reasonable is where does that morality come from? Is it absolute or relative and why should we follow it? Because moralness is a matter "You ought to... or ought not to..." So then given that we can choose to or not, what is our standard and what is our compulsion?

Yeah and it's also more realistic that you're only gonna make like $10k instead of $1m. Seriously dude? come on, this is a waste of time. Having money doesn't necessarily raise your EV when investing, it just changes the amounts, in BOTH columns.

Well, I personally believe that morality comes from God. But I don't expect other people to agree with me and I also don't expect our laws to directly come from the Bible. I'm a complete minimalist. I think the most moral thing to do is to stay out of people's lives as much as possible... from a government's standpoint.

I dont think that Morality and God have any place in this discussion. I cant believe youre arguing your case against progressive tax brackets using Morality as your support base. You say its immoral to take money from someone and give it to someone else. Isnt it also immoral to leave the needy to suffer and die even when it is within your power to help them? Correct me if im wrong, but doesnt Jesus advocate giving to those who need when they ask?

If there be among you a poor man of one of thy brethren within any of thy gates in thy land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thine heart, nor shut thine hand from thy poor brother

If you argue that it should be left to the individual to give his wealth away, why isnt it up to the individuals running the government to use their power to uphold the Morality of God? By taxing the rich more than taxing the poor, the ones running this country are actually being more Moral than those withholding their wealth from the poor. Right?

Basically, forget everything I said earlier and everything you have said about Morality. If you think that letting the rich improves our economy because it allows them to invest and expand businesses more rapidly or whatever other rational reason you have, go ahead and argue that. However, trying to bring in Morals to this discussion is pointless because Morality is subjective.

On September 20 2011 08:25 Holophonist wrote:
I'm not going to read through 40 pages of idiocy. Especially considering the fact that I've NEVER heard a good argument for it and I doubt I'm going to find it on a sc2 forum.

Oh and dont be that guy...Youre here having a meaningful discussion and youre gonna suggest that people on an SC2 forum cant possibly have the intelligence and/or knowledge to argue with you properly just because youre mad that people disagree with you? Ugh

I'l answer your last point first: STOP WASTING MY TIME WITH HYPERBOLE. I didn't say we can't possibly have the intelligence to figure this stuff out. What I actually said was I doubt I'd find it on a SC2 forum. I'd say 80% of what I've written here over the past couple hours is stuff like this. I have to explain myself when I really shouldn't.

The terrible inconsistency in your suggestion that the people in power are using their "power" to do what's right is that they're using other people's faculties/resources, not their own.

total. waste. of. time.

You completely ignored the core of my post LOL. I was saying that its a double standard for you to argue using morals as a base when the people you are defending are being immoral by not giving out their wealth. Basically, Im saying its useless to argue using morals as your support because there are so many standards for morality (even within God) that youre bound to look like a hypocrite

its not a "total.waste.of.time", but youre obviously only saying that because youre angry at not having a good argument against me. So you target my afterthought and argue against that for the majority of your post instead of the actual meat of my original argument. You also say that this thread is "40 pages of idiocy" and say that you wont find a good argument on an SC2 forum. How is that NOT suggesting that those on TL.net lack the intelligence to argue against you?

Lol, Im not the one slinging around inconsistency, you are.

I left it out because you answered it yourself. The quote you used said nothing about the government making your charitable contributions for you. Your quote... your whole post... is what doesn't have a place in this thread.

And the rich... particularly the rich in the US are among the most charitable people in the history of the planet.

And I said I "doubt" I'll find the answer on a sc2 forum. Because obviously the main reason people are here at all is because of sc2, not because they like to argue economics. It's possible, of course, but I have no reason to think so. again, you're an idiot and you're wasting my time.

I have enough smart people to respond to, I'm not gonna waste any more effort on you, or people like you. fuck off.

Next time you get the urge to post stuff like this, don't, or it will mean a perm ban.

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September 20 2011 06:36 GMT

#18633

hypnoxide was just banned by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2011-08-08 09:36:55 and had 230 posts.

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On September 20 2011 09:32 hypnoxide wrote:

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0 fucks.

Cya.

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September 20 2011 06:41 GMT

#18634

Arisen was just temp banned for 2 days by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2010-10-20 10:55:02 and had 1236 posts.

Reason: Balance whining/flaming in the patch notes thread.

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September 20 2011 07:25 GMT

#18635

Jayrod was just temp banned for 30 days by Nyovne.

That account was created on 2010-08-06 04:12:54 and had 1754 posts.

Reason: Talking about trash. Time to take it out, cya in a month for your last chance.

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September 20 2011 08:08 GMT

#18636

NationInArms was just temp banned for 1 week by heyoka.

That account was created on 2010-12-12 08:16:11 and had 411 posts.

Reason: By request.

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September 20 2011 09:17 GMT

#18637

bnY.Paradise was just banned by Nyovne.

That account was created on 2011-09-20 17:59:28 and had 0 posts.

Reason: Previously banned user.

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September 20 2011 09:23 GMT

#18638

TrollNoob was just banned by Nyovne.

That account was created on 2011-09-20 17:19:59 and had 1 posts.

Reason: Registering to make a generalising insulting comment? Unacceptable.

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September 20 2011 12:10 GMT

#18639

biteMe was just temp banned for 2 days by Nyovne.

That account was created on 2010-07-14 20:38:17 and had 67 posts.

Reason: Balance whining in tournament topic. Seriously...

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September 20 2011 12:12 GMT

#18640

Mioraka was just temp banned for 2 days by Nyovne.

That account was created on 2010-10-19 13:13:01 and had 951 posts.

Reason: Misery loves company it seems. Have fun in the balance whine corner.